ICESAVE has gone into administration....
ICESAVE has gone into administration....
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toppstuff

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13,698 posts

277 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/ind...

And it looks like it will take some time to get your cash out...


Swillsy

181 posts

217 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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www.icesave.co.uk - has stopped taking monies!

toppstuff

Original Poster:

13,698 posts

277 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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Swillsy said:
www.icesave.co.uk - has stopped taking monies!
More to the point - you can't take any out right now either !

plasticpig

12,932 posts

255 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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Benders (as Mr Rascal would say)

Chris_H

1,065 posts

308 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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So I guess as it's today, you'll still get back up to £50K. If it had happened yesterday it would have only been up to £35K!! That's a coincidence!!

munky

5,328 posts

278 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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yep

- Landsbanki (Icesave is just a brand name) is in administration having been seized by the Icelandic FSA. In the UK their operation is a branch and therefore Icesave deposits are in the first instance covered by the Icelandic protection scheme, whereas Kaupthing Edge is covered by the UK FSCS scheme, the UK operation being a UK subsidiary rather than a branch. They are still in business.

- The icelandic krona has been fixed
- A loan of EUR4bn by Russia to Iceland is being discussed
- UK FSCS scheme increased to £50k as of today, I believe

Carl_Spackler

3,142 posts

218 months

RichardD

3,608 posts

275 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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eek I put in a request to move £1000 out on Sunday (so yesterday in business terms) which is currently in transit scratchchin

Wasn't panicing, honest, its to pay for a builder for the TVR house smile

toppstuff

Original Poster:

13,698 posts

277 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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A fair number of banks had credit default swaps in play with the Icelandics...that'll be a fun thing to sort out then !

Andy Zarse

10,870 posts

277 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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Icesave has gone into administration; so has this thread...


http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

plasticpig

12,932 posts

255 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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anonymous said:
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I was reffering to the Icelandic governments actions wink Nicking 4.5bn from UK citizens to prop up its own system.

smack

9,775 posts

221 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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Chris_H said:
So I guess as it's today, you'll still get back up to £50K. If it had happened yesterday it would have only been up to £35K!! That's a coincidence!!
Icesave are not part of the FCSC (Financial Services Compensation Scheme).

scotal

8,751 posts

309 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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smack said:
Chris_H said:
So I guess as it's today, you'll still get back up to £50K. If it had happened yesterday it would have only been up to £35K!! That's a coincidence!!
Icesave are not part of the FCSC (Financial Services Compensation Scheme).
Are you sure about that?

munky

5,328 posts

278 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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scotal said:
smack said:
Chris_H said:
So I guess as it's today, you'll still get back up to £50K. If it had happened yesterday it would have only been up to £35K!! That's a coincidence!!
Icesave are not part of the FCSC (Financial Services Compensation Scheme).
Are you sure about that?
The Independent on 26th March said:
In both cases, savers with less than 35,000 in their accounts would be fully covered in the unlikely event of the banks going under, just as they would be were a British bank to collapse. But while Kaupthing is a fully fledged member of the UK's Financial Services Compensation Scheme (FSCS), Landsbanki customers are protected through the passport system under which many European Economic Area banks operate in this country.

In practice, this means that if Kaupthing were to go under, savers could claim directly from the FSCS, while victims of a Landsbanki collapse would first have to apply to the equivalent scheme in Iceland, which has a maximum pay-out of 16,300. Additional losses would then be claimed from the FSCS.
Edited by munky on Tuesday 7th October 12:00

RichardD

3,608 posts

275 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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anonymous said:
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Am rather glad this is the final payment for the garage otherwise I'd have had a five figure balance in there. Its only a two figure balance now after logging in to check.

Would have been rather ironic, banks of Ice being on fire should they have had branches here paperbag

Seriously though, the figure of £4.5 billion of UK funds being frozen is very very bad and could cause very serious panic as the average person won't distinguish between what Icesave is vs a full UK based institutions. frown

JonRB

80,081 posts

302 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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My brother-in-law got his money out of there a few days ago (or, rather, initiated a CHAPS transfer a few days ago). Looks like it was in the nick of time.

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

272 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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toppstuff said:
A fair number of banks had credit default swaps in play with the Icelandics...that'll be a fun thing to sort out then !
The Icelandic banks have been priced as very risky in the market since Mandy was in office for the first time. I would be very surprised if any bank has been caught out by this.

smack

9,775 posts

221 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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smack said:
Chris_H said:
So I guess as it's today, you'll still get back up to £50K. If it had happened yesterday it would have only been up to £35K!! That's a coincidence!!
Icesave are not part of the FCSC (Financial Services Compensation Scheme).
Darn, got the acronym mixed up - FSCS. Anyhow, munky answered it.

toppstuff

Original Poster:

13,698 posts

277 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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NoelWatson said:
toppstuff said:
A fair number of banks had credit default swaps in play with the Icelandics...that'll be a fun thing to sort out then !
The Icelandic banks have been priced as very risky in the market since Mandy was in office for the first time. I would be very surprised if any bank has been caught out by this.
Pleased to hear it. I guess it has not been much of a surprise when you look at the CDS spreads from the Icelandics, so I guess any sensible banks would have seen the risks.

scotal

8,751 posts

309 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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munky said:
scotal said:
smack said:
Chris_H said:
So I guess as it's today, you'll still get back up to £50K. If it had happened yesterday it would have only been up to £35K!! That's a coincidence!!
Icesave are not part of the FCSC (Financial Services Compensation Scheme).
Are you sure about that?
The Independent on 26th March said:
In both cases, savers with less than 35,000 in their accounts would be fully covered in the unlikely event of the banks going under, just as they would be were a British bank to collapse. But while Kaupthing is a fully fledged member of the UK's Financial Services Compensation Scheme (FSCS), Landsbanki customers are protected through the passport system under which many European Economic Area banks operate in this country.

In practice, this means that if Kaupthing were to go under, savers could claim directly from the FSCS, while victims of a Landsbanki collapse would first have to apply to the equivalent scheme in Iceland, which has a maximum pay-out of 16,300. Additional losses would then be claimed from the FSCS.
Edited by munky on Tuesday 7th October 12:00
Ta, BTW the FSCS levy for last year was apparently a total of £5mio, this year it will be £450mio.

Guess who'll be paying fo rthat then......

"According to the FSCS, deposit-taking firms are to face a combined £450m levy bill next year as a result of the government's rescue deal. Not what you'd call pocket change, especially compared to the £5m deposit-taking firms contributed to the FSCS this year.

And by 'deposit taking' they mean building societies and IFAs, as well as banks.

The cause for all the kerfuffle is the fact the FSCS borrowed £14bn from the Bank of England to transfer B&B's retail deposits to Abbey following its nationalisation."

Yep, it's all going to be passed on to the consumer folks.