Lets get the Country back on its feet...
Discussion
Alright boys, girls and trolls,
I've considered posting this thread or similar for a while and following on from an earlier topic find it to be more then worthwhile.
Post your musings on what will bring the United Kingdom back into a polished and defined paradise that it once was. So then what changes will you make? Seeing as this Labour Government have done their very best to f
k it up, but make no changes to rectify it. We all seem to have the answers but they tend to ignore them, whether this be through a lack of small change, or ignorance of the publics needs.
Anyway I'll start:
1. Build more prisons and employ more staff to work in them.
2. Five years imprisonment for anyone stopped carrying a knife without lawful reason (that'll stop the bds).
3. Put more Police on the streets, to the PCSO's that are deserving give them more powers and take away the operational staffs paperwork - give it to civilan office based workers.
4. Take away speed cameras and put traffic officers back onto our nations roads.
5. Cap immigration. Warrant entry into this Country to those who can either a) only benefit the Country or b) whose home country is war torn and in tatters.
6. Binge Drinking, fine them who are causing problems and imprison them involved in booze fuelled violent crime.
7. Licensees to be persistently fined for supplying alcohol to the already inebriated.
8. Benefits to those who only truely need them, not splashed out to all and Sundry. A reward system needs to be in place. For example go to work etc carrying out the minimal wage jobs and you'll get suplemented with a benefit. Take the fat fkers off of their arses and give them incentives.
9. More of these affordable housing schemes - allow the young, hard working types to feel as if they're achieving.
10. Assist those who wish to have a higher education, especially those who wish to carry out full time work and also learn.
11. Bring back the cane - teachers to be given control over their pupils. Ensure that the youngest generation our learning respect, discipline and above all numeracy/literacy skills.
I've considered posting this thread or similar for a while and following on from an earlier topic find it to be more then worthwhile.
Post your musings on what will bring the United Kingdom back into a polished and defined paradise that it once was. So then what changes will you make? Seeing as this Labour Government have done their very best to f
k it up, but make no changes to rectify it. We all seem to have the answers but they tend to ignore them, whether this be through a lack of small change, or ignorance of the publics needs.Anyway I'll start:
1. Build more prisons and employ more staff to work in them.
2. Five years imprisonment for anyone stopped carrying a knife without lawful reason (that'll stop the b
ds). 3. Put more Police on the streets, to the PCSO's that are deserving give them more powers and take away the operational staffs paperwork - give it to civilan office based workers.
4. Take away speed cameras and put traffic officers back onto our nations roads.
5. Cap immigration. Warrant entry into this Country to those who can either a) only benefit the Country or b) whose home country is war torn and in tatters.
6. Binge Drinking, fine them who are causing problems and imprison them involved in booze fuelled violent crime.
7. Licensees to be persistently fined for supplying alcohol to the already inebriated.
8. Benefits to those who only truely need them, not splashed out to all and Sundry. A reward system needs to be in place. For example go to work etc carrying out the minimal wage jobs and you'll get suplemented with a benefit. Take the fat f
kers off of their arses and give them incentives.9. More of these affordable housing schemes - allow the young, hard working types to feel as if they're achieving.
10. Assist those who wish to have a higher education, especially those who wish to carry out full time work and also learn.
11. Bring back the cane - teachers to be given control over their pupils. Ensure that the youngest generation our learning respect, discipline and above all numeracy/literacy skills.
Edited by CosmicMatt on Tuesday 23 September 00:44
CosmicMatt said:
Alright boys, girls and trolls,
I've considered posting this thread or similar for a while and folloing on from an earlier topic find it to be more then worthwhile.
Post your musings on what will bring the United Kingdom back into a polished and defined paradise that it once was. So then what changes will you make? Seeing as this Labour Government have done there very best to fk it up, but make no changes to rectify it. We all seem to have the answers but they tend to ignore then, whether this be through a lack of small change, or ignorance of the publics needs.
Anyway I'll start:
1. Build more prisons and employ more staff to work in them.
2. Five years imprisonment for anyone stopped carrying a knife without lawful reason (that'll stop the bds).
3. Put more Police on the streets, to the PCSO's that are deserving give them more powers and take away the operational staffs paperwork - give it to civilan office based workers.
4. Take away speed cameras and put traffic officers back onto our nations roads.
5. Cap immigration. Warrant entry into this Country to those who can either a) only benefit the Country or b) whose home country is war torn and in tatters.
6. Binge Drinking, fine them who are causing problems and imprison them involved in booze fuelled violent crime.
7. Licensees to be persistently fined for supplying alcohol to the already inebriated.
8. Benefits to those who only truely need them, not splashed out to all and Sundry. A reward system needs to be in place. For example go to work etc carrying out the minimal wage jobs and you'll get suplemented with a benefit. Take the fat fkers off of their arses and give them incentives.
9. More of these affordable housing schemes - allow the young, hard working types to feel as if they're achieving.
10. Assist those who wish to have a higher education, especially those who wish to carry out full time work and also learn.
+1I've considered posting this thread or similar for a while and folloing on from an earlier topic find it to be more then worthwhile.
Post your musings on what will bring the United Kingdom back into a polished and defined paradise that it once was. So then what changes will you make? Seeing as this Labour Government have done there very best to f
k it up, but make no changes to rectify it. We all seem to have the answers but they tend to ignore then, whether this be through a lack of small change, or ignorance of the publics needs.Anyway I'll start:
1. Build more prisons and employ more staff to work in them.
2. Five years imprisonment for anyone stopped carrying a knife without lawful reason (that'll stop the b
ds). 3. Put more Police on the streets, to the PCSO's that are deserving give them more powers and take away the operational staffs paperwork - give it to civilan office based workers.
4. Take away speed cameras and put traffic officers back onto our nations roads.
5. Cap immigration. Warrant entry into this Country to those who can either a) only benefit the Country or b) whose home country is war torn and in tatters.
6. Binge Drinking, fine them who are causing problems and imprison them involved in booze fuelled violent crime.
7. Licensees to be persistently fined for supplying alcohol to the already inebriated.
8. Benefits to those who only truely need them, not splashed out to all and Sundry. A reward system needs to be in place. For example go to work etc carrying out the minimal wage jobs and you'll get suplemented with a benefit. Take the fat f
kers off of their arses and give them incentives.9. More of these affordable housing schemes - allow the young, hard working types to feel as if they're achieving.
10. Assist those who wish to have a higher education, especially those who wish to carry out full time work and also learn.
chris_w666 said:
Basically what Shuvi said, some good ideas taken individually but other areas of public spending would need HUGE trimming back to make any of that viable without chasing the wealthy out of the country with super taxes.
Yes. In any system, change for right or wrong, costs. But capital expenditure?CosmicMatt said:
11. Bring back the cane - teachers to be given control over their pupils. Ensure that the youngest generation our learning respect, discipline and above all numeracy/literacy skills.
I disagree with this point. When I was at primary school (bearing in mind I am only 23, so not too long ago) I was hit by my headmistress, for an error of judgement I made. All it served was to make me pity her.ETA: While I'm here I might as well point out the terribly ironic error in your post. Now, where did I put that cane.....
Edited by Checkmate on Tuesday 23 September 01:41
Edited by Checkmate on Tuesday 23 September 02:04
Checkmate said:
CosmicMatt said:
11. Bring back the cane - teachers to be given control over their pupils. Ensure that the youngest generation our learning respect, discipline and above all numeracy/literacy skills.
I disagree with this point. When I was at primary school (bearing in mind I am only 23, so not too long ago) I was hit by my headmistress, for an error of judgement I made. All it served was to make me pity her.Prime Minister Greenwood's manifesto:
1. All children to the age of 16 go to school. Consistent truancy results in a borstal type system. No work = no food. If they're not academic, from the age of 11/13/similar, they can learn a suitable trade, or at least TRY to study.
2. At the age of 16 you either continue to study, get full time employment, or join the armed forces
3. While we're on the subject of education, that becomes a meritocracy, and subjects are made WAY more difficult and challenging.
4. To leverage (2), role of armed forces to be expanded to include greater internal engineering projects, etc.
5. Use of external consultancy think-tanks by the government to be banned. Government will pay industry-grade wages/packages and hold its own staff to account for ideas/implementation.
6. All those incarcerated in prisons to have to work for their food. No work = no food. Trades to be taught - engineering, etc. such that municipal construction projects don't need to be handed over to profiteering corporates
7. Investment in science and engineering (industrial and academic) on a scale not seen before. (Note: "engineering", not "manufacture").
8. Large-scale migration to nuclear power, including a significant increase in funding to the fusion prototypes. In fact, my government would instigate a team to push for a global commitment to this being a top, funded, priority... none of this half-baked investment in the stuff in France
9. Edit: Size of our government and supporting agencies reduced drastically (Was incorrect as "Size of our public sector reduced drastically." - police/fire/health not to be shrunk!)
10. Some legislation allowing doctors, etc. to do their jobs without fear of a blame-culture and rampant sueing. Kind of goes hand in hand with...
11. ..."Health & Safety" and all other PC topics that are treated as absolutes where no risk can exist are re-evaluated and treated as rational decisions. Great ambitions and great achievements will involve a level of risk and sacrifice. Get over it. (I'm thinking Brunelian scale engineering projects where it's just accepted there'll be, erm, "biological attrition")
12. Some kind of shake up of senior, central government such that those in power have to have some form of industry-proven experience & ability
13. Tying up with the educational meritocracy of (3), meritocracy as a whole becomes "PC". I.e. we change perceptions such that success is applauded
14. The governement is there to protect borders, provide an overall structure and legal framework, and to take on things of scale that could not be achieved by industry. Tiny, pointless legislation is banned.
15. The whole immigration policy is re-evaluated. Need to flesh the details out here, but it would be an open border to those that have work/required skills, with some process created for them gaining work before entry. Probably something akin to the Australian points system. HOWEVER, mass deportation for any freeloaders
16. The welfare state provides a minimal level of support. I.e. it doesn't let people starve or freeze to death, and provides every level of support to those wanting to return to work. Some kind of model also where if you can work, but the job provides less income than state benefits, you have to take it regardless and are "topped up". No job = join the forces. (You might spot a theme here!)
17. Entrepreneurism is encouraged. Tax and corporate legislation is slashed to an absolute minimum with flat-rate taxing as much as is humanly possible. Inward investment in sciences/technology is subsidised
18. Positive discrimination is made as illegal as negative. There is no discrimination full stop.
19. The National Lottery is abolished. Sorry, that's just a personal whim. I hate the culture of "career aspiration: win lottery" that it creates.
20. Public projects are run by public-sector employees with accountability. Not headed-up by Accenture/Cap Gemini/Capita/etc. If the project fails, they're fired. Period.
21. Personal tax is simplified massively. Need to think through the details, but probably a flat rate on income or on consumption/export of funds.
22. Placeholder: Need something seriously doing about pensions. Probably some mass equity-release scheme around property. Kind of alleviates the inheritance tax issue then, too.
More detailed automotive policies given this is PH
1. Road tax is abolished.
2. Lack of MOT is jailable offence
3. Any taxes wished to be raised from driving are done so via fuel duty (i.e. consumption driven)
4. Speed cameras are abolished... however if those cameras can realistically be converted to detect tail-gating then all current speed related fines and punishments go across to tail-gating.
5. NSL raised to 80mph.
6. Amount of needless signage removed
7. Driving test made SIGNIFICANTLY more difficult
8. If any cars are particularly eco-poor (e.g. Toyota Prius and it's green-killing-Li-batteries), then an additional tax is levied on the original sale price.
Sadly, I think the masses have been brainwashed by the media, so none of that would ever get voted for.
* Note: medically justifiable exceptions to (1) and (6) would apply - but NO molly-coddling
1. All children to the age of 16 go to school. Consistent truancy results in a borstal type system. No work = no food. If they're not academic, from the age of 11/13/similar, they can learn a suitable trade, or at least TRY to study.
2. At the age of 16 you either continue to study, get full time employment, or join the armed forces
3. While we're on the subject of education, that becomes a meritocracy, and subjects are made WAY more difficult and challenging.
4. To leverage (2), role of armed forces to be expanded to include greater internal engineering projects, etc.
5. Use of external consultancy think-tanks by the government to be banned. Government will pay industry-grade wages/packages and hold its own staff to account for ideas/implementation.
6. All those incarcerated in prisons to have to work for their food. No work = no food. Trades to be taught - engineering, etc. such that municipal construction projects don't need to be handed over to profiteering corporates
7. Investment in science and engineering (industrial and academic) on a scale not seen before. (Note: "engineering", not "manufacture").
8. Large-scale migration to nuclear power, including a significant increase in funding to the fusion prototypes. In fact, my government would instigate a team to push for a global commitment to this being a top, funded, priority... none of this half-baked investment in the stuff in France
9. Edit: Size of our government and supporting agencies reduced drastically (Was incorrect as "Size of our public sector reduced drastically." - police/fire/health not to be shrunk!)
10. Some legislation allowing doctors, etc. to do their jobs without fear of a blame-culture and rampant sueing. Kind of goes hand in hand with...
11. ..."Health & Safety" and all other PC topics that are treated as absolutes where no risk can exist are re-evaluated and treated as rational decisions. Great ambitions and great achievements will involve a level of risk and sacrifice. Get over it. (I'm thinking Brunelian scale engineering projects where it's just accepted there'll be, erm, "biological attrition")
12. Some kind of shake up of senior, central government such that those in power have to have some form of industry-proven experience & ability
13. Tying up with the educational meritocracy of (3), meritocracy as a whole becomes "PC". I.e. we change perceptions such that success is applauded
14. The governement is there to protect borders, provide an overall structure and legal framework, and to take on things of scale that could not be achieved by industry. Tiny, pointless legislation is banned.
15. The whole immigration policy is re-evaluated. Need to flesh the details out here, but it would be an open border to those that have work/required skills, with some process created for them gaining work before entry. Probably something akin to the Australian points system. HOWEVER, mass deportation for any freeloaders
16. The welfare state provides a minimal level of support. I.e. it doesn't let people starve or freeze to death, and provides every level of support to those wanting to return to work. Some kind of model also where if you can work, but the job provides less income than state benefits, you have to take it regardless and are "topped up". No job = join the forces. (You might spot a theme here!)
17. Entrepreneurism is encouraged. Tax and corporate legislation is slashed to an absolute minimum with flat-rate taxing as much as is humanly possible. Inward investment in sciences/technology is subsidised
18. Positive discrimination is made as illegal as negative. There is no discrimination full stop.
19. The National Lottery is abolished. Sorry, that's just a personal whim. I hate the culture of "career aspiration: win lottery" that it creates.
20. Public projects are run by public-sector employees with accountability. Not headed-up by Accenture/Cap Gemini/Capita/etc. If the project fails, they're fired. Period.
21. Personal tax is simplified massively. Need to think through the details, but probably a flat rate on income or on consumption/export of funds.
22. Placeholder: Need something seriously doing about pensions. Probably some mass equity-release scheme around property. Kind of alleviates the inheritance tax issue then, too.
More detailed automotive policies given this is PH
1. Road tax is abolished.
2. Lack of MOT is jailable offence
3. Any taxes wished to be raised from driving are done so via fuel duty (i.e. consumption driven)
4. Speed cameras are abolished... however if those cameras can realistically be converted to detect tail-gating then all current speed related fines and punishments go across to tail-gating.
5. NSL raised to 80mph.
6. Amount of needless signage removed
7. Driving test made SIGNIFICANTLY more difficult
8. If any cars are particularly eco-poor (e.g. Toyota Prius and it's green-killing-Li-batteries), then an additional tax is levied on the original sale price.
Sadly, I think the masses have been brainwashed by the media, so none of that would ever get voted for.
* Note: medically justifiable exceptions to (1) and (6) would apply - but NO molly-coddling
Edited by J_S_G on Tuesday 23 September 01:43
J_S_G said:
Prime Minister Greenwood's manifesto:
1. All children to the age of 16 go to school. Consistent truancy results in a borstal type system. No work = no food. If they're not academic, from the age of 11/13/similar, they can learn a suitable trade, or at least TRY to study.
2. At the age of 16 you either continue to study, get full time employment, or join the armed forces
3. While we're on the subject of education, that becomes a meritocracy, and subjects are made WAY more difficult and challenging.
4. To leverage (2), role of armed forces to be expanded to include greater internal engineering projects, etc.
5. Use of external consultancy think-tanks by the government to be banned. Government will pay industry-grade wages/packages and hold its own staff to account for ideas/implementation.
6. All those incarcerated in prisons to have to work for their food. No work = no food. Trades to be taught - engineering, etc. such that municipal construction projects don't need to be handed over to profiteering corporates
7. Investment in science and engineering (industrial and academic) on a scale not seen before. (Note: "engineering", not "manufacture").
8. Large-scale migration to nuclear power, including a significant increase in funding to the fusion prototypes. In fact, my government would instigate a team to push for a global commitment to this being a top, funded, priority... none of this half-baked investment in the stuff in France
9. Size of our public sector reduced drastically.
10. Some legislation allowing doctors, etc. to do their jobs without fear of a blame-culture and rampant sueing. Kind of goes hand in hand with...
11. ..."Health & Safety" and all other PC topics that are treated as absolutes where no risk can exist are re-evaluated and treated as rational decisions. Great ambitions and great achievements will involve a level of risk and sacrifice. Get over it. (I'm thinking Brunelian scale engineering projects where it's just accepted there'll be, erm, "biological attrition")
12. Some kind of shake up of senior, central government such that those in power have to have some form of industry-proven experience & ability
13. Tying up with the educational meritocracy of (3), meritocracy as a whole becomes "PC". I.e. we change perceptions such that success is applauded
14. The governement is there to protect borders, provide an overall structure and legal framework, and to take on things of scale that could not be achieved by industry. Tiny, pointless legislation is banned.
15. The whole immigration policy is re-evaluated. Need to flesh the details out here, but it would be an open border to those that have work/required skills, with some process created for them gaining work before entry. Probably something akin to the Australian points system. HOWEVER, mass deportation for any freeloaders
16. The welfare state provides a minimal level of support. I.e. it doesn't let people starve or freeze to death, and provides every level of support to those wanting to return to work. Some kind of model also where if you can work, but the job provides less income than state benefits, you have to take it regardless and are "topped up". No job = join the forces. (You might spot a theme here!)
17. Entrepreneurism is encouraged. Tax and corporate legislation is slashed to an absolute minimum with flat-rate taxing as much as is humanly possible. Inward investment in sciences/technology is subsidised
18. Positive discrimination is made as illegal as negative. There is no discrimination full stop.
19. The National Lottery is abolished. Sorry, that's just a personal whim. I hate the culture of "career aspiration: win lottery" that it creates.
20. Public projects are run by public-sector employees with accountability. Not headed-up by Accenture/Cap Gemini/Capita/etc. If the project fails, they're fired. Period.
21. Personal tax is simplified massively. Need to think through the details, but probably a flat rate on income or on consumption/export of funds.
22. Placeholder: Need something seriously doing about pensions. Probably some mass equity-release scheme around property. Kind of alleviates the inheritance tax issue then, too.
More detailed automotive policies given this is PH
1. Road tax is abolished.
2. Lack of MOT is jailable offence
3. Any taxes wished to be raised from driving are done so via fuel duty (i.e. consumption driven)
4. Speed cameras are abolished... however if those cameras can realistically be converted to detect tail-gating then all current speed related fines and punishments go across to tail-gating.
5. NSL raised to 80mph.
6. Amount of needless signage removed
7. Driving test made SIGNIFICANTLY more difficult
8. If any cars are particularly eco-poor (e.g. Toyota Prius and it's green-killing-Li-batteries), then an additional tax is levied on the original sale price.
Sadly, I think the masses have been brainwashed by the media, so none of that would ever get voted for.
* Note: medically justifiable exceptions to (1) and (6) would apply - but NO molly-coddling
Do you wear a tinfoil hat?1. All children to the age of 16 go to school. Consistent truancy results in a borstal type system. No work = no food. If they're not academic, from the age of 11/13/similar, they can learn a suitable trade, or at least TRY to study.
2. At the age of 16 you either continue to study, get full time employment, or join the armed forces
3. While we're on the subject of education, that becomes a meritocracy, and subjects are made WAY more difficult and challenging.
4. To leverage (2), role of armed forces to be expanded to include greater internal engineering projects, etc.
5. Use of external consultancy think-tanks by the government to be banned. Government will pay industry-grade wages/packages and hold its own staff to account for ideas/implementation.
6. All those incarcerated in prisons to have to work for their food. No work = no food. Trades to be taught - engineering, etc. such that municipal construction projects don't need to be handed over to profiteering corporates
7. Investment in science and engineering (industrial and academic) on a scale not seen before. (Note: "engineering", not "manufacture").
8. Large-scale migration to nuclear power, including a significant increase in funding to the fusion prototypes. In fact, my government would instigate a team to push for a global commitment to this being a top, funded, priority... none of this half-baked investment in the stuff in France
9. Size of our public sector reduced drastically.
10. Some legislation allowing doctors, etc. to do their jobs without fear of a blame-culture and rampant sueing. Kind of goes hand in hand with...
11. ..."Health & Safety" and all other PC topics that are treated as absolutes where no risk can exist are re-evaluated and treated as rational decisions. Great ambitions and great achievements will involve a level of risk and sacrifice. Get over it. (I'm thinking Brunelian scale engineering projects where it's just accepted there'll be, erm, "biological attrition")
12. Some kind of shake up of senior, central government such that those in power have to have some form of industry-proven experience & ability
13. Tying up with the educational meritocracy of (3), meritocracy as a whole becomes "PC". I.e. we change perceptions such that success is applauded
14. The governement is there to protect borders, provide an overall structure and legal framework, and to take on things of scale that could not be achieved by industry. Tiny, pointless legislation is banned.
15. The whole immigration policy is re-evaluated. Need to flesh the details out here, but it would be an open border to those that have work/required skills, with some process created for them gaining work before entry. Probably something akin to the Australian points system. HOWEVER, mass deportation for any freeloaders
16. The welfare state provides a minimal level of support. I.e. it doesn't let people starve or freeze to death, and provides every level of support to those wanting to return to work. Some kind of model also where if you can work, but the job provides less income than state benefits, you have to take it regardless and are "topped up". No job = join the forces. (You might spot a theme here!)
17. Entrepreneurism is encouraged. Tax and corporate legislation is slashed to an absolute minimum with flat-rate taxing as much as is humanly possible. Inward investment in sciences/technology is subsidised
18. Positive discrimination is made as illegal as negative. There is no discrimination full stop.
19. The National Lottery is abolished. Sorry, that's just a personal whim. I hate the culture of "career aspiration: win lottery" that it creates.
20. Public projects are run by public-sector employees with accountability. Not headed-up by Accenture/Cap Gemini/Capita/etc. If the project fails, they're fired. Period.
21. Personal tax is simplified massively. Need to think through the details, but probably a flat rate on income or on consumption/export of funds.
22. Placeholder: Need something seriously doing about pensions. Probably some mass equity-release scheme around property. Kind of alleviates the inheritance tax issue then, too.
More detailed automotive policies given this is PH
1. Road tax is abolished.
2. Lack of MOT is jailable offence
3. Any taxes wished to be raised from driving are done so via fuel duty (i.e. consumption driven)
4. Speed cameras are abolished... however if those cameras can realistically be converted to detect tail-gating then all current speed related fines and punishments go across to tail-gating.
5. NSL raised to 80mph.
6. Amount of needless signage removed
7. Driving test made SIGNIFICANTLY more difficult
8. If any cars are particularly eco-poor (e.g. Toyota Prius and it's green-killing-Li-batteries), then an additional tax is levied on the original sale price.
Sadly, I think the masses have been brainwashed by the media, so none of that would ever get voted for.
* Note: medically justifiable exceptions to (1) and (6) would apply - but NO molly-coddling
I hit return too early?
I ask because:
9. Size of our public sector reduced drastically.
Well, you figure it out.
Oh. What(1) are(2} the numbers(3)}?. C and P is it?
Edited by Shuvi on Tuesday 23 September 01:37
Edited by Shuvi on Tuesday 23 September 01:42
Shuvi said:
Do you wear a tinfoil hat?
Yes, it accentuates my jaw line well. I wouldn't make it compulsory for all inhabitants of this once fair isle, though. Seriously, though, I don't spot any conspiracy-theorist-claptrap in what I just wrote. Bit hard line for some, perhaps, but I don't see why anybody should get a free ride, and it I always try to use the measure of "If we regressed to the 90,000+ years of hunter-gatherer human history with a bit of subsistence farming thrown in instead of modern society, would people have it any easier?"
One thing I missed - putting in a load of stuff to rebuild community spirit and that whole "accountability in the community" thing that's lost with the anonymous urban sprawl.
Shuvi said:
I ask because:
9. Size of our public sector reduced drastically.
Well, you figure it out.
Ah, gotcha. Still don't see gang-probing black-ops helicopters-at-dawn tendencies with that. Think I maybe phrased that a bit hastily given the hour! What I meant was the bureaucratic burden and size of government, not the public sector at large. Sorry.9. Size of our public sector reduced drastically.
Well, you figure it out.
bilko2 said:
1/ Enforce the laws we already have
Indeed.The idea that we should change everything, rightly or otherwise, is complete madness - in the short term.
Very little used to done legally/politically to change things because information for the masses was unavailable and Noblesse oblige.
Today EVERYONE wants politics and the law to respond to their wishes immediately... Oh, unless it is something they don't agree with, in which case it's, 'knee jerk politics' or 'buying votes'.
Shuvi said:
bilko2 said:
1/ Enforce the laws we already have
Indeed.a) Specifically pick the top ones to enforce and make the public aware. Especially given that people generally don't know what is/isn't illegal with the amount of law there is
or b) Just free up the police to use discretion in enforcing laws appropriately. Abolish the targets, and the meddling with pet crimes. (As opposed to "pet related crimes"
)I think (b) is more likely to succeed. But you'd have to accept the fact there'll be some corruption in the police just as there is in society at large. And just get over it.
Shuvi said:
Bilko 2 said:
Just free up the police to use discretion in enforcing laws appropriately
I think it is the ONE thing that is vital to the future of a healthy society.
Ya quoted the wrong person, though.
Benifits limited to the amount of tax you have paid.
Single young mothers can stay with their parents. Think what that would save.
Tax system should be made fairer, it costs no more for them to empty my bin than someone who is out of work. Metaphorical example.
All finance requires 25% deposit, cars and houses included.
Credit cards should be geared to income, charge cards for those that don't qualify.
Get people off their asses away from computer keyboards and internet forums.
OK just the first few.
Single young mothers can stay with their parents. Think what that would save.
Tax system should be made fairer, it costs no more for them to empty my bin than someone who is out of work. Metaphorical example.
All finance requires 25% deposit, cars and houses included.
Credit cards should be geared to income, charge cards for those that don't qualify.
Get people off their asses away from computer keyboards and internet forums.
OK just the first few.
Edited by jeff m on Tuesday 23 September 04:48
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