Leave plasterboard ceiling unskimmed in garage?
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I am halfway through pimping my garage at the moment; putting all the junk in the skip, painting the walls and floors, ejecting all the spiders, and generally tidying it up so it is a pleasant place to work on my cars!
I would like to board the ceiling as it will make it lighter in there, and I hope it will also reduce the amount of dust that ends up on the cars. I can do the work myself, and grab some old board from work so it will cost bugger all to do . . . but getting it skimmed (18' x 18') will cost two or three hundred quid which I would rather spend on petrol!
If I leave it unskimmed, will it still last OK or does the plaster protect the board from moisture in the air etc?
I would like to board the ceiling as it will make it lighter in there, and I hope it will also reduce the amount of dust that ends up on the cars. I can do the work myself, and grab some old board from work so it will cost bugger all to do . . . but getting it skimmed (18' x 18') will cost two or three hundred quid which I would rather spend on petrol!
If I leave it unskimmed, will it still last OK or does the plaster protect the board from moisture in the air etc?
aww999 said:
I am halfway through pimping my garage at the moment; putting all the junk in the skip, painting the walls and floors, ejecting all the spiders, and generally tidying it up so it is a pleasant place to work on my cars!
I would like to board the ceiling as it will make it lighter in there, and I hope it will also reduce the amount of dust that ends up on the cars. I can do the work myself, and grab some old board from work so it will cost bugger all to do . . . but getting it skimmed (18' x 18') will cost two or three hundred quid which I would rather spend on petrol!
If I leave it unskimmed, will it still last OK or does the plaster protect the board from moisture in the air etc?
Buy plasterboard with the chamfered/angled edges, screw the plasterboard within the chamfered section, buy some filler and skim over the joints (if you do it carefully you wont see it), and then give it a coat of paint to keep the moisture out.I would like to board the ceiling as it will make it lighter in there, and I hope it will also reduce the amount of dust that ends up on the cars. I can do the work myself, and grab some old board from work so it will cost bugger all to do . . . but getting it skimmed (18' x 18') will cost two or three hundred quid which I would rather spend on petrol!
If I leave it unskimmed, will it still last OK or does the plaster protect the board from moisture in the air etc?
Plaster does not protect the board but if your garage is under your house it might be a requirement to tape and fill the joints for fire protection of the joist's above. However if the joists were exposed in the first instance then it wont be a problem.
Doesnt hurt to run some filler down the joints anyway and give it a lick of paint.
Doesnt hurt to run some filler down the joints anyway and give it a lick of paint.
nig-gtv said:
aww999 said:
I am halfway through pimping my garage at the moment; putting all the junk in the skip, painting the walls and floors, ejecting all the spiders, and generally tidying it up so it is a pleasant place to work on my cars!
I would like to board the ceiling as it will make it lighter in there, and I hope it will also reduce the amount of dust that ends up on the cars. I can do the work myself, and grab some old board from work so it will cost bugger all to do . . . but getting it skimmed (18' x 18') will cost two or three hundred quid which I would rather spend on petrol!
If I leave it unskimmed, will it still last OK or does the plaster protect the board from moisture in the air etc?
Buy plasterboard with the chamfered/angled edges, screw the plasterboard within the chamfered section, buy some filler and skim over the joints (if you do it carefully you wont see it), and then give it a coat of paint to keep the moisture out.I would like to board the ceiling as it will make it lighter in there, and I hope it will also reduce the amount of dust that ends up on the cars. I can do the work myself, and grab some old board from work so it will cost bugger all to do . . . but getting it skimmed (18' x 18') will cost two or three hundred quid which I would rather spend on petrol!
If I leave it unskimmed, will it still last OK or does the plaster protect the board from moisture in the air etc?
[quote=s,one]Plaster does not protect the board but if your garage is under your house it might be a requirement to tape and fill the joints for fire protection of the joist's above. However if the joists were exposed in the first instance then it wont be a problem.
Doesnt hurt to run some filler down the joints anyway and give it a lick of paint.
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It's an external double garage that is not connected to the house and has nothing above it, so that won't be a problem (fortunately!).
Doesnt hurt to run some filler down the joints anyway and give it a lick of paint.
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It's an external double garage that is not connected to the house and has nothing above it, so that won't be a problem (fortunately!).
aww999 said:
I would like to board the ceiling as it will make it lighter in there...
Please forgive the selective quoting, but I'm not getting this bit. Lighter? How? I'd be tempted to just make the most of the height that you have. Put more lighting up there, where you can't trip over it all. You may need/want to paint a few extra square feet of wall, but if you have the roller out why not?
[quote=s,one]Plaster does not protect the board but if your garage is under your house it might be a requirement to tape and fill the joints for fire protection of the joist's above. However if the joists were exposed in the first instance then it wont be a problem.
Doesnt hurt to run some filler down the joints anyway and give it a lick of paint.
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If that's the case he'll need to use fireboard.
Doesnt hurt to run some filler down the joints anyway and give it a lick of paint.
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If that's the case he'll need to use fireboard.
nig-gtv said:
Buy plasterboard with the chamfered/angled edges, screw the plasterboard within the chamfered section, buy some filler and skim over the joints (if you do it carefully you wont see it), and then give it a coat of paint to keep the moisture out.
This man talks sense. I've seen this done so well, I thought it had been skimmed. It's remarkably easy to do to, given a bit of practice.groucho said:
sone said:
Plaster does not protect the board but if your garage is under your house it might be a requirement to tape and fill the joints for fire protection of the joist's above. However if the joists were exposed in the first instance then it wont be a problem.
Doesnt hurt to run some filler down the joints anyway and give it a lick of paint.
If that's the case he'll need to use fireboard.Doesnt hurt to run some filler down the joints anyway and give it a lick of paint.
Put two layers of 12.5mm wallboard with staggered joints, scrim and paint. Should give you the required 1/2 hour so long as everything is properly tight etc.
Combover said:
groucho said:
sone said:
Plaster does not protect the board but if your garage is under your house it might be a requirement to tape and fill the joints for fire protection of the joist's above. However if the joists were exposed in the first instance then it wont be a problem.
Doesnt hurt to run some filler down the joints anyway and give it a lick of paint.
If that's the case he'll need to use fireboard.Doesnt hurt to run some filler down the joints anyway and give it a lick of paint.
Put two layers of 12.5mm wallboard with staggered joints, scrim and paint. Should give you the required 1/2 hour so long as everything is properly tight etc.
Didn't see thatSingle skin plasterboard (standard stuff) 12.5mm will give 30 min protection.
In this instance, becuase its external best use moisture resistant.
In this instance, becuase its external best use moisture resistant.
groucho said:
[quote=s,one]Plaster does not protect the board but if your garage is under your house it might be a requirement to tape and fill the joints for fire protection of the joist's above. However if the joists were exposed in the first instance then it wont be a problem.
Doesnt hurt to run some filler down the joints anyway and give it a lick of paint.
If that's the case he'll need to use fireboard.Doesnt hurt to run some filler down the joints anyway and give it a lick of paint.
Yep, I'd just go for 1 layer of 12.5mm board, perhaps with the moisture protectant (usually kind of greeny coloured instead of grey) - though if you paint it you'll probably get away without it. The scrim mentioned above is a strip of mesh (cotton or similar) that you put over the joints before you skim them with filler. Again, pretty easy.
When you've filled the gaps and it's dried you can flat it off before painting, with some fairly smooth sandpaper - being careful not to rip the plasterboard coating. All depends how much of a perfectionist you are....it is only a garage after all! Definitely no need to get the whole thing skimmed.
When you've filled the gaps and it's dried you can flat it off before painting, with some fairly smooth sandpaper - being careful not to rip the plasterboard coating. All depends how much of a perfectionist you are....it is only a garage after all! Definitely no need to get the whole thing skimmed.
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