Re-Plaster or Polycell SmoothOver......
Re-Plaster or Polycell SmoothOver......
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Dupont666

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22,925 posts

222 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Anyone used it? (Polycell SmoothOver that is)

My walls and ceilings are for want of a better word, bodged and i want to fix them and make them smooth again.

Have thought about replastering them, but then I saw this:

http://www.diytools.co.uk/diy/Main/sp-2-4784-61001...

on an advert it looks easy. So is it any good and is it worth a go or should i just go for the re-plaster instead?

andyquantum

13,204 posts

234 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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I've used it to fill in small gaps, but wouldnt want to do a wall with it. My stairway needs skimming and I'd rather get a plasterer in (no radio) to do it than use the smoothover stuff

It's a bit like that Ronseal once over for ences. Adverts make it look easy, turns out it's not all that

Give it a go but dont expect miracles

Risotto

3,933 posts

242 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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I have to admit I haven't tried it but I doubt it would be much fun to apply. The difficult part of plastering is applying and smoothing - and you'd still have to do that regardless of whether you're applying plaster or 'Smoothover'.

I'm all for DIY, but with something like that, you could easily end up with a worse surface than you have already. At which point you either do endless sanding or end up paying a plasterer to fix it.

Beside which, it seems pretty pricey - depending on the size of the wall/ceiling, it may not cost that much more to get a plasterer to skim it.


Dupont666

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22,925 posts

222 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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How much do plasters cost to do a whole 2 bed flat?

How much plaster does it take to do a whole wall? There seems to be 5 litres of stuff in the smoothover stuff, would that be enough for a room?

Was thinking of doinging it myself simply down to the fact that i can just move the furniture out of the way rather than clear the whole room, which aint easy when actually living in the flat.

Simpo Two

92,888 posts

295 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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I'd recommend B&Q Lightweight Plaster (big bucket-thing). It's not actually plaster but is extremely easy to use, sticks well, dries quickly and sands easily too. Brilliant biggrin

krallicious

4,312 posts

235 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Dupont666 said:
Anyone used it? (Polycell SmoothOver that is)

My walls and ceilings are for want of a better word, bodged and i want to fix them and make them smooth again.

Have thought about replastering them, but then I saw this:

http://www.diytools.co.uk/diy/Main/sp-2-4784-61001...

on an advert it looks easy. So is it any good and is it worth a go or should i just go for the re-plaster instead?
Just plaster your flat the old fashioned way. I've been plastering a house for the last two days. Get on with it you lazy bugger.












Sorry needed to vent. If you can pay for it, go that route









VxDuncan

2,850 posts

264 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Tired it, to cover a small transition between different areas of plaster. Crap really. You just spread it over with the smoothing tool, and as with plaster it relies on you to spread it smoothly to get a decent finish. Sure you can sand it easily, but you can do that with plaster if you HAVE too. Just get it skimmed. Only advantage is you don't have to naff around with PVA'ing the wall before as with plaster, and the plaster soaking up all the paint when you come to paint it.

The Hypno-Toad

13,310 posts

235 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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From bitter, bitter experience do not use SmoothOver. frown


Dupont666

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22,925 posts

222 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Simpo Two said:
I'd recommend B&Q Lightweight Plaster (big bucket-thing). It's not actually plaster but is extremely easy to use, sticks well, dries quickly and sands easily too. Brilliant biggrin
whats B&Q Lightweight Plaster?

I cant find it on their site.

Is it easier than normal plastering?

Is it the same as smoothover?

robinhood21

31,157 posts

262 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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£33 for 5 litres! That's going to work out expensive.

Polycell said:
5 litres will cover up to 10m2 on a 1mm deep textured surface (average layer thickness 0.5mm)
I think it would not cost a lot more to employ a professional to do it - get a quote and weigh up the difference.

Dupont666

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22,925 posts

222 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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got time to spare and wouldnt mind a go at doing it myself.

tr7v8

7,623 posts

258 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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I used a skim plaster called I think EasiCote at my Mums last year. I'm the worlds worst plasterer but even I got a great finish with it.Was a tad more expensive than Carlite but not much. You need to keep it thin though.

Autonotiv

2,673 posts

254 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Dupont666 said:
Anyone used it? (Polycell SmoothOver that is)

My walls and ceilings are for want of a better word, bodged and i want to fix them and make them smooth again.

Have thought about replastering them, but then I saw this:

http://www.diytools.co.uk/diy/Main/sp-2-4784-61001...

on an advert it looks easy. So is it any good and is it worth a go or should i just go for the re-plaster instead?
Fook that, just get a pro in, get 3 quotes and use the middle guy (unless he comes across as a total dick)

If you want a good finish, only way to go is spread it.

andyquantum said:

I've used it to fill in small gaps, but wouldnt want to do a wall with it. My stairway needs skimming and I'd rather get a plasterer in (no radio) to do it than use the smoothover stuff

It's a bit like that Ronseal once over for ences. Adverts make it look easy, turns out it's not all that

Give it a go but dont expect miracles

You what? why not? makes the day go quicker.

Cheers

Furyous

25,739 posts

251 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Just had the lounge 4 walls done...2 blokes, 1 day and £300.

Ceiling was 1 bloke, 3/4 day, £150.

Its nice to have proper flat clean walls now.

You dont notice how flat until you paint them though.

Be warned though - Feck me do they make a mess !!!!

Dupont666

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22,925 posts

222 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Furyous said:
Just had the lounge 4 walls done...2 blokes, 1 day and £300.

Ceiling was 1 bloke, 3/4 day, £150.

Its nice to have proper flat clean walls now.

You dont notice how flat until you paint them though.

Be warned though - Feck me do they make a mess !!!!
That would mean it would cost me in excess of 2.5k for the whole flat.... err no..

Autonotiv

2,673 posts

254 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Dupont666 said:
Furyous said:
Just had the lounge 4 walls done...2 blokes, 1 day and £300.

Ceiling was 1 bloke, 3/4 day, £150.

Its nice to have proper flat clean walls now.

You dont notice how flat until you paint them though.

Be warned though - Feck me do they make a mess !!!!
That would mean it would cost me in excess of 2.5k for the whole flat.... err no..
Oh come on, we don't know how big the walls and ceilings are, and we don't know how big you flat is.

Those walls could have been 25 foot long x 8 foot high, or they could have been 10 foot long x 8 foot high.

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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I bet you'll keep going back to buy more at vast cost, and most of it will end up on you / the floor!

Dupont666

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22,925 posts

222 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Autonotiv said:
Dupont666 said:
Furyous said:
Just had the lounge 4 walls done...2 blokes, 1 day and £300.

Ceiling was 1 bloke, 3/4 day, £150.

Its nice to have proper flat clean walls now.

You dont notice how flat until you paint them though.

Be warned though - Feck me do they make a mess !!!!
That would mean it would cost me in excess of 2.5k for the whole flat.... err no..
Oh come on, we don't know how big the walls and ceilings are, and we don't know how big you flat is.

Those walls could have been 25 foot long x 8 foot high, or they could have been 10 foot long x 8 foot high.
Vicotria 2 bed, split level flat were the main 2 rooms are 14ft - 15ft, another at 11ft - 6ft, 10ft - 11ft, small bathroom and a large expanse 15ft - 6ft (wall is 15ft there) All others are about 8ft in height.

Furyous

25,739 posts

251 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Dupont, call a local guy and get him to come round and give you a quote.

Its well worth doing and Im sure it wouldnt cost as much as you think.

Autonotiv

2,673 posts

254 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Dupont what area are you in?