Windfall Tax on utilities?
Discussion
Yugguy said:
Ok, I don't get it.
Power companies are making millions AND putting prices up. So the government wants to impose a windfall tax. How will more money going into the govt coffers help the consumers? Shirley the legislation should be to bring the prices down?
It's not meant to help the consumer, is it?Power companies are making millions AND putting prices up. So the government wants to impose a windfall tax. How will more money going into the govt coffers help the consumers? Shirley the legislation should be to bring the prices down?
groucho said:
Yugguy said:
Ok, I don't get it.
Power companies are making millions AND putting prices up. So the government wants to impose a windfall tax. How will more money going into the govt coffers help the consumers? Shirley the legislation should be to bring the prices down?
It's not meant to help the consumer, is it?Power companies are making millions AND putting prices up. So the government wants to impose a windfall tax. How will more money going into the govt coffers help the consumers? Shirley the legislation should be to bring the prices down?
IMO altho I'm a small-c conservative I think certain things should be kept public, transport (bus/rail) and utilities for instance. They could still be run efficiently, and I think PPP is utter b
ks.I asked something similar a while ago http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
It just makes me want to shout at the news.
It just makes me want to shout at the news.
It's their usual Communist tactic of getting the 'Plebs' riled up - worked with 'Taxing gas'guzzling' 4x4's off the road, with the great unwashed never stopping to think that their little 1.8 would be in the same bracket - too blinded by hate and envy of others. same with the windfall tax - nothing to do with helping the most needy, and everything to do with ensuring the government has enough to continue paying benefits to their voters - who are way too thick to realise they won't benefit one jot from a windfall tax from a totally above board private company. However, it reads like 'us against them', which is what the Communist UK government is all about, and they'll get away with it.
It's akin to 'mob rule', not much different from Nero persecuting the Christians, blaming them for his own shortcomings, and of course, the majority go along with it because they think the persecuted are better off than them, and determined to bring them all down to their gutter level.
Perhaps the Tories ought to have an anti Classism bill.....
It's akin to 'mob rule', not much different from Nero persecuting the Christians, blaming them for his own shortcomings, and of course, the majority go along with it because they think the persecuted are better off than them, and determined to bring them all down to their gutter level.
Perhaps the Tories ought to have an anti Classism bill.....
Edited by chris watton on Wednesday 10th September 12:40
Yugguy said:
IMO altho I'm a small-c conservative I think certain things should be kept public, transport (bus/rail) and utilities for instance. They could still be run efficiently, and I think PPP is utter bks.
Immediate transfer of all utilities to government ownership.ks.hey ho, we own the water again, the gas, the electricity and possibly even the waste collection.
UK shareholders get their stake back. Companies are run by same CEO's as today, but on a bonus for minimising cost, and profit.
Buy cheap, supply cheap. Consumer happy.
surely the best policy would have been to keep the utility companies in National ownership.
These public companies run the services and make a profit so why could the Gov't not run the exact same service and either use the profits to off set the tax liability of all of us of run it at a break even point?
These public companies run the services and make a profit so why could the Gov't not run the exact same service and either use the profits to off set the tax liability of all of us of run it at a break even point?
chris watton said:
It's their usual Communist tactic of getting the 'Plebs' riled up - worked with 'Taxing gas'guzzling' 4x4's off the road, with the great unwashed never stopping to think that their little 1.8 would be in the same bracket - too blinded by hate and envy of others. same with the windfall tax - nothing to do with helping the most needy, and everything to do with ensuring the government has enough to continue paying benefits to their voters - who are way too thick to realise they won't benefit one jot from a windfall tax from a totally above board private company. However, it reads like 'us against them', which is what the Communist UK government is all about, and they'll get away with it.
And also a way of deflecting blame for rising domestic fuel bills onto rapacious utility companies rather than the governments lack of a proper energy policy these last 10 years plus the renewables obligation. odyssey2200 said:
surely the best policy would have been to keep the utility companies in National ownership.
These public companies run the services and make a profit so why could the Gov't not run the exact same service and either use the profits to off set the tax liability of all of us of run it at a break even point?
These public companies run the services and make a profit so why could the Gov't not run the exact same service and either use the profits to off set the tax liability of all of us of run it at a break even point?
yes, because the government are so good and successful at running stuff!!!fadeaway said:
odyssey2200 said:
surely the best policy would have been to keep the utility companies in National ownership.
These public companies run the services and make a profit so why could the Gov't not run the exact same service and either use the profits to off set the tax liability of all of us of run it at a break even point?
These public companies run the services and make a profit so why could the Gov't not run the exact same service and either use the profits to off set the tax liability of all of us of run it at a break even point?
yes, because the government are so good and successful at running stuff!!!Hence why the track stuff was efectively re-nationalised in all but name, at huge extra cost due to 20 years of neglect.
To me it seems that the Gov is asking utility companies to pay them some money, so they can then afford to knock up a £10 off campaign telling people they need to lag their lofts. And those with period properties, those sash windows need to be replaced with double glazing.
If I was boss of Eon or similar I'd tell them to go fk themselves and go back to counting my money, which is what I think's happened
If I was boss of Eon or similar I'd tell them to go f
k themselves and go back to counting my money, which is what I think's happenedDisco_Dale said:
fadeaway said:
odyssey2200 said:
surely the best policy would have been to keep the utility companies in National ownership.
These public companies run the services and make a profit so why could the Gov't not run the exact same service and either use the profits to off set the tax liability of all of us of run it at a break even point?
These public companies run the services and make a profit so why could the Gov't not run the exact same service and either use the profits to off set the tax liability of all of us of run it at a break even point?
yes, because the government are so good and successful at running stuff!!!Hence why the track stuff was efectively re-nationalised in all but name, at huge extra cost due to 20 years of neglect.
Disco_Dale said:
fadeaway said:
odyssey2200 said:
surely the best policy would have been to keep the utility companies in National ownership.
These public companies run the services and make a profit so why could the Gov't not run the exact same service and either use the profits to off set the tax liability of all of us of run it at a break even point?
These public companies run the services and make a profit so why could the Gov't not run the exact same service and either use the profits to off set the tax liability of all of us of run it at a break even point?
yes, because the government are so good and successful at running stuff!!!Hence why the track stuff was efectively re-nationalised in all but name, at huge extra cost due to 20 years of neglect.
Unfortunately the Tories felt that they had to break it up to make it difficult for the socialists to re-nationalise.
Yugguy said:
Ok, I don't get it.
Power companies are making millions AND putting prices up. So the government wants to impose a windfall tax. How will more money going into the govt coffers help the consumers? Shirley the legislation should be to bring the prices down?
The Government is too stupid to control the utilities. Second rate history graduates versus cunning experienced businessmen = no chance. Hence they can only act retrospectively and impotently.Power companies are making millions AND putting prices up. So the government wants to impose a windfall tax. How will more money going into the govt coffers help the consumers? Shirley the legislation should be to bring the prices down?
If I was running Megabux Power and got done for an unexpected £billion tax bill, I'd simply increase my prices to recoup my margin. And so the taxpayer still loses. Always loses, and always will.
fadeaway said:
odyssey2200 said:
surely the best policy would have been to keep the utility companies in National ownership.
These public companies run the services and make a profit so why could the Gov't not run the exact same service and either use the profits to off set the tax liability of all of us of run it at a break even point?
These public companies run the services and make a profit so why could the Gov't not run the exact same service and either use the profits to off set the tax liability of all of us of run it at a break even point?
yes, because the government are so good and successful at running stuff!!!
All we need to do is to introduce accountability into Local authorities as there would be in the private sector.
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