ADHD....is it real or is it part of "British disease"?

[beanbag]

I keep reading about ADHD all the time, but from my point of view, it's a load of clap-trap and part of the ever-spreading "British disease" symptoms spreading back home.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7630926.stm

When I was a kid, I was a huge hand-full. I used to disrupt classes, speak all the time and generally cause a bit of hassle. Nothing bad...I was just a bit of a cheeky kid.

In "my day", I would have simply been told off and made to behave. Nowadays it seems as though I would have been diagnosed with ADHD and stuffed full of drugs and been treated a little "special", which is bks. Kids can be disruptive. That's their nature! It doesn't affect them in later life....it's just that's the way they are.

For example; I worked out ok. I'm working for a good company with a good wage. I also got a good degree, and now I'm about to get married and perhaps start my own family in a few years. Jeeze! I turned out messed up, didn't I!?

So what is all this bks with ADHD? Perhaps I'm spouting crap, so somebody please enlighten me!!!

Edited by beanbag on Wednesday 24th September 09:49

[scorp]

I'm not convinced, it seems any kid not conforming to a social norm needs some kind of medical label to justify it, young kids are sometimes boisterous, its called having a personality, muppets.

Edited by scorp on Wednesday 24th September 09:44

[satchbot]

I've met plenty of kids with ADHD and most of them are okay. It's the ones whos parents use it as an excuse for criminal behaviour (read: lack of disiplin) that annoys me.



Yes I think is part of the British disease of excuses and not taking reponsibility for your actions.

[Justayellowbadge]

Giving it some thought, I can't help but feel....oh look shiny things!

[Bec]

Having parents and a brother who work with children with a variety of special needs, including ADHD, I have to disagree to a certain extent - this is an illness, and there are some children who need the medication they are prescribed in order to function at a halfway normal level. In most cases many other avenues will have been explored without resorting to medication.

That said, there are an awful lot of children who are disruptive through lack of parental discipline rather than illness, who are incorectly labelled as ADHD, thereby diminishing support for those who really need it.....

[Vesuvius 996]

Bec said:

Having parents and a brother who work with children with a variety of special needs, including ADHD, I have to disagree to a certain extent - this is an illness, and there are some children who need the medication they are prescribed in order to function at a halfway normal level. In most cases many other avenues will have been explored without resorting to medication.

That said, there are an awful lot of children who are disruptive through lack of parental discipline rather than illness, who are incorectly labelled as ADHD, thereby diminishing support for those who really need it.....

Well said.

A few may have an actual problem, but generally it's a good excuse for little sh tcv ts who just need a bl00dy good battering.

[cg360]

Agree with these: ^^^

Also, the fact that there is a benefit associated with having an ADHD child probably boosts the figures remarkably.

[beanbag]

Vesuvius 996 said:

Bec said:

Having parents and a brother who work with children with a variety of special needs, including ADHD, I have to disagree to a certain extent - this is an illness, and there are some children who need the medication they are prescribed in order to function at a halfway normal level. In most cases many other avenues will have been explored without resorting to medication.

That said, there are an awful lot of children who are disruptive through lack of parental discipline rather than illness, who are incorectly labelled as ADHD, thereby diminishing support for those who really need it.....

Well said.

A few may have an actual problem, but generally it's a good excuse for little sh tcv ts who just need a bl00dy good battering.

OK. I see the problem, but I just keep hearing this ADHD all the time and it seems as though more and more kids seem to have it these days.

It's also interesting to hear pretty much nothing regarding ADHD over here in Austria or Spain. (I've no idea for other countries). I've spoken to my Austrian colleagues about this and they've never heard of such a disorder.

[Vesuvius 996]

beanbag said:

Vesuvius 996 said:

Bec said:

Having parents and a brother who work with children with a variety of special needs, including ADHD, I have to disagree to a certain extent - this is an illness, and there are some children who need the medication they are prescribed in order to function at a halfway normal level. In most cases many other avenues will have been explored without resorting to medication.

That said, there are an awful lot of children who are disruptive through lack of parental discipline rather than illness, who are incorectly labelled as ADHD, thereby diminishing support for those who really need it.....

Well said.

A few may have an actual problem, but generally it's a good excuse for little sh tcv ts who just need a bl00dy good battering.

OK. I see the problem, but I just keep hearing this ADHD all the time and it seems as though more and more kids seem to have it these days.

It's also interesting to hear pretty much nothing regarding ADHD over here in Austria or Spain. (I've no idea for other countries). I've spoken to my Austrian colleagues about this and they've never heard of such a disorder.

A very good darticle on it here.


http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-%26-tec...

[satchbot]

All of the kids I've met with ADHD have come from poor backgrounds. All seem to be fed junk food and have parents who don't give a damn. Just an observation...

[Vesuvius 996]

anonymous said:

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[Justayellowbadge]

anonymous said:

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What exactly were you doing in Vienna, then?

[singlecoil]

Smae as all taht bolololoclsk abuot dislecksia IHMO

[bazking69]

Don't buy it myself. It was unheard of when I was at school, and I'm only 25.
Another excuse for badly brought up kids who haven't had respect and discipline instilled IMO...and are fed too many e numbers.

[Hedders]

satchbot said:

All of the kids I've met with ADHD have come from poor backgrounds. All seem to be fed junk food and have parents who don't give a damn. Just an observation...

Agree 100%. There is no ADHD in MY very middle class family... I have a mate who is a career doleite, along with his wife. All four of their kids have learning difficulties or ADHD. It doesn't stop them learning the routes and timings of local security guards and how to steal stuff in inventive ways, or learn the ins and outs of the benefits system

Edited by Hedders on Wednesday 24th September 10:15

[Vesuvius 996]

Hedders said:

satchbot said:

All of the kids I've met with ADHD have come from poor backgrounds. All seem to be fed junk food and have parents who don't give a damn. Just an observation...

Agree 100%. There is no ADHD in MY very middle class family... I have a mate who is a career doleite, along with his wife. All four of their kids have learning difficulties or ADHD. It doesn't stop them learning the routes and timings of local security guards and how to steal stuff in inventive ways

Indeed.

When I was a criminal lawyer, I never need a copy of the 1000 page Police and Criminal Evidence Act. All my juvenile clients knew it inside out, despite suffering from learning difficulties.

[ShandyPants]

singlecoil said:

Smae as all taht bolololoclsk abuot dislecksia IHMO

???

Explain please

[MrV]

ShandyPants said:

singlecoil said:

Smae as all taht bolololoclsk abuot dislecksia IHMO

???

Explain please

Wooossshhhhhh

[off_again]

One of my son's good friends has Autism (Ok, its NOT the same thing, but stick with me on this). The teachers are constantly making excuses for this lad and he basically gets away with pretty much anything he wants. The daft thing is that he is actually a really good kid with some fantastic traits - one of the reasons why he has so many good friends, given the condition!

But the interesting part is that this lads peers treat him in virtually the same way was everyone else, yet make allowance for his condition. It is the adults that are the ones that treat him very differently and go some way to creating the situation in the first place.

I am all for inclusive education and working together with these children. What I have a problem with is the exclusion of them, because they are different. We are all different and we all have different views - children included. So why cannot we learn to live with it and get on, rather than being some bloody robot?

[ALawson]

beanbag said:

I keep reading about ADHD all the time, but from my point of view, it's a load of clap-trap and part of the ever-spreading "British disease" symptoms spreading back home.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7630926.stm

When I was a kid, I was a huge hand-full. I used to disrupt classes, speak all the time and generally cause a bit of hassle. Nothing bad...I was just a bit of a cheeky kid.

In "my day", I would have simply been told off and made to behave. Nowadays it seems as though I would have been diagnosed with ADHD and stuffed full of drugs and been treated a little "special", which is bks. Kids can be disruptive. That's their nature! It doesn't affect them in later life....it's just that's the way they are.

For example; I worked out ok. I'm working for a good company with a good wage. I also got a good degree, and now I'm about to get married and perhaps start my own family in a few years. Jeeze! I turned out messed up, didn't I!?

So what is all this bks with ADHD? Perhaps I'm spouting crap, so somebody please enlighten me!!!

Edited by beanbag on Wednesday 24th September 09:49

+1

Could almost be the same summary of mysefl to date.

With a partner who is a treacher I hear a few stories about "these" children some truely have a problem the other see it as leverage to get the drugs. I saw that in the last 10 years the amount of these drugs being dispensed as increased 7 fold.