Autocar 0-100-0 again!
Autocar 0-100-0 again!
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shithotfast

Original Poster:

1,134 posts

297 months

Sunday 17th August 2008
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How does it happen? The atom is the fastest 0-100-0 car ever (they say) at......... 11.5 secs.

fastka

156 posts

217 months

Sunday 17th August 2008
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An Ultima should pop over and take the photos...Lucky would have time to get his tripod out before the Atom came to a stop! laugh

I suppose the Atom isn't classed as a kit car...?

chuntington101

5,733 posts

265 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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fastka said:
I suppose the Atom isn't classed as a kit car...?
its not even avaliable as a kit is it??

Chris.

Captain Slog

375 posts

226 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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sthotfast said:
How does it happen? The atom is the fastest 0-100-0 car ever (they say) at......... 11.5 secs.
...........But the 1890kg £880,000 Bugatti ripped through the gears to hit 60mph in 2.8sec and 100mph in an astonishing 5.5sec. It then stopped in just 3.4sec, giving a 0-100-0mph time of 9.9sec.

Autocar quote http://www.gizmag.com/go/5805/

Every magazine seems to have different winners.

Steve

UltimaCH

3,181 posts

218 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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But the Ultima GTR720 is faster and remains the "top dog" with 9.4 secs for the 0-100-0 run.

sobisch

11 posts

218 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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And Jeffs Ultima under 9s i think wink

shithotfast

Original Poster:

1,134 posts

297 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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chuntington101 said:
fastka said:
I suppose the Atom isn't classed as a kit car...?
its not even avaliable as a kit is it??

Chris.
Its always the "kit car" issue with these kind of "popular magazine" tests - I guess - Although I seem to recall Lotus started as a kit car company, and Caterhams must be the most popular kit car on the road...both included. but the Ultima still has this "stigma" I guess. Although calling an ultima (especially some of the great new recent build cars) a "kit" is like calling the new Queen Mary cruise liner a ferry... - which it is - sort of.

Or it could be just which ever cars are "given" to Autocar etc for the events?. Probably down to the factory I guess.

Are small build companies moving away from self build as a result? The Atom would be a great self build - looks easy - with no body issues! Why isn't is available as a "kit" I wonder?

chuntington101

5,733 posts

265 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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sthotfast said:
chuntington101 said:
fastka said:
I suppose the Atom isn't classed as a kit car...?
its not even avaliable as a kit is it??

Chris.
Its always the "kit car" issue with these kind of "popular magazine" tests - I guess - Although I seem to recall Lotus started as a kit car company, and Caterhams must be the most popular kit car on the road...both included. but the Ultima still has this "stigma" I guess. Although calling an ultima (especially some of the great new recent build cars) a "kit" is like calling the new Queen Mary cruise liner a ferry... - which it is - sort of.

Or it could be just which ever cars are "given" to Autocar etc for the events?. Probably down to the factory I guess.

Are small build companies moving away from self build as a result? The Atom would be a great self build - looks easy - with no body issues! Why isn't is available as a "kit" I wonder?
all very good points mate!

Chris.

GTWayne

4,595 posts

246 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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I like to adopt a totally different attitude from all of those above; It all revolves around a rats arse and me not giving one, I mean, WHO CARES, Autocar shmuotocar blabla
What purpose would recognition of the Ultimas capabilities really serve then do you think?

andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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they wont publish Ultimas figures as it was not verfied by them (was there any indipendant press there?) and i suspect they wont be invited again until their relationship with Autocar is 'fixed'.

They report the record as what Autocar have verified rather than what other people have claimed, probably why they ignore the Veyron as well????

shithotfast

Original Poster:

1,134 posts

297 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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fair enough....... its just that I think Ultima is fantastic product (great performance, great looks, great build quality, great price performance etc) and don't want some uneducated magazine tts ignoring its ability without good reason. Even a comment like "loads of other cars around we could have tested eg Ultima etc, but we didn't have time to test them" would give them more credibility IMO.

Rant over! Going to have a lie down in a dark room!

DHGTR

1,196 posts

272 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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GTWayne said:

What purpose would recognition of the Ultimas capabilities really serve then do you think?
With more public recognition the 2nd hand value of the cars may increase and it may take less than 6 months to sell one.

kylemrushall

1,922 posts

233 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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DHGTR said:
GTWayne said:

What purpose would recognition of the Ultimas capabilities really serve then do you think?
With more public recognition the 2nd hand value of the cars may increase and it may take less than 6 months to sell one.
Aye

AnthonyR

73 posts

287 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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sthotfast said:
fair enough....... its just that I think Ultima is fantastic product (great performance, great looks, great build quality, great price performance etc) and don't want some uneducated magazine tts ignoring its ability without good reason. Even a comment like "loads of other cars around we could have tested eg Ultima etc, but we didn't have time to test them" would give them more credibility IMO.

Rant over! Going to have a lie down in a dark room!
Well you could have asked for a place as one of the readers cars, there was an open invite to owners of ineresting cars in the mag a couple of months ago.

It worked for me, if you don't ask you don't get. smile

GTWayne

4,595 posts

246 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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^ Jesus H, only 1 x more post Ant and that will bring your average right up to 2 a year, steady old boy laugh


DHGTR said:
With more public recognition the 2nd hand value of the cars may increase and it may take less than 6 months to sell one.
From a seller or potential sellers point of view I can see the logic in that statement but it will take more than a few magazine articles to make any appreciable difference to a would be buyer I think. A valid point was made on here not so long ago I think in that the Ultima is the type of car that is deliberately sought out for purchase as opposed to being any type of alternative or in stead of purchase and this alone will limit your market.
I guess I am fortunate in as much as I do not need to think about re-sale as I will be keeping my car for a very, very long period of time yes
The saying 'Never say Never' should be changed to 'You can go ahead and say Never if you like, but be prepared to change your mind that's all' yeshehe



Edited by GTWayne on Monday 18th August 17:36

DHGTR

1,196 posts

272 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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Hi Wayne, yes it will take more than a few magazine articles, i agree but we will all be sellers one day so the more exposure we can get the better. How many people have asked Ultima owners ' whats that then?".

All these people are potential buyers for us and i think the more glossy pictures and media attention we can get, the better.

I'd hate to think that one day your pride and joy will have to go for 35k, as we both know it cost slightly more than that to get onto the road. smile


andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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DHGTR said:
GTWayne said:

What purpose would recognition of the Ultimas capabilities really serve then do you think?
With more public recognition the 2nd hand value of the cars may increase and it may take less than 6 months to sell one.
Erm 2nd hand prices are held way above normal cars due to owners holding out for high risduals so more recognition could reduce residuals

GTWayne

4,595 posts

246 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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DHGTR said:
...How many people have asked Ultima owners ' whats that then?"...
And have you noticed that they only seem to ask this particular question to owners that have the bold yet tasteful words 'ULTIMA GTR' emblazoned across their side pods? Funny that wink

It's nothing against any of you that would like Ultima to receive more recognition than it does but I have said it before and I will say it again, I like the mistique and anonymity that surrounds our cars, the best kept secret and all, makes it feel more special, a privilege if you like.
Maybe the Prof is right, maybe I am a bit of a Weirdo scratchchin



Edited by GTWayne on Tuesday 19th August 06:58

DHGTR

1,196 posts

272 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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GTWayne said:
Maybe the Prof is right, maybe I am a bit of a Weirdo scratchchin
tumbleweed


Rusti Evo

537 posts

223 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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GTWayne said:
DHGTR said:
...How many people have asked Ultima owners ' whats that then?"...
And have you noticed that they only seem to ask this particular question to owners that have the bold yet tasteful words 'ULTIMA GTR' emblazoned across their side pods? Funny that wink
laughlaugh At Goodwood one of the resident instructors came over and said .. your 'NOBLE' sounds really good laughlaugh

and yes it's a yellow car with black ULTIMA GTR writ large on the side !!

Edited by Rusti Evo on Tuesday 19th August 08:48