250 GTO

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iguana

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Tuesday 10th June 2008
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Or is it??

Unloading at an auction on Friday & spot this, rear view on, blimey I think, there is some nice stuff here but not quite to that level- I mean whats a GTO nowadays £6m?? nice metal there but nothing else was near that value.


Ok so not the real thing but other than real Ferrari Anorakisti, from the front & rear is bloody near eh? side profile ok maybe roof line would give it away.

Dont normally go for reps but blimey I did like this a lot.














Edited by iguana on Tuesday 10th June 23:24

BlueCello

6,225 posts

214 months

Tuesday 10th June 2008
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I love that Montreal lick

The Black Duke

1,642 posts

200 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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iguana said:
Or is it??

Unloading at an auction on Friday & spot this, rear view on, blimey I think, there is some nice stuff here but not quite to that level- I mean whats a GTO nowadays £6m?? nice metal there but nothing else was near that value.


Ok so not the real thing but other than real Ferrari Anorakisti, from the front & rear is bloody near eh? side profile ok maybe roof line would give it away.

Dont normally go for reps but blimey I did like this a lot.














Edited by iguana on Tuesday 10th June 23:24
Quite agree
Nice car

J111

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222 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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Somebody chopped up a 365 GT4 to make that. Seems a bit of a pity, really.

Freddie von Rost

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219 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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Needs must .....

J111

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Wednesday 11th June 2008
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Freddie von Rost said:
Needs must .....
I suppose so, but the world has an awful lot of front engined, rear wheel drive 'donors' of rather less elated pedigree.

Still, it does look to be a lovely job - alloy bodied ?

Fittster

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Wednesday 11th June 2008
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J111 said:
Somebody chopped up a 365 GT4 to make that. Seems a bit of a pity, really.
How can you tell?

absolutely

3,168 posts

199 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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That to me looks like a Datsun Z-Car Kit with an age related plate, trying to make it look like a 65 car!
The C-Pillar is the dead give away!


The "proper" GTO's C-Pillar is elongated compared to the Datsun kits. Also the GTO has a more of a wrap around rear windscreen compared to the flatter on on the Datsun.


Edited by absolutely on Wednesday 11th June 00:50

The Black Duke

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Wednesday 11th June 2008
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Fittster said:
J111 said:
Somebody chopped up a 365 GT4 to make that. Seems a bit of a pity, really.
How can you tell?
+1

J111

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222 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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Fittster said:
J111 said:
Somebody chopped up a 365 GT4 to make that. Seems a bit of a pity, really.
How can you tell?
I can't, I'm wrong.

That it's registered as a '75 (that's not a typo on my part) Ferrari with a 4390cc engine strongly suggested that it had a Tipo 251, but, in fact, absolutely is right, it's a Z based repro, with, of all things, a Rover V8.

Link

I can't imagine how much work that took, the Z based 250 that used to live in Derby had dog rough glassfibre.

Edited by J111 on Wednesday 11th June 01:33

The Black Duke

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Wednesday 11th June 2008
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good god

absolutely

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Wednesday 11th June 2008
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J111 said:
Fittster said:
J111 said:
Somebody chopped up a 365 GT4 to make that. Seems a bit of a pity, really.
How can you tell?
I can't, I'm wrong.

That it's registered as a '75 (that's not a typo on my part) Ferrari with a 4390cc engine strongly suggested that it had a Tipo 251, but, in fact, absolutely is right, it's a Z based repro, with, of all things, a Rover V8.

Link
The nose is too long for a proper 250GTO and there are no air intakes on it and there are 3 on the 250. I have seen Nick Mason's car race at Ingliston in the late 80s to early 90s.

MADCAP

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197 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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The Black Duke said:
Fittster said:
J111 said:
Somebody chopped up a 365 GT4 to make that. Seems a bit of a pity, really.
How can you tell?
+1
The DVLA site quotes it as a Ferrari 365.

fatboy b

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223 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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BlueCello said:
I love that Montreal lick
yes I sooooo want one of those.

TimmyArt

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225 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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absolutely said:
J111 said:
Fittster said:
J111 said:
Somebody chopped up a 365 GT4 to make that. Seems a bit of a pity, really.
How can you tell?
I can't, I'm wrong.

That it's registered as a '75 (that's not a typo on my part) Ferrari with a 4390cc engine strongly suggested that it had a Tipo 251, but, in fact, absolutely is right, it's a Z based repro, with, of all things, a Rover V8.

Link
The nose is too long for a proper 250GTO and there are no air intakes on it and there are 3 on the 250. I have seen Nick Mason's car race at Ingliston in the late 80s to early 90s.
Yep, its not bad actually, seen alot worse.
The air intakes are correct, its just got the panels in. The roof line is slightly too high as it goes over the rear window thus creating problems from there back. The back is a bit too square.
The wheels let it down badly, if they'd invested in some proper borani's and sorted the rear out, it could make all the difference.



Edited by TimmyArt on Wednesday 11th June 07:44

enioldjoe

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218 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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Apparently......"Of the 36 which have been built, all 3000+ of them are still running." hehe

Justayellowbadge

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249 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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That is by far and away the best Z-car GTO rep I have ever seen. The work involved would have been immense.

Jonty355

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220 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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Nah, thats better than your usual Z-car replica. The Datsun based ones are completely different, where as that is quite convincing!

atomicpunk

340 posts

208 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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I had a good look at this car when it was auctioned on Sunday at the H&H sale in Loseley Park, Surrey.

I checked out the paperwork in detail, as I was interested in bidding on it. I can confirm that it's a Z car based replica with an engine from a TVR Chimaera(!), but registered on the V5 as 'Ferrari Coupe'. To be honest it looked really good and came with a huge ring binder full of photos and receipts from the build (which took about 10 years from what I could see!).

Anyway, the car ended up going for a ridiculous 19k (+10% buyer's commission and VAT). Not a big suprise though as a lot of the other cars there went for crazy money, averaging 20-30% over top estimate. I go to the classic auctions regularly and have never seen bidding like that before!

Photo I took on the day below:


Chris71

21,548 posts

249 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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Why go to that much effort and then put the wrong engine in? I have a feeling I know which car this is and I was told a BMW V12 would fit in. Even an Alfa V6 would have been more in keeping. I really don't understand it - someone's obviously gone to a lot of trouble in all other respects, but Ferraris of that era were all about the engine. I just don't get it.