Melling's Griffon.......latest article
Discussion
I know this has been discussd before,but this is in general and yesterdays date so looks a recent update.... can he do this regarding the shape of the car as its very similar to the original ? whats it made of,composite or steel bodied? with his history of failed projects in the car and bike world.... will this ever happen?
http://www.autocarmag.com/News/NewsArticle/AllCars...
http://www.autocarmag.com/News/NewsArticle/AllCars...
Mr Melling said:
the car the TVR Griffith should have been
Mr Melling said:
Suspension is by double unequal length wishbones in front and there is a coil-sprung live rear axle, with four locating links.


So does this mean Melling is recommending all you Griff owners change to a live rear axle then??
I thought this was a great Idea at first but now it looks like the Griff is going to be Americanised with bigger proportions and a live axle. He may aswell go the whole hog and use leaf springs. I do quite like American cars and I love American V8s but I think he should stick with TVRs proportions and keep away from live axles.
Remember that Shelby is based in Vegas, and that's where the Shelby Mustangs are made (just back from Vegas yesterday, and was driving this all week....

So there is clearly a factory capable of assembling/modifying live axle V8 cars in LV. Otherwise LV would be a strange place for a green field assembly operation I'd guess.

So there is clearly a factory capable of assembling/modifying live axle V8 cars in LV. Otherwise LV would be a strange place for a green field assembly operation I'd guess.
Lensey said:
Not as good looking as the Griff IMO 
I think it's a very fine looking beast and honours the old gal quite adequately, good motor/gearbox, new chassis, 'different' suspension and subtle compared to Shelbys latest as well.....in fact subtle compared to most modern behemoths
tvrolet said:
Remember that Shelby is based in Vegas, and that's where the Shelby Mustangs are made (just back from Vegas yesterday, and was driving this all week....

William - how did you find the Shelby GT-H? I hired the coupe a couple of years back and really enjoyed it and am taking 3 days in the convertible next month whilst on hols back in California. Very much looking forward to it. 
tvrolet said:
Remember that Shelby is based in Vegas, and that's where the Shelby Mustangs are made (just back from Vegas yesterday, and was driving this all week....

So there is clearly a factory capable of assembling/modifying live axle V8 cars in LV. Otherwise LV would be a strange place for a green field assembly operation I'd guess.
Snap! We had one for over 3 weeks in June (rented from Vegas) so I recognise the picture. Didn't like the auto gearbox, but it sounded great.
So there is clearly a factory capable of assembling/modifying live axle V8 cars in LV. Otherwise LV would be a strange place for a green field assembly operation I'd guess.
Julian
Mustang Baz said:
tvrolet said:
William - how did you find the Shelby GT-H? I hired the coupe a couple of years back and really enjoyed it and am taking 3 days in the convertible next month whilst on hols back in California. Very much looking forward to it. 
...not that you heard it from me.
Edited by tvrolet on Friday 8th August 12:25
thenick said:
Mr Melling said:
the car the TVR Griffith should have been
Mr Melling said:
Suspension is by double unequal length wishbones in front and there is a coil-sprung live rear axle, with four locating links.


So does this mean Melling is recommending all you Griff owners change to a live rear axle then??

I work at Melling and I will try to answer your queries:
1 Production. The Wildcat is in production now against orders and Melling only planned to produce 2 Wildcats/month in Britain. There are three at present being built.
2 The Live axle. The car was intended for quick acceleration and a Live Axle is far quicker. It seems to be a myth that a live rear axle gives poor handling. The tests we have done so far shown that it's the best set up for packaging, reliabilty etc. It also handles a lot better than a Griff with its current set up. If it ran with leaf springs rather than fully adjustable shocks then I can see there would be an issue! Also, Nascars race well at Laguna Seca with a similar set up.
3 Engine. If you get a Spec list from the factory, you have a choice, which is one of the main features of the Wildcat. The chassis is designed for any V8. One is being built now with a BMW V8 and Al. Melling's Wildcat will be built with a Viper V10!
4 Roof. If you get the Options sheet you can see a choice from Canvas Top to Hard Top.
5 Hellcat. The Hellcat is in development and will come out next year.
Also, the Wildcat and Hellcat have their very own Melling Brakes, shocks and forged aluminium wishbones, unlike the TVR "Service change" wishbones.
Hope this helps.
1 Production. The Wildcat is in production now against orders and Melling only planned to produce 2 Wildcats/month in Britain. There are three at present being built.
2 The Live axle. The car was intended for quick acceleration and a Live Axle is far quicker. It seems to be a myth that a live rear axle gives poor handling. The tests we have done so far shown that it's the best set up for packaging, reliabilty etc. It also handles a lot better than a Griff with its current set up. If it ran with leaf springs rather than fully adjustable shocks then I can see there would be an issue! Also, Nascars race well at Laguna Seca with a similar set up.
3 Engine. If you get a Spec list from the factory, you have a choice, which is one of the main features of the Wildcat. The chassis is designed for any V8. One is being built now with a BMW V8 and Al. Melling's Wildcat will be built with a Viper V10!
4 Roof. If you get the Options sheet you can see a choice from Canvas Top to Hard Top.
5 Hellcat. The Hellcat is in development and will come out next year.
Also, the Wildcat and Hellcat have their very own Melling Brakes, shocks and forged aluminium wishbones, unlike the TVR "Service change" wishbones.
Hope this helps.
Green Montego said:
...The Live axle. The car was intended for quick acceleration and a Live Axle is far quicker. It seems to be a myth that a live rear axle gives poor handling...
Why do you say it's a myth? I'm not a chassis designer but I do know that racing & sports cars (not stock cars) have been using independent wishbone suspension at the rear for 50 years and more and it's the design of choice. Seeing as an old-fashioned solid rear axle & diff is much cheaper I doubt they would have done that unless they thought it better to use IRS all round. Personally I think I trust the preference of the European designers over the Yanks, with all due respect. Gassing Station | General TVR Stuff & Gossip | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff





