warning on cracking toyo r888´s below zero degrees
warning on cracking toyo r888´s below zero degrees
Author
Discussion

bencollins

Original Poster:

3,574 posts

236 months

bogie

17,100 posts

303 months

Saturday 23rd August 2008
quotequote all
yeah, an arse covering exercise...I mean R888s and A048s were hardly designed for winter (sub zero) use wink

900T-R

20,406 posts

288 months

Saturday 23rd August 2008
quotequote all
Ta for that - the Saab wears R1Rs all year round... eek

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

258 months

Saturday 23rd August 2008
quotequote all
Apparently a lot of 'summer' tyres will suffer at low temperatures - I read an article in Octane earlier this year that reckoned on 7 degrees IIRC. I'm sure there's a tyre expert out there that can clarify whether this is the case or go into more depth on the science.

Redlake27

2,255 posts

275 months

Saturday 23rd August 2008
quotequote all
Kevin

The seven degrees debate is about whether the typical compound of a 'summer' tyre is as effective as it could be at lower winter temperatures.

Or to turn that around, to communicate the fact that a winter tyre is not a 'snow' tyre, but a tyre that has a compound optimised for temperatures under 7 degrees - even in the dry. This is very important in some central European and Scandanavian countries where winter tyres are common-place. In the UK, our milder and wet winters have really made it difficult to sell the concept of winter tyres. When it gets really cold, we just stop working instead!

The 7 degrees relates to optimium performance, not issues of construction 'cracking'.

Regards
James Bailey
Goodyear Dunlop

ps: This advice comes with a product plug. I'm using Goodyear Eagle F1s on my Europa - if anyone wants a true all-weather tyre for their Lotus they are awesome in the wet! The Europa is 195/45R17 235/45R17 rear, but I wonder if anyone has experimented with 195/45R16 F1s on the Elise S2? We may run this test ourselves. BTW, The F1s are now OE fitment from Lotus on the 2008 Europa SE following testing.

Thorburn

2,447 posts

224 months

Saturday 23rd August 2008
quotequote all
Redlake27 said:
ps: This advice comes with a product plug. I'm using Goodyear Eagle F1s on my Europa - if anyone wants a true all-weather tyre for their Lotus they are awesome in the wet! The Europa is 195/45R17 235/45R17 rear, but I wonder if anyone has experimented with 195/45R16 F1s on the Elise S2? We may run this test ourselves. BTW, The F1s are now OE fitment from Lotus on the 2008 Europa SE following testing.
I found the Eagle F1 GSD2's to be brilliant on my MX-5, but a lack of people having tried the same with an Elise put me off. Would be interesting if anyone else on here had tried it.

mandarinvx

3 posts

247 months

Sunday 24th August 2008
quotequote all
Redlake27 said:
ps: This advice comes with a product plug. I'm using Goodyear Eagle F1s on my Europa - if anyone wants a true all-weather tyre for their Lotus they are awesome in the wet! The Europa is 195/45R17 235/45R17 rear, but I wonder if anyone has experimented with 195/45R16 F1s on the Elise S2? We may run this test ourselves. BTW, The F1s are now OE fitment from Lotus on the 2008 Europa SE following testing.
What sort of price would you be talking of for a set? What is the strengh of the sidewalls like - I use Toyo T1Rs at the moment and the walls are too 'soft' for my taste, giving the front a tendancy to 'roll' slightly
We have a group buy finishing soon for wheels, and most people were looking at Kumho 31's (in 205/45/16 front), it would be nice to find an alternative

In the case of the VX most people avoid the 195/45 profile up front as it takes the wheel too far under diameter and the ABS goes 'funny' - I think there is a 5% tolerence to standard diameter, tho the ABS can be disabled easily