Macaroni Cheese
Author
Discussion

Buster Bakdorzin

Original Poster:

16,277 posts

281 months

Friday 4th July 2008
quotequote all
Absolutely love it, with chicken or bacon, or both!

Its easy enough to make, but I dont seem able to make an exceptionally good one.

Does anyone have the ultimate home made step-by-step recipe, including advice on quality/brand of cheese, herbs, how much bacon, etc.

Tips on making a decent breadcrumb topping would also be appreciated, I usually smash up some herb flavoured croutons and lob those on top, but that also doesnt seem to work too well.

deadslow

8,588 posts

239 months

Friday 4th July 2008
quotequote all
Also love this dish, but no idea how to make a decent version. Look forward to someone posting the killer recipe.

satchbot

1,916 posts

212 months

Friday 4th July 2008
quotequote all
I need a good recipe.

smiller

12,172 posts

220 months

Saturday 5th July 2008
quotequote all
deadslow said:
Also love this dish, but no idea how to make a decent version. Look forward to someone posting the killer recipe.
yes

sonar

H_Kan

4,942 posts

215 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
quotequote all
For a bread crumb topping, mix in some cheese with stale bread that has been blitzed. Also to get a bit of flavour I sometimes whack in a bit of garlic that's been minced. Op I think using bread instead of croutons will help. Also after ovenbaking, finish off in the grill for 5 mins.

On another note, try some paprika over the top of mac cheese, combines nicely with the flavour imo. Not too much though.

Oh and nutmeg works well in the sauce, although be careful not to put too many contrasting flavours in.

mj01

63 posts

208 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
quotequote all
Include a teaspoon of English mustard powder in the cheese sauce, it really brings out the cheese flavour!

Buster Bakdorzin

Original Poster:

16,277 posts

281 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
quotequote all
H_Kan said:
For a bread crumb topping, mix in some cheese with stale bread that has been blitzed. Also to get a bit of flavour I sometimes whack in a bit of garlic that's been minced. Op I think using bread instead of croutons will help. Also after ovenbaking, finish off in the grill for 5 mins.
I did try bread (oven baked to go crispy) but didnt feel it added much, probably because my dish wasnt great to begin with.

I found adding bacon (fried with onions) too salty, perhpas it should be diced and cooked raw inside the cheese/pasta.

mj01 said:
Include a teaspoon of English mustard powder in the cheese sauce, it really brings out the cheese flavour!
Will give that a go too smile

I might have another bash as making one tonight, still not sure what is holding mine back from being as good as it could otherwise be, though scratchchin

escargot

17,122 posts

233 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
quotequote all
Buster Bakdorzin said:
I found adding bacon (fried with onions) too salty, perhpas it should be diced and cooked raw inside the cheese/pasta.
You could try pancetta instead, not quite as salty as bog standard supermarket bacon and readily available. wink

Buster Bakdorzin

Original Poster:

16,277 posts

281 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
quotequote all
escargot said:
Buster Bakdorzin said:
I found adding bacon (fried with onions) too salty, perhpas it should be diced and cooked raw inside the cheese/pasta.
You could try pancetta instead, not quite as salty as bog standard supermarket bacon and readily available. wink
If I ever get round to eating dinner one of these days!

mechsympathy

55,847 posts

271 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
quotequote all
Buster Bakdorzin said:
I found adding bacon (fried with onions) too salty, perhpas it should be diced and cooked raw inside the cheese/pasta.
Perhaps try ham rather than bacon? But certainly cook the bacon first.

Buster Bakdorzin said:
I might have another bash as making one tonight, still not sure what is holding mine back from being as good as it could otherwise be, though scratchchin
How are you making the bechemel sauce? It's often pretty bland which will really be noticeable in something like macaroni cheese. If you add a chopped onion, some garlic, bay leaf or two and some whole peppercorns to the milk and bring it to the boil before putting the lid on and turning off the heat it'll improve it no end. Leave it an hour and seive out the solid bits before using it in the sauce.

Buster Bakdorzin

Original Poster:

16,277 posts

281 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
quotequote all
mechsympathy said:
Buster Bakdorzin said:
I found adding bacon (fried with onions) too salty, perhpas it should be diced and cooked raw inside the cheese/pasta.
Perhaps try ham rather than bacon? But certainly cook the bacon first.

Buster Bakdorzin said:
I might have another bash as making one tonight, still not sure what is holding mine back from being as good as it could otherwise be, though scratchchin
How are you making the bechemel sauce? It's often pretty bland which will really be noticeable in something like macaroni cheese. If you add a chopped onion, some garlic, bay leaf or two and some whole peppercorns to the milk and bring it to the boil before putting the lid on and turning off the heat it'll improve it no end. Leave it an hour and seive out the solid bits before using it in the sauce.
scratchchin

I make a rue the proper way to get the creamiest béchamel sauce, and after seasoning with all sorts (try something different every time) I chuck in the pepper, a TONNE of medium cheddar which youd think would transform even the blandest sauce, plus chopped (lazy) garlic which is in with the bacon/onion.

I oven bake with pasta, and usually finish as you should under the grill with an extra layer of cheese, but its never spectacular...

Should a sauce be made with creme and milk instead of just milk?

escargot

17,122 posts

233 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
quotequote all
When you're warming the milk, have you tried chucking half an onion studded with a few cloves & a bay leaf in?

mechsympathy

55,847 posts

271 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
quotequote all
Buster Bakdorzin said:
Should a sauce be made with creme and milk instead of just milk?
nonoCream will make it richer but blander. See Escargot's post above too, it'll have a similar effect to mine, but personally I save cloves for bread sauce. It's also probably worth using parmesan, either with or without the cheddar.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

286 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
quotequote all
'Er indoors started buying that lazy garlic a while ago.

It tastes nothing like garlic at all, its vile.

dcw@pr

3,516 posts

259 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
quotequote all
I've never made it, but surely first port of call should be to use a stronger flavoured cheddar?

escargot

17,122 posts

233 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
quotequote all
mechsympathy said:
Buster Bakdorzin said:
Should a sauce be made with creme and milk instead of just milk?
nonoCream will make it richer but blander. See Escargot's post above too, it'll have a similar effect to mine, but personally I save cloves for bread sauce. It's also probably worth using parmesan, either with or without the cheddar.
Ahh, didn't read yours. Silly me.wink

Buster Bakdorzin

Original Poster:

16,277 posts

281 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
quotequote all
escargot said:
When you're warming the milk, have you tried chucking half an onion studded with a few cloves & a bay leaf in?
I'll sling a few bays in next time, I dont use them unless im cooking whilst drunk, as Im never sure which dishes are supposed to benefit from them hehe

Plotloss said:
'Er indoors started buying that lazy garlic a while ago.

It tastes nothing like garlic at all, its vile.
I, um... I like it biggrin

Being a real man, I spose you whop it with a spanner/torque wrench, and just bung the lot in - skins n' all?wink

matchmaker

8,795 posts

216 months

Friday 11th July 2008
quotequote all
mj01 said:
Include a teaspoon of English mustard powder in the cheese sauce, it really brings out the cheese flavour!
Agree! Also use decent cheese - anything less than a mature Cheddar is wasted in cooking as the flavour doesn't come through.

Keep it simple - cook macaroni, drain. Make cheese sauce (with a roux!), mix the two, season, put in a casserole, grate cheese on top, put in hot oven to crisp. Sorted.

fk me, I sound like bloody Gordon Ramsay eekeek

escargot

17,122 posts

233 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
quotequote all
matchmaker said:
mj01 said:
Include a teaspoon of English mustard powder in the cheese sauce, it really brings out the cheese flavour!
Agree! Also use decent cheese - anything less than a mature Cheddar is wasted in cooking as the flavour doesn't come through.

Keep it simple - cook macaroni, drain. Make cheese sauce (with a roux!), mix the two, season, put in a casserole, grate cheese on top, put in hot oven to crisp. Sorted.

fk me, I sound like bloody Gordon Ramsay eekeek
No you don't.

Rude Girl

6,937 posts

275 months

Sunday 13th July 2008
quotequote all
Plotloss said:
'Er indoors started buying that lazy garlic a while ago.

It tastes nothing like garlic at all, its vile.
Indeed. I bought it once, thinking it might do for quick weeknight suppers. Turns out it's better for playing 'fetch' with next doors' dog. smile

Clove of garlic and a Microplane grater is the way - hardly any effort and the grater goes in the dishwasher.