RE: Dodge Challenger

RE: Dodge Challenger

Wednesday 23rd July 2008

Dodge Challenger

The Dodge Challenger is part of a new breed of American muscle car. Steve Havelock drives it on UK roads.



With fuel prices rising alarmingly, road tax on performance cars going through the roof and politicians obsessed with CO2 emissions, you have to wonder how much longer cars like the new Dodge Challenger SRT8 will be made. This is part of a new breed of American muscle car, a modern interpretation of a classic with retro looks and a 6.1 litre Hemi V8 pumping out 425bhp and 420 lb-ft of torque.


Chrysler has already decided that it won’t be officially imported into the UK so the only way buyers here will get hold of one is to ship it over themselves. Needless to say they are likely to be a very rare sight on British roads so when a pair of Challengers arrived from America to appear in the Supercar Run in last weekend’s Goodwood Festival of Speed I just had to get my hands on one.

Chrysler told me that the only way I would get to drive one would be if I was prepared to at the crack of dawn on Monday in the heart of the New Forest, just before they went back State-side. Luckily for me, it is a gorgeous morning with deep blue skies, against which the pearl orange and black Challenger looks absolutely stunning, which is a word I don’t use often.


The car has impeccable proportions and clean, uncluttered but muscular lines. With eager anticipation I climb into the cockpit which is a dark, predominantly black but somehow comforting place with many of the controls and switches having a familiar ‘Chrysler’ look and feel about them. I hit the start button – no key required due to the keyless entry and start system - and the big Hemi purrs, rather than explodes into life.

Looking at the narrow British B road ahead of me I select ‘D’ from the five-speed auto box and hit the loud pedal. Any similarities with the raucous, snakin’, rockin’ and a rollin’ muscle cars of the seventies are dispensed almost immediately. The 20” diameter Goodyear Eagle tyres bite into the tarmac without a murmur and the Challenger whooshes up the road in a controlled and completely un-dramatic manner.

Only the blurring of trees flashing past the window and other cars becoming dots in the rear view mirror give any indication of how fast iI'm going. Well, that and the clear, easy to read white-faced speedo and rev counter in front of me but it would be unwise to stare at that. 0-60mph is 4.5 seconds and it certainly feels that fast, while top speed is 174mph.


Also, for a muscle car I certainly don’t need arms like Popeye to work the wheel - in fact the steering is so light I actually wonder if it I'm connected to anything at all. The lack of feel is perhaps one of the biggest downsides of the Challenger and something you have to adapt to.

You find you can make the car go where you want it to with one finger and although its lightness must have huge benefits in town it certainly will not be to the tastes of most British enthusiasts. On B roads and back roads the suspension is firm, not hard, and not at all crashy.

Rear visibility is somewhat obscured by the heavy rear pillars requiring extra care when feeding out into traffic or changing lanes. But I’ll forgive it that for the sake of the styling because this is one handsome brute that drew admiring looks from everyone who clapped eyes on it. If you wanted to buy one from a specialist importer you'd be looking at a £50K - which puts the car up against BMW's brilliant M3.


What you realise after driving the Challenger is that it is not the hot and sweaty, rough-around-the-edges beast that muscle cars once where. It is now much more a 21st century car - powerful, secure, but also easy to drive. So the muscle car may be changing and evolving with the times, but at least we can be thankful that they make them at all.

 

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Official Slacker

Original Poster:

96 posts

207 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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shoot screw you brown!!

I want one!!

Callan.T89

8,422 posts

200 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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I absolutely love this car, surely the best looking car in production today.

ukvoyager.info

2,781 posts

229 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Not a great write up if you ask me. Check out Top Gear or 4Car or Edmunds for some better, more complete reviews.

Personally I'm waiting for the 2009 complete with a stick.

Official Slacker

Original Poster:

96 posts

207 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Yeah, I would want a stick shift too

Vipers

33,119 posts

235 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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lick


PompeyM3

1,847 posts

212 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Finally saw one of these at the Goodwood Festival of Speed and have to say I really like the look of it....

Never been a fan of anything from the other side of the pond, but I think this is the best they've done design wise along with the Mustang.

Varn

205 posts

208 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Such a good looking car!

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

223 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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ukvoyager.info said:
Not a great write up if you ask me.
Waits for Garlick to wade in with sarcy comments, taking great offence that someone dare criticise a PH article.

feritsbum

812 posts

213 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Brill, now lets see it sorted and run at the pod.

Crow555

1,037 posts

201 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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I've got to say. Some cars tend to disappoint after you see the concept it was borne from. This on the other hand I have to admit is much better looking than the concept.

I wonder will we be getting the chance to buy in Plum Crazy Purple or top banana yellow again?

crbox

461 posts

240 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Economy comparisons with a 2004 996 - subjective I know - but there could be a case?

Despite the expected mixed reviews - a nice looking retro coupe that's £20k $40k USD list for the TOR 425 bhp version (in the US) Say £25,000 landed DIY in the UK

If it gets only 12 around town, that means you will pay 2x the fuel of a 24 mpg 2004-6, £32,000 Porsche 996

So say you do 250 miles pw

Dodge
12 mpg, 21 galls = £115 pw or £5980 pa fuel

So over 2 years cost = £25,000 + £5980 + £5980 = £36,960

Porsche
24mpg, 11.5 galls = £58w or £3016 pa fuel

So over 2 years cost = £32,000 + £3016 + £3016 = £38, 038

So save money and buy the new Dodge.

m4tthew

8,918 posts

209 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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article said:
Chrysler told me that the only way I would get to drive one would be if I was prepared to at the crack of dawn on Monday
Say what?!wink

Awesome looking car though.

m4tthew

8,918 posts

209 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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crbox said:
Economy comparisons with a 2004 996 - subjective I know - but there could be a case?

Despite the expected mixed reviews - a nice looking retro coupe that's £20k $40k USD list for the TOR 425 bhp version (in the US) Say £25,000 landed DIY in the UK

If it gets only 12 around town, that means you will pay 2x the fuel of a 24 mpg 2004-6, £32,000 Porsche 996

So say you do 250 miles pw

Dodge
12 mpg, 21 galls = £115 pw or £5980 pa fuel

So over 2 years cost = £25,000 + £5980 + £5980 = £36,960

Porsche
24mpg, 11.5 galls = £58w or £3016 pa fuel

So over 2 years cost = £32,000 + £3016 + £3016 = £38, 038

So save money and buy the new Dodge.
Then lose a shedload in depreciation!

BUG4LIFE

2,160 posts

225 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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You would be hard pushed to get one over here for £25k. Check this out http://www.newport-imports.com/newveh.asp?make=DOD...

woof

8,456 posts

284 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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I like my yanks cars - but I've seen it in the flesh
It's just dreadful - it's nothing like the original - it's bulky and looks more like the Chrysler 300c

It was such a disappointment for me frown


TEKNOPUG

19,340 posts

212 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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crbox said:
Economy comparisons with a 2004 996 - subjective I know - but there could be a case?

Despite the expected mixed reviews - a nice looking retro coupe that's £20k $40k USD list for the TOR 425 bhp version (in the US) Say £25,000 landed DIY in the UK

If it gets only 12 around town, that means you will pay 2x the fuel of a 24 mpg 2004-6, £32,000 Porsche 996

So say you do 250 miles pw

Dodge
12 mpg, 21 galls = £115 pw or £5980 pa fuel

So over 2 years cost = £25,000 + £5980 + £5980 = £36,960

Porsche
24mpg, 11.5 galls = £58w or £3016 pa fuel

So over 2 years cost = £32,000 + £3016 + £3016 = £38, 038

So save money and buy the new Dodge.
24mpg in a 996?!?!?! You are driving Miss Daisy AICMFP!

Mustow

182 posts

198 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Looks great and I'd love one but the £50k price tag seems a bit of a rip off when you can buy one in the USA for less than £21k on the road. They also produce a 5.7 V8 version for £15k on the road. If that's too much then try £11k for a 3.5 V6.

At something like those prices I would be very interested. Almost worth moving to the good ol USA. smile

MrTappets

881 posts

198 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Doesn't sound at all like a muscle car. Should be getting no more than 200bhp from a 6.1l engine, should roar instead of purr, should spin its wheels endlessly instead of launch properly and should crash into a 'gasoliiine' station with a massive explosion at the first corner. Bah

NATM5

17 posts

198 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Interesting Article, especially as i have been trying to get one.

The part i like is the price quoted by specialist importers. More like specialist rip off merchants. I think £ 50,000 is a tad rich , although the 2 importers i asked for prices both quoted me £ 45,000.

Now call me old fashioned but i dont like being ripped off.

If i may.

Cost of Dodge Challenger SRT8 in orange.......$ 41,000 ( you may get a local discount as its being exported.
Shipping to UK $ 2000.00

Total cost $ 42000 which = £ 22,000.00
IMPORT TAX @ 10 % = £ 2,200.00
VAT @ 17.5 % = £ 4,235.00

TOTAL = £ 28,435.00

Now let me see, you have your car at the dock what else do u need.........?

registration and SVA test.

SVA test is £240.00.......and there may be the odd modification here and there and lets be generous and add £ 1000.00

so the total cost comes to £ 29,675.00

Lets be generous again , ill call it a round £ 30,000.

My question is this.................where is the other £15-20,000 gone..............?

Straight in to the robbing specialists importers pocket.

So there you have it, if you want one, bring it over yourself and in fact go there and fetch yourself, and have yourself a holiday there too.


Regards

N.


Valentin

3,281 posts

222 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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MrTappets said:
Doesn't sound at all like a muscle car. Should be getting no more than 200bhp from a 6.1l engine, should roar instead of purr, should spin its wheels endlessly instead of launch properly and should crash into a 'gasoliiine' station with a massive explosion at the first corner. Bah
exactly.
And I always liked that both the challenger and the charger had the grace to die young. It's ok if Ford produces a new (great) mustang, because they have done this for the last 40 years. But why wake up the dead??