Who counts and grades these sick photos?
Who counts and grades these sick photos?
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CR

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95 posts

220 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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Just read this article - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/mid/7634021.stm

It got me thinking a rather grim thought, does someone literally have to look through each and every image and grade them? Would they be a regular investigator or are they more likely to be a psychologist? Contender for the most sickening job on the planet either way IMHO.

Badgerboy

1,794 posts

222 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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I think Glitter just found a new job role. I'm sure he'd happily be putting in the overtime!

Seriously though, I wonder how many of these analyists get off on it? They must have to be evaluated, otherwise it'd be a paedo's dream job.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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not a job I'd want to do

gopher

5,160 posts

289 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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I know someone who does this, he's a BiB, in fact he may even have worked on this very case (I don't know and I'm not going to ask). I didn't know about the categories though, and I'm not sure I really want to know any more.

Mc Lovin

5,588 posts

251 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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well there's a turn up for the books, a vicar envolved in child porn...who'd of thought it!?

Eddh

4,656 posts

222 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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How does the grading system work?

Munter

31,331 posts

271 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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Carefully selected people I'd suggest. Hopefully they can switch off from the material and just compare it to the guidelines for the grades.

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

301 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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Police Officers from the Child Protection Sqaud have to do it.

I've been unfortunate enough to see one sample when I was prosecuting a case in the Crown Court involving child trafficking. To anyone who has even the slightest curiosity about this stuff, just don't bother, really just don't. I wish I'd never seen it. And I will never get rid of the image.

Ona slightly brighter note when I was a pupil barrister I once got paid £35 an hour to watch jazz movies which had been seized in Soho.




sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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Vesuvius 996 said:
Ona slightly brighter note when I was a pupil barrister I once got paid £35 an hour to watch jazz movies which had been seized in Soho.
what did you spend you 55p on?

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

301 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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Eddh said:
How does the grading system work?
It's 1-5

1 is nudity with a sexual slant

4 is penetration
5 is torture or bestiality


2 and 3 are somewhere in the middle.


FourWheelDrift

92,345 posts

314 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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Mc Lovin said:
well there's a turn up for the books, a vicar envolved in child porn...who'd of thought it!?
As Father Ted once said, "This whole paedophile priests thing is all out of proportion. If there are 200 million priests in the world and 5% are paedophiles...then that's only 10 million."

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

301 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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sleep envy said:
Vesuvius 996 said:
Ona slightly brighter note when I was a pupil barrister I once got paid £35 an hour to watch jazz movies which had been seized in Soho.
what did you spend you 55p on?
hehe



Git.

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scotal

8,751 posts

309 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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Munter said:
Carefully selected people I'd suggest. Hopefully they can switch off from the material and just compare it to the guidelines for the grades.
Didn't one of the officers in a fairly recent case end up getting done for having some stuff on his Pc that shoudln't have been there. Might have been one of the soham officers?



King Herald

23,501 posts

246 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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Eddh said:
How does the grading system work?
I believe grade 5 is the worst: babies under 3 being forcibly raped, penetrated, or something along those lines. :sick:

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

256 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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Vesuvius 996 said:
Police Officers from the Child Protection Sqaud have to do it.

I've been unfortunate enough to see one sample when I was prosecuting a case in the Crown Court involving child trafficking. To anyone who has even the slightest curiosity about this stuff, just don't bother, really just don't. I wish I'd never seen it. And I will never get rid of the image.
I once saw a documentary about the police officers who do this for a living.

"Driven" is one way of describing them. They have to be to do what they do, because the other way of describing them is "haunted".

One of them said something like "you join this squad thinking that you can make a difference and that you'll be able to leave work at work. That's only half right."

V8S

8,582 posts

267 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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It says he 'took' photos as well. Making can be classed as having a copy on your hard drive, but taking suggests he actually participated physically in some form of child abuse but there's no details about that. Further charges to be brought against him soon?

V8S

8,582 posts

267 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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I saw a prog once, too, or it may have been on Crimewatch, that there is a very grey area for even policemen investigating the crimes that means they can potentially be arrested and charged for having the material that they are investigating. Sounds weird but that's how it was put.

davemac250

4,499 posts

235 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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Have had the mis-fortune to be involved in this sort of case.

An unexpected find during a more routine matter.

As exhibiting officer I had to go through the whole batch of pictures. How colleagues did it full time I will never know. Truly disturbing.

Again, on a brighter note I would have earned 65p!

RacerMDR

5,582 posts

240 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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not exactly the same - but relevant

i used to work in a place that implemented a system for the Tinternet, that set the flags etc so that you could have a safe flag knowing that if you have it set - your kids could surf without too much risk.

Anyway - as part of that solution there was a 'Blacklist' and people could report websites.

The people who had to view 'those' nasty websites where the evil scumbags frequent were in fact a group of grandmothers. Seriously - it was deemed they had seen a lot in life, and had no possible personal interest in viewing such material.

I found that very interesting at the time!

gti tim

1,633 posts

231 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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During training we went and spoke to the guys who do all the hi-tech stuff with the pcs. We got told that if our public protection unit wont or cant deal with the case then we will have to do it ourselves. Not something i am looking forward to, having seen some of the types of pics we may have to view.