Fair deal? Not so sure...
Fair deal? Not so sure...
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amare32

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2,420 posts

253 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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Am always a believer that you should leave people to make their own decisions and friends should only be there to offer their advice but not so sure this time..

I have a mate who has been going out with this girl for 14 months. He's living at his folks and is planning to buy a place next year. His g/f is renting a flat with her friend but for the last 8 months has been pretty much a permanant resident in his parents house. You'd think it would be the other way round.

Initially he wanted to buy on his own but she wanted to purchase the place together. You would think it would be 50-50, the 'terms' then changed to 10% her and 90% him as she was strapped of cash...then it was he would buy the place and then she would contribute to the running costs.

He has raised concerns to me about this and as a mate I can't really tell him what to do, but there's a few potential problems:

1. He's always subbing her money for numerous girls nightsouts and would pay him back but doesn't (he's 31 and she is 25 so still at the going out a lot stage in her life which is understandable)
2. She's always short of money for rent so again bails her out on a regular basis (and for other things)
3. And this is an important one...on 2 nightouts with the lads, he was 'playing away' with 2 different girls but on both occasions his g/f had forgiven him

I worry that he's letting his g/f use him as an 'ATM' and it he does go ahead with buying a house 'together', it may go a bit pear shape only for his family/friends to help him pick up the pieces..

Stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

240 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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so what, seriously why the concern? HE is 31 (albeit living at home) and is old enough to make his own fk ups

Adenauer

18,982 posts

266 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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If he's been going out with her for 14 months then he should know what to expect by now. He should buy a place 100% and let her stay until he gets sick of her and then turf her out, alternatively they might live happily together ever after, you never know, but 90% 10% split has disaster written all over it.

thehawk

9,335 posts

237 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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She's a younger woman, she will leave him.

ukwill

10,237 posts

237 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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Stigmundfreud said:
so what, seriously why the concern? HE is 31 (albeit living at home) and is old enough to make his own fk ups
harsh but fair hehe

if he can't see the wood for the trees, then there could be trouble ahead...

Poledriver

29,599 posts

224 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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The first things which spring to mind are:-
How much does she earn?
Where does she spend her income?
Are her "girlie" nights really that?
If they do decide to buy a place together he must draw up an agreement detailing the way in which the property should be divided when they split up. If he doesn't do this the goldigger will take him for at least half of everything. even if she has made no contribution.

Cynical by experience!

V8mate

45,899 posts

219 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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If he's still playing away then he's probably not ready to settle down or get into messy contractual stuff either.

Tell him to focus on his own goals in life, whether that's jobs, buying his own place, enjoying his life with mates and girls, as clearly neither he nor his current girlfriend are ready for something permanent.

mrobertshaw

2,187 posts

260 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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Could he not pay 100% of the motgage but then rent 10% to her? That when when she leaves she gets fk all, yet still will have contributed a bit.

ukwill

10,237 posts

237 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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actually - show him this thread. The nobber.

amare32

Original Poster:

2,420 posts

253 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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Poledriver said:
The first things which spring to mind are:-
How much does she earn?
Where does she spend her income?
Are her "girlie" nights really that?
If they do decide to buy a place together he must draw up an agreement detailing the way in which the property should be divided when they split up. If he doesn't do this the goldigger will take him for at least half of everything. even if she has made no contribution.

Cynical by experience!
She works as a hairdresser - not really sure how much people earn these days in a salon.

Problem is, like a lot of girls when all her mates go out she wants out too and when he refuses to sub her, she's throws an almighty strop until she gets her way.

I did advise him buying on his own is the best way. To be fair, he moved back to his folks a couple of years ago as he didn't want waste money on rent to save up enough cash for a deposit.

Edited by amare32 on Friday 10th October 13:06

V6

3,781 posts

251 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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Surely that 10% can't be worth the risk of her buggering off? He should just buy it 100% and get her to pay half of all bills.

BOR

5,149 posts

285 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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How do you expect us to give advice without seeing her photo ?

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

301 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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BOR said:
How do you expect us to give advice without seeing her photo ?
She does ATM?


ukwill

10,237 posts

237 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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amare32 said:
Poledriver said:
The first things which spring to mind are:-
How much does she earn?
Where does she spend her income?
Are her "girlie" nights really that?
If they do decide to buy a place together he must draw up an agreement detailing the way in which the property should be divided when they split up. If he doesn't do this the goldigger will take him for at least half of everything. even if she has made no contribution.

Cynical by experience!
She works as a hairdresser - not really sure how much people earn these days in a salon.

Problem is, like a lot of girls when all her mates go out she wants out too and when he refuses to sub her, she's throws an almighty strop until she gets her way.

I did advise him buying on his own is the best way. To be fair, he moved back to his folks a couple of years ago as he didn't want waste money on rent to save up enough cash for a deposit.

Edited by amare32 on Friday 10th October 13:06
So what you're saying is that he's pussy whipped and is ok with that. Some blokes are. It takes all sorts.

Poledriver

29,599 posts

224 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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amare32 said:
*She works as a hairdresser* - not really sure how much people earn these days in a salon.
  • Tell him to buy her an MX5*.
Then she has to pay him 75% of her income every month towards bills etc, the other 25% is hers to do with as she pleases, but when it's gone, it's gone!

HTH thumbup

amare32

Original Poster:

2,420 posts

253 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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Vesuvius 996 said:
BOR said:
How do you expect us to give advice without seeing her photo ?
She does ATM?
I don't think showing a photo would be the right thing to do. LOL.

ATM = the machines you use to take cash out. It would appear he's a substitute for one of these..


Edited by amare32 on Friday 10th October 13:15

Stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

240 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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amare32 said:
Vesuvius 996 said:
BOR said:
How do you expect us to give advice without seeing her photo ?
She does ATM?
I don't think showing a photo would be the right thing to do. LOL.

ATM = the machines you use to take cash out. It would appear he's a substitute for one of these wink
either way it'll leave a bitter taste in his mouth, eventually

smutbag

1,705 posts

220 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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Sounds like a pretty crap relationship on both sides tbh. She is using him for cash, and he is using her for midweek sex.

They'll mess one another up eventually, but it will take time and no internvention is going to be worth the hassle to you. He will tell you to get lost, you'll lose a friend then in 2 years time they will split up and he'll tell you you were right.

Stay out of it

Just my two cents.

Tampon

4,637 posts

255 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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amare32 said:
Vesuvius 996 said:
BOR said:
How do you expect us to give advice without seeing her photo ?
She does ATM?
I don't think showing a photo would be the right thing to do. LOL.

ATM = the machines you use to take cash out. It would appear he's a substitute for one of these..


Edited by amare32 on Friday 10th October 13:15
nono ATM is kind of like kissing her own arse