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I don't get out to the big city much and therefore am a bit out of touch.
Prompted by the Subway thread.
I thought that Subway was just some sort of trendy name. However I see some supermarkets are labeling filled rolls as a 'sub'. So whats the deal with calling rolls, baguettes or whatever subs.
Prompted by the Subway thread.
I thought that Subway was just some sort of trendy name. However I see some supermarkets are labeling filled rolls as a 'sub'. So whats the deal with calling rolls, baguettes or whatever subs.
Einion Yrth said:
VxDuncan said:
Think it's as in "submarine rolls", cos they are shaped like submarines. But I might be wrong!
Never seen one with a conning tower.
It's a word of US origin I believe. Certainly they had SUBWAY years ago when I lived in New Jersey - long before the brand arrived in the UK.
I think it is a Submarine Roll. Soft bread, not crusty, long, shaped like a submarine but without the aforementioned conning tower.
Someone should bake 'em with a conning tower. Great gimmick.
I think it is a Submarine Roll. Soft bread, not crusty, long, shaped like a submarine but without the aforementioned conning tower.
Someone should bake 'em with a conning tower. Great gimmick.
"Sub" stands for bread "substitute", as it's a bread/roll shaped eating stuff but not made of the usual bread ingredients.
Scientists believe that the origins of the "sub" come from the term "submissive" where slaves were ordered to eat anything (literally anything). Through the years, the "submissive" term has been phased out and the "substitute" brought in, as it was deemed a bit risque in modern times. However the proliferation of such outlets as "Subway" have caused the term "sub" to become accepted.
As a healthy eating alternative with extra energy, one famous high street chain tried to bring out "Pro-sub-stitute" and in a huge marketing blunder decided to take out the "sub" part of the name as they believed it was a bit of a mouthful.
Business went through the roof, but only for about a week. I believe the confusion really started when they were asked ' 6" or 12" '.
Hope that helps
Tony
Scientists believe that the origins of the "sub" come from the term "submissive" where slaves were ordered to eat anything (literally anything). Through the years, the "submissive" term has been phased out and the "substitute" brought in, as it was deemed a bit risque in modern times. However the proliferation of such outlets as "Subway" have caused the term "sub" to become accepted.
As a healthy eating alternative with extra energy, one famous high street chain tried to bring out "Pro-sub-stitute" and in a huge marketing blunder decided to take out the "sub" part of the name as they believed it was a bit of a mouthful.
Business went through the roof, but only for about a week. I believe the confusion really started when they were asked ' 6" or 12" '.
Hope that helps
Tony
TonyHetherington said:
"Sub" stands for bread "substitute", as it's a bread/roll shaped eating stuff but not made of the usual bread ingredients.
Scientists believe that the origins of the "sub" come from the term "submissive" where slaves were ordered to eat anything (literally anything). Through the years, the "submissive" term has been phased out and the "substitute" brought in, as it was deemed a bit risque in modern times. However the proliferation of such outlets as "Subway" have caused the term "sub" to become accepted.
As a healthy eating alternative with extra energy, one famous high street chain tried to bring out "Pro-sub-stitute" and in a huge marketing blunder decided to take out the "sub" part of the name as they believed it was a bit of a mouthful.
Business went through the roof, but only for about a week. I believe the confusion really started when they were asked ' 6" or 12" '.
Hope that helps
Tony
Blimey Tony, are you available for parties Scientists believe that the origins of the "sub" come from the term "submissive" where slaves were ordered to eat anything (literally anything). Through the years, the "submissive" term has been phased out and the "substitute" brought in, as it was deemed a bit risque in modern times. However the proliferation of such outlets as "Subway" have caused the term "sub" to become accepted.
As a healthy eating alternative with extra energy, one famous high street chain tried to bring out "Pro-sub-stitute" and in a huge marketing blunder decided to take out the "sub" part of the name as they believed it was a bit of a mouthful.
Business went through the roof, but only for about a week. I believe the confusion really started when they were asked ' 6" or 12" '.
Hope that helps
Tony
I'd heard the name comes from New York, where the (predominantly Italian) illegal immigrants were known as 'submarines', because they 'came in under the water'.
When they started making and selling their own Italian style rolls, which looked vaguely submarine shaped, it was natural that they would be nicknamed 'submarine rolls' which then gets shortened to 'Subs'
When they started making and selling their own Italian style rolls, which looked vaguely submarine shaped, it was natural that they would be nicknamed 'submarine rolls' which then gets shortened to 'Subs'
In 1900 the US Navy acquired a Holland-VI, one of the very earliest submarines (which were invented by an Irishman named John Holland). It was brilliant and in 1914 upon the onset of WW1 the US decided they need 29 more vessels. Because steel was in short supply at such short notice they constructed their fleet from baked dough which was cheap and plentiful as brown granary bread products were deemed unfit for human consumption back then as white bread was all the rage. As it turned out however the dough-constructed submarines were a great success in their time and because of their distinctive shape and texture elongate bread rolls (of both white and brown varieties) were subsequently named submarine or 'sub' rolls.
(After a major oven fire at a submarine factory in New Jersey in 1921 and a surplus of steel becoming available during the great depression submarines were once again constructed from metal as envisaged by the great John Holland. The term 'sub rolls' however survived intact to this day)
(After a major oven fire at a submarine factory in New Jersey in 1921 and a surplus of steel becoming available during the great depression submarines were once again constructed from metal as envisaged by the great John Holland. The term 'sub rolls' however survived intact to this day)
Your clearly all being silly.
Its due to the shape of them of course. When a submarine puts to sea then most foodstuffs are crushed under atmospheric pressure when the submarine dives, but the sub roll being the same shape as a submarine doesn't, hence the only food allowed on an operational submarine is a sub roll. In recent years they have also started carrying the smaller torpedo roll too.
Its due to the shape of them of course. When a submarine puts to sea then most foodstuffs are crushed under atmospheric pressure when the submarine dives, but the sub roll being the same shape as a submarine doesn't, hence the only food allowed on an operational submarine is a sub roll. In recent years they have also started carrying the smaller torpedo roll too.
wildoliver said:
Your clearly all being silly.
Its due to the shape of them of course. When a submarine puts to sea then most foodstuffs are crushed under atmospheric pressure when the submarine dives, but the sub roll being the same shape as a submarine doesn't, hence the only food allowed on an operational submarine is a sub roll. In recent years they have also started carrying the smaller torpedo roll too.
That explains all the fat submariners I see walking round the dockyard then...... I thought it was too many cheesy hammy eggies.Its due to the shape of them of course. When a submarine puts to sea then most foodstuffs are crushed under atmospheric pressure when the submarine dives, but the sub roll being the same shape as a submarine doesn't, hence the only food allowed on an operational submarine is a sub roll. In recent years they have also started carrying the smaller torpedo roll too.
wadgebeast said:
That explains all the fat submariners I see walking round the dockyard then...... I thought it was too many cheesy hammy eggies.
Eggs are also allowed as long as they are stored on their sides (to resist the atmospheric pressure mentioned earlier)... as are Babybel cheeses (partly due to their shape and partly the protective wax covering)CH
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