Quick question regarding teenagers work experience
Discussion
A friend of mine in work mentioned that her 15 year old (very nice) daughter (but that's another story!!!) is doing work experience in a hairdressers. She said she had to work from 9am to 7pm on Thursday which the daughter is not too happy about. We questioned whether this was legal or not.
I may be wrong but I thought a 15 year old could only work 10 hours a week, obviously work experience is different, but would 10 hours in 1 day be legal even on work experience? Also she has to work Saturday.
Do any of you know where the law stands on this so I can let her know.
By the way the mother of the 15 year old is very nice too, and getting divorced!!
Any advice would be most welcome. About the work experience thingy!!
I may be wrong but I thought a 15 year old could only work 10 hours a week, obviously work experience is different, but would 10 hours in 1 day be legal even on work experience? Also she has to work Saturday.
Do any of you know where the law stands on this so I can let her know.
By the way the mother of the 15 year old is very nice too, and getting divorced!!
Any advice would be most welcome. About the work experience thingy!!
Just snatched this off: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/YoungPeople/Workandcar...
Work Expeirence or not...but then again if she wants a career she should keep her gob shut and get on with it:
There are a lot of rules that control working hours of children, but the basic ones are:
14 year olds
during term time, you can only work for two hours on weekdays and Sundays and for five hours on Saturdays
during a school holiday, you can work for up to five hours on a week day or a Saturday and no more than two hours on a Sunday
you cannot work before 7 am or after 7 pm
15 and 16 year olds
If you're 15 or 16 and are working while you're still at school, your rights are almost identical to those of 14 year olds. However, you are allowed to work for up to eight hours on Saturdays or during the school holidays.
16 and 17 year olds
If you're no longer at school and you're 16 or 17, the law refers to you as a young worker. Because you will no longer be at school, there are fewer restrictions on when you can work and for how long, but there are still some rules.
You'll only be able to work for eight hours every day, or a total of 40 hours over the course of a week. You cannot usually work an overnight shift either, but there are some exceptional circumstances where you can.
Because you've reached school leaving age, you may find that employers may be more willing to offer you part-time or full-time employment. You're also not limited to just 'light work', so you'll be allowed to work in places like a busy shop, restaurant kitchen or as a waiter or waitress.
Work Expeirence or not...but then again if she wants a career she should keep her gob shut and get on with it:
There are a lot of rules that control working hours of children, but the basic ones are:
14 year olds
during term time, you can only work for two hours on weekdays and Sundays and for five hours on Saturdays
during a school holiday, you can work for up to five hours on a week day or a Saturday and no more than two hours on a Sunday
you cannot work before 7 am or after 7 pm
15 and 16 year olds
If you're 15 or 16 and are working while you're still at school, your rights are almost identical to those of 14 year olds. However, you are allowed to work for up to eight hours on Saturdays or during the school holidays.
16 and 17 year olds
If you're no longer at school and you're 16 or 17, the law refers to you as a young worker. Because you will no longer be at school, there are fewer restrictions on when you can work and for how long, but there are still some rules.
You'll only be able to work for eight hours every day, or a total of 40 hours over the course of a week. You cannot usually work an overnight shift either, but there are some exceptional circumstances where you can.
Because you've reached school leaving age, you may find that employers may be more willing to offer you part-time or full-time employment. You're also not limited to just 'light work', so you'll be allowed to work in places like a busy shop, restaurant kitchen or as a waiter or waitress.
Edited by missy-a-k on Wednesday 8th October 12:23
Iain H said:
Zen. said:
It's work experience...welcome to the real world, if she doesn't work the hours how will she know if she will cope or like it in a years time?
That was my thought, we were just curious whether she was leagally allowed to do it!Oh and I'll add: I wasn't paid.
Edited by Heskey on Wednesday 8th October 12:35
My understanding of this is that: -
The workplace must adhere to the H&S at Work Act
The school must have visited the premises to confirm this
The student must not start work before 7am or finish after 7pm
They should have a minimum 30 minute break per shift
They must not work between the hours of 10pm and 7am (in other words they can not do night shifts)
They must be supervised
(Please note the info that Missy AK has quoted applies to paid young workers and does not cover work experience)
HTH
The workplace must adhere to the H&S at Work Act
The school must have visited the premises to confirm this
The student must not start work before 7am or finish after 7pm
They should have a minimum 30 minute break per shift
They must not work between the hours of 10pm and 7am (in other words they can not do night shifts)
They must be supervised
(Please note the info that Missy AK has quoted applies to paid young workers and does not cover work experience)
HTH
Edited by Firefoot on Wednesday 8th October 12:34
NDA said:
I assume she's being paid?
What's she not happy about??
She isn't being paid, she isn't unhappy at doing the normal working day, its the Saturday and the Thursday until 7pm free of charge! In a place where she has no intention of following a career. She wants to be a midwife, they put her in a hairdressers, would you be happy?What's she not happy about??
Might I ask WHO organised the work experience.
My son did 2 weeks work experience at a local Garden centre, he arranged it, but the school went and did a risk assessment, which we were sent a copy of and asked to sign.
He worked 9 am til 5pm with 3 breaks (15 minutes x 2 and 1 hour x 1)
Any more hours and I would not have allowed it.
Because he worked hard, he was given 30 quid at the end of each week (which was not allowed by the school) and offered a Saturday job at £20 for the same hours. I printed off information off a government website relating to employment of minors and got my son to give it to his employer.
In addition I offered my son some safety advice.
1) Don't operate any machinery - It's illegal.
2) Don't put your hands where you would not put your penis.
3) Don't climb any ladders.
My son did 2 weeks work experience at a local Garden centre, he arranged it, but the school went and did a risk assessment, which we were sent a copy of and asked to sign.
He worked 9 am til 5pm with 3 breaks (15 minutes x 2 and 1 hour x 1)
Any more hours and I would not have allowed it.
Because he worked hard, he was given 30 quid at the end of each week (which was not allowed by the school) and offered a Saturday job at £20 for the same hours. I printed off information off a government website relating to employment of minors and got my son to give it to his employer.
In addition I offered my son some safety advice.
1) Don't operate any machinery - It's illegal.
2) Don't put your hands where you would not put your penis.
3) Don't climb any ladders.
BAHN-STORMA said:
Iain H said:
NDA said:
I assume she's being paid?
What's she not happy about??
She isn't being paid, she isn't unhappy at doing the normal working day, its the Saturday and the Thursday until 7pm free of charge! In a place where she has no intention of following a career. She wants to be a midwife, they put her in a hairdressers, would you be happy?What's she not happy about??
Kids choose where they want to work for Work Ex, why hasn't she?Mr POD said:
Might I ask WHO organised the work experience.
My son did 2 weeks work experience at a local Garden centre, he arranged it, but the school went and did a risk assessment, which we were sent a copy of and asked to sign.
He worked 9 am til 5pm with 3 breaks (15 minutes x 2 and 1 hour x 1)
Any more hours and I would not have allowed it.
Because he worked hard, he was given 30 quid at the end of each week (which was not allowed by the school) and offered a Saturday job at £20 for the same hours. I printed off information off a government website relating to employment of minors and got my son to give it to his employer.
In addition I offered my son some safety advice.
1) Don't operate any machinery - It's illegal.
2) Don't put your hands where you would not put your penis.
3) Don't climb any ladders.
I think it was arranged by the school but the parents were given some sort of form, (sorry don't know too many details) I am assuming my friend hasn't been asked to give permission for her to work until 7pm.My son did 2 weeks work experience at a local Garden centre, he arranged it, but the school went and did a risk assessment, which we were sent a copy of and asked to sign.
He worked 9 am til 5pm with 3 breaks (15 minutes x 2 and 1 hour x 1)
Any more hours and I would not have allowed it.
Because he worked hard, he was given 30 quid at the end of each week (which was not allowed by the school) and offered a Saturday job at £20 for the same hours. I printed off information off a government website relating to employment of minors and got my son to give it to his employer.
In addition I offered my son some safety advice.
1) Don't operate any machinery - It's illegal.
2) Don't put your hands where you would not put your penis.
3) Don't climb any ladders.
Iain H said:
NDA said:
I assume she's being paid?
What's she not happy about??
She isn't being paid, she isn't unhappy at doing the normal working day, its the Saturday and the Thursday until 7pm free of charge! In a place where she has no intention of following a career. She wants to be a midwife, they put her in a hairdressers, would you be happy?What's she not happy about??
If she doesn't like it, then she should refuse. Chances are she won't be offered the opportunity again though.
But...........it does sound like the salon is taking the pee
Iain H said:
NDA said:
I assume she's being paid?
What's she not happy about??
She isn't being paid, she isn't unhappy at doing the normal working day, its the Saturday and the Thursday until 7pm free of charge! In a place where she has no intention of following a career. She wants to be a midwife, they put her in a hairdressers, would you be happy?What's she not happy about??
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