(Cheap) Way to measure 0-60 and 0-100 times?
(Cheap) Way to measure 0-60 and 0-100 times?
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NobleGuy

Original Poster:

7,133 posts

244 months

Wednesday 4th June 2008
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As the title says, are there any little gizmos that can be used to measure such things?
Just interested in knowing the real times for my car.

Adrian W

15,494 posts

257 months

Wednesday 4th June 2008
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You'll end up breaking it!

NobleGuy

Original Poster:

7,133 posts

244 months

Wednesday 4th June 2008
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Adrian W said:
You'll end up breaking it!
hehe
I'm assuming you mean the car.

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

282 months

Wednesday 4th June 2008
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You could try your satnav! biggrin

Porks have a £1000 + option - a clock timer sits atop the dash.

Adrian W

15,494 posts

257 months

Mr Noble

6,538 posts

262 months

Wednesday 4th June 2008
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AMG Merc said:
You could try your satnav! biggrin

Porks have a £1000 + option - a clock timer sits atop the dash.
They're rubbish. (so said the 4 chaps in 997 GT3RS's at brands on monday) smile

S26VE P

2,174 posts

271 months

Wednesday 4th June 2008
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ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

269 months

Wednesday 4th June 2008
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I've got one of the original G-TechPro things around somewhere. It does 0-60, 1/4 mile and horsepower calcs. If it works I'll let it got for less than a tank of petrol (probably less than half a tank these days frown)

NobleGuy

Original Poster:

7,133 posts

244 months

Wednesday 4th June 2008
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ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
I've got one of the original G-TechPro things around somewhere. It does 0-60, 1/4 mile and horsepower calcs. If it works I'll let it got for less than a tank of petrol (probably less than half a tank these days frown)
Cool smile.
I only want to try it once or twice just to get a feel for it - not really into breaking any world records (if only). My talent will run out far earlier.

Also might be interesting to see what it thinks my power is compared to the RR figures.

DanH

12,287 posts

289 months

Wednesday 4th June 2008
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Adrian W said:
DL1 seems a lot better. The vbox mini etc have no accelerometers so all g readings are inferred from 10hz gps.

Main reason I went for the DL1.

Oh and I know a guy with the driftbox which is the same unit with different firmware. It consistently under estimates his lap times by 2 seconds! (was tested with a DL1 and driftbox in car at same time)

driverrob

4,847 posts

232 months

Wednesday 4th June 2008
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ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
I've got one of the original G-TechPro things around somewhere. It does 0-60, 1/4 mile and horsepower calcs. If it works I'll let it got for less than a tank of petrol (probably less than half a tank these days frown)
ditto
I've only used it once. There are no roads around here good enough to try more than the 0-60 time.

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

269 months

Wednesday 4th June 2008
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DanH said:
The vbox mini etc have no accelerometers so all g readings are inferred from 10hz gps.
Wrong. Driftbox and VBOX Mini both do. Odd that that Driftbox was so far out. I've seen them being spot on to the nearest 1/10sec over a long period. Something not right there....

sean_goodman

536 posts

232 months

Thursday 5th June 2008
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get the gtech pro rr version and it downloads graphs to your pc.

at the end of the day pure accuracy doesnt really matter, if you allways use the same device you can monitor the improvemnet or not by repeat runs.

had a gtech rr before and found it quite good, does braking distance as well

sold it cos i used it twice and then put it in the cupboard with all my other toys lol

S26VE P

2,174 posts

271 months

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

269 months

Thursday 5th June 2008
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S26VE P said:
Yup, that's the one I have. I'll dig it out tonight. I even have the manual for it somewhere!

peterguk V6 KWK

2,622 posts

246 months

Thursday 5th June 2008
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Try this:

http://www.twosrus.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=288 

Fitted as part of a performance pack by Lotus IIRC..

DanH

12,287 posts

289 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
DanH said:
The vbox mini etc have no accelerometers so all g readings are inferred from 10hz gps.
Wrong. Driftbox and VBOX Mini both do. Odd that that Driftbox was so far out. I've seen them being spot on to the nearest 1/10sec over a long period. Something not right there....
WRONG!



The Driftbox has a 2 axis accelerometer, but this is used for alignment of the gyro for measurement of drift angles. Driftbox used a 10Hz GPS engine with no interpolation of data, which is also logged at a rate of 10 Hz. Lateral and longitudinal acceleration is calculated from GPS engine data.

Steve
Racelogic



http://www.driftbox.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=11

It isn't even a gyro they use for measuring drift, its a magnetometer which is complete ste when not perfectly level although adequate for this task I guess.

On the timing issue, not sure what the issue is, but it seems they might just add up the samples to get the lap time so with any drop out you lose updates and it gets it wrong. Odd as the GPS signal has a very accurate time stamp. This guys unit is consistently rubbish! Maybe its a duff firmware revision.

In comparison, DL1 has 2 accelerometers at 20hz, is software upgradeable to 20hz gps (if recent unit), can have a gyro to measure drift at build (my unit was first off the production line with it).


Edited by DanH on Friday 6th June 19:28

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

269 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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DanH said:
Honestly, they suck. Sorry mate if you own onewink
Fair enough, but honestly it's you think they suckwink The one I played with as I said wasn't a mile away from a full VBOX II with all the add ons. Ok they both might be telling porkies...but unlikely.

DanH

12,287 posts

289 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
DanH said:
Honestly, they suck. Sorry mate if you own onewink
Fair enough, but honestly it's you think they suckwink The one I played with as I said wasn't a mile away from a full VBOX II with all the add ons. Ok they both might be telling porkies...but unlikely.
The vbox II is a good product. It is about a million miles from the vbox min/driftbox etc!

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

269 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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DanH said:
The vbox II is a good product. It is about a million miles from the vbox min/driftbox etc!
Less than 3 feet actually smile

Edited by ThatPhilBrettGuy on Friday 6th June 22:59