Can I Knock Out the Bathroom Guy?
Can I Knock Out the Bathroom Guy?
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Glassman

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25,025 posts

245 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Seriously - I'm gonna headbutt him.

He supplied and fitted a bathroom suite along with kitting out a downstairs loo and rads throughout the house.

Job went on for much longer than it should have, but I gave him the benefit of the doubt (that being that he's a lazy lard arse). All that's left: silicone the tile edges to the ceiling; test the lights; screw on a shower head (for the tub) and fix a toilet seat to the downstairs loo (pan has to come out for it). Our retention - as he seemed like a nice bloke etc, was 200-quid.

To add to the problem, he's fitted the wrong radiators. They're under-rated downstairs and over-rated upstairs for the required spaces.

He agreed to complete / fix / do whatever.

He procrastinated.

He came up with a variety of excuses.

Now I've come to the end of my patience, he's denying everything.

"Not my problem"

I want to spark him out. Done.

Paid cash for about half the job and cheque(s) for rest... no contract. Have I got anything to go by if I did this the right way?

Or can i just go and do a number on him??

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

263 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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If you are going to give him what it sounds like he deserves, confessing here first wasn't that wise. hehe

You should have retained more of the money, though it's too late now. You could get someone else to do it properly, invoice him, and then small claims court him...

carmonk

7,910 posts

217 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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You paid for the job in full before it was complete? Live and learn, I've done the same thing; it seems to be an all-too common occurrence nowadays that tradesmen are all too willing to rip off the customer. I used to live in the wilds (-ish) of Cumbria and the tradesmen there were excellent, really top quailty and cheap too. I since moved to Lancashire where they are all st.

My advice is certainly NOT to headbutt him, but to kick him in the balls. That way there's no mark and it's your word against his.

Edited by carmonk on Monday 13th October 15:09

Glassman

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25,025 posts

245 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Small claims will be a pain. Besides, he'll no doubt deny much of it. All we can prove is that we paid him for some rads / bathroom stuff.

What about the lights he's fitted; can we get him on that?

Mc Lovin

5,588 posts

251 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Glassman said:
Seriously - I'm gonna headbutt him.

He supplied and fitted a bathroom suite along with kitting out a downstairs loo and rads throughout the house.

Job went on for much longer than it should have, but I gave him the benefit of the doubt (that being that he's a lazy lard arse). All that's left: silicone the tile edges to the ceiling; test the lights; screw on a shower head (for the tub) and fix a toilet seat to the downstairs loo (pan has to come out for it). Our retention - as he seemed like a nice bloke etc, was 200-quid.

To add to the problem, he's fitted the wrong radiators. They're under-rated downstairs and over-rated upstairs for the required spaces.

He agreed to complete / fix / do whatever.

He procrastinated.

He came up with a variety of excuses.

Now I've come to the end of my patience, he's denying everything.

"Not my problem"

I want to spark him out. Done.

Paid cash for about half the job and cheque(s) for rest... no contract. Have I got anything to go by if I did this the right way?

Or can i just go and do a number on him??
Is he a company, or just "ey up mayder, cash in 'and eh, say n'more wink wink"

L4URA

543 posts

228 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Cancel the cheques for a start!

Glassman

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25,025 posts

245 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Mc Lovin said:
Is he a company, or just "ey up mayder, cash in 'and eh, say n'more wink wink"
He runs two shops nextdoor to each other; one is a bathroom store, the other is a plumbing and heating supplies shop. In London.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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wait untill saturday, I'll have the chainsaw serviced by then

Hoppy2008

2,496 posts

225 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Boil the kettle, then throw it in his face.
When he opens his mouth to scream, ram one of his own spanners in his gob.
Its still his word against yours.

Glassman

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25,025 posts

245 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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sleep envy said:
wait untill saturday, I'll have the chainsaw serviced by then
Scarface shower scene seems most appropriate.

Simpo Two

92,888 posts

295 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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So he did 90% of the work and you paid about 90% of the price?

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Glassman said:
sleep envy said:
wait untill saturday, I'll have the chainsaw serviced by then
Scarface shower scene seems most appropriate.
I can do a good columbian accent

Glassman

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25,025 posts

245 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Simpo Two said:
So he did 90% of the work and you paid about 90% of the price?
You could say that and I can probably get the stuff finished for less than 200. What I'm not happy about most is that the radiators he fitted are wrong. Very wrong.

Mc Lovin

5,588 posts

251 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Glassman said:
Mc Lovin said:
Is he a company, or just "ey up mayder, cash in 'and eh, say n'more wink wink"
He runs two shops nextdoor to each other; one is a bathroom store, the other is a plumbing and heating supplies shop. In London.
Trading standards then, i'm going through a similar situation with a garage over my car, basically i have paid way over what i was origionaly quoted, then when i went to collect they hadn't even sorted the issue it went in for.

Trading standards, then small claims. Beating him to death will be satisfying but it'll land you in the st and he'll get off the hook.

Pickled Piper

6,452 posts

265 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Live and learn. You gave him the benefit of the doubt and he played you. If it's any consolation it's probably down to the fact he's lazy rather than a practiced fraudster.

I had a similar experience with a decorator a couple of years back.

Not much you can do now you have paid him most of the money. You can tell him to Foxtrot Oscar and keep the rest of the money, but it will cost you more to get someone else in to finish the job. Alternatively you could stick with him. He'll probably do the job, but in his own time. Personally, I'd put it down to experience and tell him to F off.

Never ever pay all the money until all the job is done and make sure you withhold a substantial amount until every last bit has been completed. Enough to make it worth his while to come back and finish the job properly. Any decent workman will agree to this.

Good luck

Glassman

Original Poster:

25,025 posts

245 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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sleep envy said:
Glassman said:
sleep envy said:
wait untill saturday, I'll have the chainsaw serviced by then
Scarface shower scene seems most appropriate.
I can do a good columbian accent
You got the yeyo?

boobles

15,251 posts

245 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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£200..... rolleyes
They do say you get what you paid for! biggrin

Simpo Two

92,888 posts

295 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Glassman said:
Simpo Two said:
So he did 90% of the work and you paid about 90% of the price?
You could say that and I can probably get the stuff finished for less than 200. What I'm not happy about most is that the radiators he fitted are wrong. Very wrong.
I'm guessing that he specified them? Did they look wrong at the time, ie big rad in small room etc?

I'm very fussy with my own DIY work and find that tradesmen rarely do anything as neatly as I would - the bloke who did my kitchen floor for example - 'It's not level Mr Tradesman' 'Oh if you want it level that'll be extra...' - but there are times when you either don't have the knowledge or don't want the responsibility. And the moment you delegate stuff, the risks begin, unfortunately. But one thing I do know is that you generally get further by being nice and not nasty.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

300 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Glassman said:
What I'm not happy about most is that the radiators he fitted are wrong. Very wrong.
Leftovers...

Almost certaintly.

james_tigerwoods

16,347 posts

227 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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If he's got a shop - go down and create a bit of a show - turn away customers, etc. smile