RE: Speed 6 Upgrades
Wednesday 1st October 2003

Speed 6 Upgrades

Options for existing owners from TVR Power


TVRs subsidiary in Coventry, TVR Power, are working on some upgrade kits for the Speed 6 range of engines as fitted to the Tamora, Cerbera, Tuscan and T350.

We expect them to announce several after market packages shortly. More details as soon as we have them.

Link : www.tvr-power.co.uk

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Swilly

Original Poster:

9,699 posts

302 months

Wednesday 1st October 2003
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Now you've gone and done it.

My wallet is gonna be the subject of a UN protection mandate soon.

simpo two

92,577 posts

293 months

Wednesday 1st October 2003
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Swilly said:
Now you've gone and done it.
My wallet is gonna be the subject of a UN protection mandate soon.


As someone else suggested, your car will then be faster if only becasue your wallet will be so much lighter!

nubbin

6,809 posts

306 months

Wednesday 1st October 2003
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Bibble, bibble, drool!!

Shit, wallet attack coming!

alt

1,879 posts

310 months

Wednesday 1st October 2003
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All I can see are V8 Upgrades???

Tivster

359 posts

278 months

Wednesday 1st October 2003
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Yes... note Teds words 'Coming Shortly...'

alt

1,879 posts

310 months

Wednesday 1st October 2003
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Ahhhh!

joospeed

4,473 posts

306 months

Wednesday 1st October 2003
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I've got some cerbie V8 upgrades coming thourhg hopefully in november, if successful they can be fitted to the sp6 engines too, but watch those warranties on sp6 engines if modified... tvr power work should be fine given their factory backed status. For older cars I'm looking at 20lbs torque extra through the range for under 1k pounds fitted, ie half the red rose increase for a quarter the cost.. tempting?

davidd

6,712 posts

312 months

Wednesday 1st October 2003
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joospeed said:
I've got some cerbie V8 upgrades coming thourhg hopefully in november, if successful they can be fitted to the sp6 engines too, but watch those warranties on sp6 engines if modified... tvr power work should be fine given their factory backed status. For older cars I'm looking at 20lbs torque extra through the range for under 1k pounds fitted, ie half the red rose increase for a quarter the cost.. tempting?


Yes very

beemer

378 posts

286 months

Wednesday 1st October 2003
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joospeed said:
I've got some cerbie V8 upgrades coming thourhg hopefully in november, if successful they can be fitted to the sp6 engines too, but watch those warranties on sp6 engines if modified... tvr power work should be fine given their factory backed status. For older cars I'm looking at 20lbs torque extra through the range for under 1k pounds fitted, ie half the red rose increase for a quarter the cost.. tempting?


Joolz

I take it I get a discount for being the guinea-pig, then (unless anyone else has signed up before me!!)

cheers
sean

VYT

585 posts

290 months

Wednesday 1st October 2003
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Joolz

4.2's as well?

joospeed

4,473 posts

306 months

Wednesday 1st October 2003
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beemer said:

joospeed said:
I've got some cerbie V8 upgrades coming thourhg hopefully in november, if successful they can be fitted to the sp6 engines too, but watch those warranties on sp6 engines if modified... tvr power work should be fine given their factory backed status. For older cars I'm looking at 20lbs torque extra through the range for under 1k pounds fitted, ie half the red rose increase for a quarter the cost.. tempting?



Joolz

I take it I get a discount for being the guinea-pig, then (unless anyone else has signed up before me!!)

cheers
sean


yep yours is the first car sean .. so don't give the game away will you? I'm giving my time for free on yours so it will be less than later, can't discount the parts cos they're fixed but the labour is free from me.

cacatous

3,173 posts

301 months

Wednesday 1st October 2003
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I remember Thames Valley Racetech saying that the Speed 6 is a closed box as far as mods were concerned?

PS. Can any more power be drawn from a Tuscan S?

nubbin

6,809 posts

306 months

Wednesday 1st October 2003
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joospeed said:
I've got some cerbie V8 upgrades coming thourhg hopefully in november, if successful they can be fitted to the sp6 engines too, but watch those warranties on sp6 engines if modified... tvr power work should be fine given their factory backed status. For older cars I'm looking at 20lbs torque extra through the range for under 1k pounds fitted, ie half the red rose increase for a quarter the cost.. tempting?


I might just treat myself to a slice of that at some point, Jools!!

tvrinbfg

1,460 posts

312 months

Wednesday 1st October 2003
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What's happening with Claire Lutti's engine upgrade. Her car at Zolder was really quick?

joospeed

4,473 posts

306 months

Thursday 2nd October 2003
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tvrinbfg said:
What's happening with Claire Lutti's engine upgrade. Her car at Zolder was really quick?


Don't know .. me and claire don't seem to speak after the SP6 valve clearance issue - pity , actually quite liked what she had to say, very clever but popular rumour at the mo is that there's no difference between any of the 4 litre SP6 engines and the power just comes from remapping the ECU .. time will tell. I know that when I had two SP6 engines in bits (one std and one RR) there's was no difference at all on anything I could measure (port sizes on the RR were actually 1mm smaller!! everything else the same to practical limits : valve sizes, cam lift and duration, compression etc) makes you wonder ... are all engines really 390ish bhp and then the ignition advance just wound back to reduce the power? Will get around to comparing the ignition advance curves on easimap one day.
can of worms .. opened

TUS 373

5,137 posts

309 months

Thursday 2nd October 2003
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Hi Joolz, looks like you may start and interesting debate. I have to say from my (business) perspective, that everything you say makes perfect sense. A small volume manufacturer (as TVR are) would be adding extra layers of complication to manage on their assembly lines by making engines that have different mechanical specifications - and stocking numerous permutations of components. We all know the finger followers debacle - so they must have little or no control over tracing batch parts. So how would they manage different types??? Easiest way to go is to up/down tune engines once assembled to give them the 350-400 bhp product spectrum they desire for marketing purposes.

And if I remember Joolz, once you said you dyno'd a standard SP6 unit and got 373 bhp rather than the 'expected' 360 bhp? I would not be surprised then if you are spot on with your hypothesis!

ro_butler

795 posts

299 months

Thursday 2nd October 2003
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I feel a set of tuning chips coming on

Quick question Joolz. Why has nobody developed a cheap aftermarket remappable ecu (or an addon)?

This is obviously reasonably easy as you can get one for most Jap cars (HKS FCON Pro V or equivalent) and they tend to cost for about £4-500. I know you can buy an emerald ECU but isn't this a lot more expensive?

If what you say about the sp6 is true then this sounds like a cheap way to get a power hike on a 350bhp T350 for example.

(TVR would be REAL unhappy about this tho )

joospeed

4,473 posts

306 months

Thursday 2nd October 2003
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ro_butler said:
I feel a set of tuning chips coming on

Quick question Joolz. Why has nobody developed a cheap aftermarket remappable ecu (or an addon)?


(TVR would be REAL unhappy about this tho )


you can ...

andyvdg

1,537 posts

311 months

Thursday 2nd October 2003
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Don't the Tuscan S's have a wider bore exhaust ? Would that have an effect on power output ?

cacatous

3,173 posts

301 months

Thursday 2nd October 2003
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Not very much I would imagine. 10hp at the most as a guess.