Why do i have codensation on my windows at home !!!
Why do i have codensation on my windows at home !!!
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gti-ted

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1,029 posts

239 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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General question guy's

My house is approx 8 years old and has wooden window frames with double glazing.
Now all of the seals between the window panes have blown over the last 3 years and have condensation in between the panes. I noticed that throughout the winter last year that every morning there was condensation on the inside of all of our occupied bedroom windows which i put down to the poor seals.

Now i have recently had all of the glass replaced with brand new double glazed units fully sealed etc and this morning i wake up to bloody condensation on the inside panes again FFS. I checked the daughters rooms and its the same story there.
Can anyone tell me why this is happening as it's getting right on my titsfuriousand how can i prevent it from happening.

Any sensible answers will be greatly received

Ted

Edited by gti-ted on Wednesday 10th September 10:51

spikeyhead

20,554 posts

227 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Open the windows to let the moisture out and some fresh air in.

Hoppy2008

2,496 posts

225 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Did you happen to see the Milkman legging it through your front door when you came downstairs this morning?

N1CK

5,588 posts

251 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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needs more ventilation!

Morningside

24,147 posts

259 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Have you tried a de-humidifier?

Checked your outside wall. are your ventilation blocks clear? If the soil level below the moisture barrier?

We had this all the time at our last property.

Bungleaio

6,589 posts

232 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Even though the windows are quite efficient they will still be cooler than everything else hence condensation will form. It will be worse in bedrooms especcially if the doors are shut at night due to the moisture content in the air that is breathed out. If you have trickle vents on your windows make sure they are open all the time, it will help the situation.

Davi

17,153 posts

250 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Lack of ventilation, excess moisture or excessive temperature difference are about the long and short of it.

hugoagogo

23,438 posts

263 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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spikeyhead said:
Open the windows to let the moisture out and some fresh air in.
^this, at least once a day

the fresh cool dry air doesn't take long to warm up again either

stuttgartmetal

8,164 posts

246 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Davi said:
Lack of ventilation, excess moisture or excessive temperature difference are about the long and short of it.
+1

TheEnd

15,370 posts

218 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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gti-ted said:
i wake up to bloody condensation on the inside panes again FFS. I checked the daughters rooms and its the same story there.
it's crappy windows, go back to the fitter and tell them.
it can happen a lot on leaded windows that face the sun, the insides heat and cool and draw in moisture, where can't escape easy.

i had a theory of drilling the glass a couple of time to allow for a little bit of circulation, see if that works, can't be any worse!

NikB

1,835 posts

295 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Aren't sealed units meant to have a gas in them that keeps the moisture out? That's probably leaked out.

tvrtim

438 posts

292 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Can we put this one to bed.
If you are getting condensation BETWEEN the two panes of glass which comprise the sealed units the sealed unit has broken down and is scrap.
If you are getting condensation on the glass INSIDE the room (ie you can wipe it off)it is caused, as already stated, by LACK of ventilation.
Sealed units fitted into timber window frames will not have a long life due to the fact that most timber frames have no means of drainage.
The majority of sealed units DO NOT have any gas in them, they are just sealed.It is NOT a vacuum.
Hope this helps.

Edited by tvrtim on Wednesday 10th September 11:28

gti-ted

Original Poster:

1,029 posts

239 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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NikB said:
Aren't sealed units meant to have a gas in them that keeps the moisture out? That's probably leaked out.
The units are fine the condensation is on the inside pane

AngryS3Owner

15,855 posts

259 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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And condensation on the outside of the windows is a new giggle if your units are coated and working right!

Wings

5,970 posts

245 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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tvrtim said:
Can we put this one to bed.
If you are getting condensation BETWEEN the two panes of glass which comprise the sealed units the sealed unit has broken down and is scrap.
If you are getting condensation on the glass INSIDE the room (ie you can wipe it off)it is caused, as already stated, by LACK of ventilation.
Sealed units fitted into timber window frames will not have a long life due to the fact that most timber frames have no means of drainage.
Correct, to the OP, either replace the windows or do away with double glazed units in the timber frames.

stuttgartmetal

8,164 posts

246 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Can we put this all firmly to bed, before a load of dis-information is posted?

Try boiling a kettle up for a few minutes near the glass when its raining outside.
This will tell you if its condensation, from the kettle, or not.

Fer

7,775 posts

310 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Have you got the latest Service Pack installed? And is this XP or Vista? paperbag

Wings

5,970 posts

245 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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stuttgartmetal said:
Can we put this all firmly to bed, before a load of dis-information is posted?

Try boiling a kettle up for a few minutes near the glass when its raining outside.
This will tell you if its condensation, from the kettle, or not.
My home, just 20 years old, has timber double glazed windows, have had the same problems that the OP posted, condensation and the seals braking down. Some of the windows unit have broken down 2 & 3 times in the same window. The advice I have received is to change the timber framed windows, since no guarantee can be given on double glazed units going into the present (timber) frames.






stuttgartmetal

8,164 posts

246 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Wings said:
stuttgartmetal said:
Can we put this all firmly to bed, before a load of dis-information is posted?

Try boiling a kettle up for a few minutes near the glass when its raining outside.
This will tell you if its condensation, from the kettle, or not.
My home, just 20 years old, has timber double glazed windows, have had the same problems that the OP posted, condensation and the seals braking down. Some of the windows unit have broken down 2 & 3 times in the same window. The advice I have received is to change the timber framed windows, since no guarantee can be given on double glazed units going into the present (timber) frames.
I heartily concur.
Ive found almost 100% of timber frames are made of wood.
And that if the window is wide open, even with a kettle boiling next to it, hardly any condensate, condensates on the glass.
it is of course completely different in a swimming pool.

jeff m

4,066 posts

288 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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It's basic physics.
Inside is warmer than outside, add excess humidity.....condensation.

Try lowering your thermostat at night that may help.
General air circulation within the house can help. Bedroom doors kept closed during the day ???? open them.

Buy a hygrometer (I think that's the correct name)