Clever Email Virii

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ultimasimon

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9,646 posts

269 months

Wednesday 1st October 2003
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Just wondering if anyone else is getting these?

My main client has about 400 PC's and even though we have a good AV and a firewall which is embedded in our DSL router, we are still getting mails addressed from "Microsoft Net Client" and "Microsoft Support" and similar, etc.
If these are selected by a PC numpty from the view pane (and most at this place are!) they automaitically run a pop up with 'Install?' Yes / No. Once they run the install it basically lunches the PC. We have AVG A/V and it stops the virus from spreading and sticks in the virus vault but the damage is still done if the bozo presses the YES button. Doh!

My main questions are: How does the mail get delivered to us if the recipient's name is not on the list? and how can I stop this from happening, other than adding to the incoming mail servers blocklist every mail with a dodgy (Microsoft) title on it? I have added over 30 key words to the blocklist today and they ALL have Microsoft in there

Today I removed over 6,800 fake malicious emails from the server, which was running a little slow To make matters worse, most of the 'dying' machines are running 95 and 98 (yes, I know) the few new boxes running XP have not been affected after a virus has been caught and killed. The AV company says the problem is because Win 95 and 98 are not supported by MS so the security vulnerabilities are much worse - sounds about right, but I recently spent an hour last month getting my butt toasted, explaining why XP was still better than 95/98 in light of the Blaster Worm!

Any pointers greatly received - other than move the whole platform over to Linux (I am a Unix Sys Admin!)
Incedently their subsystem is all AS400 and uses software emulation called Bosonova, (hence Win 95) so if anyone here knows their stuff, I have plenty of work coming up.

Simon

haggishead

8,474 posts

263 months

Wednesday 1st October 2003
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this virus (it's called swen) is included in the latest virus definition files of the major AV providers. check your server's def files are up to date.

ErnestM

11,621 posts

278 months

Thursday 2nd October 2003
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You could just block all emails with Microsoft anywhere in them. The legit Microsoft mails are usually just "propaganda" anyway...

Also, if you are using an email filter system - do not have it send a NDR to the offending system. These return mails can tie up your outbound mail ques and slow your system down because they (the offending servers) are usually invalid...

If your client is using a Windows 2000 server based LAN - I highly recommend Symantec's Antivirus for networks. It allows you to control all AV clients from one console.

ErnestM

davidd

6,554 posts

295 months

Thursday 2nd October 2003
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I agree, unless you are a microsoft partner you are not going to get anything of use from MS. If you are a partner and are getting this spam, then create a new mailbox, change your MS profile to only send email to this mailbox (which is new and therefore won't be on any lists) then ban the word microsoft from everyone elses email.

Works for me.


D.

Have a look at
this stuff here.. for more detail.

>> Edited by davidd on Thursday 2nd October 08:19

ultimasimon

Original Poster:

9,646 posts

269 months

Thursday 2nd October 2003
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Thanks for your help guys, I have patched the system now and am having a result at last. I had another phonecall early this morning telling me another 6 boxes have gone down The new pacthes are available from microsoft here

These clever ba$tards really do my head in writing malicious code like that. If they put their skills to a productive use like writing anti-virus software we would all have better platforms with less bugs. All my under-contract work is taking up all my time and preventing me from earning any real money

Plotloss

67,280 posts

281 months

Thursday 2nd October 2003
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Whats the upcoming AS/400 work?

RobertUK

591 posts

273 months

Thursday 2nd October 2003
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Simon said:
"Any pointers greatly received - other than move the whole platform over to Linux (I am a Unix Sys Admin!) "

Why not introduce a Linux based firewall ?

So rather than move the whole (all workstations) to linux you just introduce one linux box to thwart the evil doers.

Check out www.smoothwall.org for one possible solution.

The beauty of linux is you can use a low-spec machine for this task !

The solution is very effective due to linux's built in security capabilities .



>> Edited by RobertUK on Thursday 2nd October 13:51

tuffer

8,893 posts

278 months

Thursday 2nd October 2003
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But a Smoothwall or pretty much any other Firewall will not prevent a Virus. (However if you do want a Firewall installing I'm your man). What you need is fully updated AV software and maybe some e-mail filtering software - which it sounds like you have. Do you have any IDS in place to see what else you have running around on the network?

www.get-tuf.com

haggishead

8,474 posts

263 months

Friday 3rd October 2003
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It's nothing to do with address blocking or spam filtering.

As I said at the start:

It's a virus.

Not on your computer, somebody else's.

Up to date AV software will catch it.

The IDS suggestion is a good one.