Barking dogs
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jamesson

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3,709 posts

251 months

Friday 3rd October 2008
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I have neighbours who breed dogs for a living. They have two German setters and produce several litters a year. They keep them in their garage and the amount of barking and whining coming from there is constant and intensely annoying. All the other neighbours are fed up with it too.

I have contacted the council and spoken to the animal warden about it. She was sympathetic but said the law was a bit toothless on this one in so much as they can be told to pack it in and if they do then that's the end of it. Every time they have a new litter it's a new complaint and they can't be done retrospectively for past nuisances.

I have filled in diaries of the barking, as requested by the animal warden, but nothing changes.

The RSPCA has been round and said the dogs are in a good condition.

The owners are "Shameless" types and have no respect for anyone else living around them.

Has anyone else had a similar problem in the past, and if so, was it ever solved? All advice welcome!

jeff m

4,066 posts

288 months

Friday 3rd October 2008
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A bit ironic really when so many people (here) have noisy cars.

It is really easy to train a dog not to bark excessively.

I would keep complaining adding that they are not making any effort to correct the situation. If that fails buy a TVR.

danrc

2,808 posts

240 months

Friday 3rd October 2008
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Can you not buy one of the high pitch emitting things that are not audiable to humans? Hook it up with a mega phone and leave it on for a while. This will stop them barking and also shagging so they don't produce any more pups. Jobs a good un!

jamesson

Original Poster:

3,709 posts

251 months

Friday 3rd October 2008
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danrc said:
Can you not buy one of the high pitch emitting things that are not audiable to humans? Hook it up with a mega phone and leave it on for a while. This will stop them barking and also shagging so they don't produce any more pups. Jobs a good un!
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ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

279 months

Friday 3rd October 2008
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Read a story somewhere recently about dog lovers only being allowed to keep a certain number of dogs on their property. Not sure where ??
My neighbour's dog was barking a lot and getting on my nerves last year, mainly when left alone. I mentioned it to her in passing and to her credit she tried to address the problem, shortly after the dog died - boy, did I feel bad for complaining. biggrin

jamesson

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3,709 posts

251 months

Friday 3rd October 2008
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I'm hesitant about complaining to them in person because the guy in particular is a pleb of the highest order. I could imagine mysterious damage to one of more of our cars suddenly appearing.

A8VIP

10,862 posts

226 months

Friday 3rd October 2008
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jeff m said:
A bit ironic really when so many people (here) have noisy cars.

It is really easy to train a dog not to bark excessively.

I would keep complaining adding that they are not making any effort to correct the situation. If that fails buy a TVR.
Not really a comparison, is it?

Do the folks with noisy cars just sit in them and constantly blip the throttle outside their house for hours at a time?

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

301 months

Friday 3rd October 2008
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A8VIP said:
jeff m said:
A bit ironic really when so many people (here) have noisy cars.

It is really easy to train a dog not to bark excessively.

I would keep complaining adding that they are not making any effort to correct the situation. If that fails buy a TVR.
Not really a comparison, is it?

Do the folks with noisy cars just sit in them and constantly blip the throttle outside their house for hours at a time?
If you read the Cerb forum yes they do!

rofl

Seriousl pain in the ar53 these dogs.

Call the HMRC grassline and at least you'll feel better. Bet it's a cash business.


jamesson

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Friday 3rd October 2008
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Vesuvius 996 said:
Call the HMRC grassline and at least you'll feel better. Bet it's a cash business.
Undoubtedly. They're already on the case. smile

Mr POD

5,153 posts

222 months

Friday 3rd October 2008
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jamesson said:
I have neighbours who breed dogs for a living.
Under the terms of my FreeHOLD, I can not run a business involving live stock, or animals of any kind. I can keep pets, but not for profit.

Also, if I run a business from home, I need to apply for planning permission for change of use.

There is not a fine line between, keeping a couple of dogs which happen to breed sometimes, and running a puppy farm.

Also I bet income tax is not paid on profit. (Tax man should be able to check with kennel club records maybe, to get an approximate figure)


jamesson

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3,709 posts

251 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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Result!

They're moving out! They've bought a six acre pile several miles away and will be gone within two weeks. Bliss...

GTIR

24,741 posts

296 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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jamesson said:
Result!

They're moving out! They've bought a six acre pile several miles away and will be gone within two weeks. Bliss...
The power of PH!

dan1981

18,103 posts

229 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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A little late now but a friend of ours had a similar problem, dog barking all night ect etc.

Complained to council, apparently they classed it as noise pollution sent someone round late at night when it happened alot to listen, they agreed, and sent some guy round to install noise monitors.

That was a couple of weeks ago - presumably the noise monitors will be looked at and then a decision will be made.


Busamav

2,954 posts

238 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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right ,

so basically they are using their garage for the purpose of a business , I do believe there may be a change of use planning issue here .

But as somebody else here mentioned , noisy exhausts are more offensive to me than a dog bark

mark69sheer

3,906 posts

232 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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jamesson said:
I have neighbours who breed dogs for a living. They have two German setters and produce several litters a year. They keep them in their garage and the amount of barking and whining coming from there is constant and intensely annoying. All the other neighbours are fed up with it too.

I have contacted the council and spoken to the animal warden about it. She was sympathetic but said the law was a bit toothless on this one in so much as they can be told to pack it in and if they do then that's the end of it. Every time they have a new litter it's a new complaint and they can't be done retrospectively for past nuisances.

I have filled in diaries of the barking, as requested by the animal warden, but nothing changes.

The RSPCA has been round and said the dogs are in a good condition.

The owners are "Shameless" types and have no respect for anyone else living around them.

Has anyone else had a similar problem in the past, and if so, was it ever solved? All advice welcome!
Had a very similar occurance when a neighbour kept three collies in his front garden in a wire compound.
Police, Council etc etc everyone was informed as these dogs barked without breathing for six hours non stop every day, We had young kids and they couldn't sleep.
The authorities were hopeless.
Drove me to attempting to smash the neighbours front door down in frustration after months of the same. He even used to throw the crap onto the pavement.

The problem was solved by planning who said he didn't have permission for the compound. So it have to be removed and the dogs were kept inside.
In your case the garage may not be elligible as a kennel. Are any petrols etc kept in it?
Also do they have permission to run a business from their home? I would speak to coucil planning as asking the police or the environment people is a waste of time and only boils your piss.

GPSS

694 posts

241 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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Had this in spain. Solution is pack some mars bars with laxatives and then lob them over the fence. Dog barks causing a blow back scenario. Owners will soon get sick of clearing up the mess. Job done.

Mrs Grumpy

863 posts

219 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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I realise your problem has already been solved by them moving out, but I would have thought if they were breeding dogs then this would be classed as a kennels, which would need to be licensed as such. I was thinking of setting up a doggy day care business (yes, there is a demand!) and would need to be licensed by the LA as a kennels.

jamesson

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3,709 posts

251 months

Thursday 16th October 2008
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You all make very valid points, especially those about running a business from home. You simply wouldn't believe how toothless the authorities have been on this one.

However, they will soon be gone so it's the result I've been looking for.

They've also sold all but one of their puppies so the noise level has been reduced dramatically.