Second hand 360...
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apocalypso

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94 posts

224 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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Has anyone ever bought a 360 second hand? Normally I wouldn't think twice about buying a console second hand but I'm a bit concerned about the 360's well documented hardware problems. I would love to buy a new one but I don't have much money, GTA IV is coming and I'm beginning to see a bleak, Liberty City free future stretching out in front of me... Not to mention Forza 2! I've only just started playing Forza 1 on my old xbox and it's the most fun driving game I have ever played. Forza 2 pretty much settled the whole PS3/360 debate for me.

Tycho

12,269 posts

302 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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The 360 is really cheap now if you get the basic one. IIRC it is about £150. Wouldn't touch a 2nd hand one with a barge pole. Can't tell if it has been banned from Live or has been opened and therefore have no warranty.

Silverbullet767

11,242 posts

235 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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Xbox 360 Premium (includes 20GB HDD and all the usual stuff) with GTA4

£189.99

At play.com use voucher: experience08 for this price.

http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-/5387997/Xbox-...

apocalypso

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94 posts

224 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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£150 is one without a hard drive right? I found out about these only yesterday, should be easy to put a hard drive into one and I think I have a 40gig hard drive lying about somewhere (I'll go and check this out now...). Thanks for the advice about xbox live, I didn't realise specific machines could be banned.

Roll on payday!

apocalypso

Original Poster:

94 posts

224 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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£190 with GTA IV? I'm there! Turning out to be a good day. It's been about six months since I last thought about buying one, I had no idea prices had dropped so much.

NickFRP

5,156 posts

264 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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second hand ones could have been banned form xbox live... so no online rampaging on GTA if it is banned!!

Silverbullet767

11,242 posts

235 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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apocalypso said:
£150 is one without a hard drive right? I found out about these only yesterday, should be easy to put a hard drive into one and I think I have a 40gig hard drive lying about somewhere (I'll go and check this out now...). Thanks for the advice about xbox live, I didn't realise specific machines could be banned.

Roll on payday!
You cannot use just any hard drive, they are specific to the 360 costing from about £70, much better off getting a premium with one included, and you also get a wireless controller rather than wired. smile

Edit: I see your going for the deal, glad I could help, and happy playing.

Once you get connected to Xbox Live (£40 per year, but a pre-paid card can be bought cheaper in shops) you can add me to your friends list.

Username: Silverbullet767

I'll see you online!



Edited by Silverbullet767 on Thursday 10th April 11:32

apocalypso

Original Poster:

94 posts

224 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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Yep I'll add you as soon as I'm up and running, really looking forward to xbox live! Just have to wait until payday (almost two weeks!) and I'm feeling very impatient.

ETA didn't know they were specific hard drives, could have got myself in a pickle with that one

Edited by apocalypso on Thursday 10th April 11:37

Silverbullet767

11,242 posts

235 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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apocalypso said:
Yep I'll add you as soon as I'm up and running, really looking forward to xbox live! Just have to wait until payday (almost two weeks!) and I'm feeling very impatient.

ETA didn't know they were specific hard drives, could have got myself in a pickle with that one

Edited by apocalypso on Thursday 10th April 11:37
While your soaking up info, here's another tip.

Rather than buy Xbox's own play and charge kit for the wireless controllers (ripoff)

Just get a couple of rechargeable AA batteries and a charger, any kind will do, but the higher the milliamp rating the better (mine are 2500mA)

I was £15 for 4AA duracell's and a charger, had them for over 2 years now, definitely the cheapest option.

Get your network planned out for where you are going to put the 360, there is a network cable included, but its not that long. So if your router is in a different room you will need to run a cable length, as the wireless adaptor for the 360 is expensive and not half as good as a wired connection. the type your looking for is a Cat5 RJ45 patch cable.

MK4 Slowride

10,028 posts

237 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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How many people have really been banned forever from XBox live? There's abuse & racism etc all the time.

Yes, I'm party to giving and sometimes receiveing abuse but that's not the point

wink

apocalypso

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94 posts

224 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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Yeah the router's going to be a problem, not only in another room but up the stairs and round the corner! Going to have to have a think about that one... cheers for the tip on the batteries soon, all the info is making my impatience grow...

Steve Evil

10,819 posts

258 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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MK4 Slowride said:
How many people have really been banned forever from XBox live? There's abuse & racism etc all the time.

Yes, I'm party to giving and sometimes receiveing abuse but that's not the point

wink
My original XBox console got banned forever due to it being chipped..

Tycho

12,269 posts

302 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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Steve Evil said:
MK4 Slowride said:
How many people have really been banned forever from XBox live? There's abuse & racism etc all the time.

Yes, I'm party to giving and sometimes receiveing abuse but that's not the point

wink
My original XBox console got banned forever due to it being chipped..
Yeah, I think it is more the console as I have heard so much abuse being given out (most of it directed at Slowride when he selected Killhouse with 10 or so players.... biggrin)

The best thing is when a 13 year old Yank thinks that telling a Brit to go and have a cup of tea is an insult....biggrin

Silverbullet767

11,242 posts

235 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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apocalypso said:
Yeah the router's going to be a problem, not only in another room but up the stairs and round the corner! Going to have to have a think about that one... cheers for the tip on the batteries soon, all the info is making my impatience grow...
Another option thats more expensive than cabling, but cheaper than wireless (and still better)

Is power over ethernet

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/167402/dynamode-85m...

Its a plug in device that uses your internal power wiring at a network. Just plug one in both rooms and connect it up.

Coder

281 posts

222 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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SilverBullet said:
Power over ethernet is a little different - that's when you send power through twisted pair connections in order to provide a power source for networked devices. It's commonly used for internet phones (like the Cisco ones seen in "24", and on my desk).

The stuff you're referring to is more like "Ethernet over power".

Edited by Coder on Thursday 10th April 12:39

Silverbullet767

11,242 posts

235 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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Coder said:
SilverBullet said:
Power over ethernet is a little different - that's when you send power through twisted pair connections in order to provide a power source for networked devices. It's commonly used for internet phones (like the Cisco ones seen in "24", and on my desk).

The stuff you're referring to is more like "Ethernet over power".

Edited by Coder on Thursday 10th April 12:39
teacher noted smile

franv8

2,212 posts

267 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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My 2p worth -

Look carefully at the deals - best to start by working out what you want to end up with, a bundle with an extra wireless controller and one or two good games you would have bought anyway can save you some good pennies over a basic system.

Agree with the batteries one - although I would say (potentially I don't play enough...) I have as some alkaline AA batteries in my controllers and I'm still on the original set.

Network shannagans, well the wireless is £55 or thereabouts, but I use a cable. Now I started looking for these at all the high street/out of town electrical/computer/office places, and they were arounfd £25 for a Cat 6 (not necessary) cable of around 10m. Try Game - you can look under the (apologies for lanuage) PS3 sections too, but an RJ45 cable at 10m is less than £10. They're good too for optical cables (again, half the price of anywhere else) - in fact I got one free with the VGA adaptor (I found this the best way to make the most of the native resolution of my projector)

I run the cable across the landing to my router, and put it away when finished. This is useful to me as it sort of limits me using the 360. Alternatives are complete addiction, shortly followed by singledom and job loss.

Benefit of cable is though it does eliminate one other source of lag, however reports say the 360 adaptor is good, which it should be for the price!

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

226 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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My 2p worth too:
The benefit of the Play and charge kit is that you can leave Forza running endurance races and the controller wont time out (this pauses the game)

Always do what ever you can to get a wired network connection to your xbox, much less hassle and a solid connection (which is the ost important thing with playing online)

Comet do a really good deal on the Premium with Forza 2, Viva Pinata (keeps the gf/wife happy) and an extra wireless controller for 199

And finally, never buy a second hand 360!

franv8

2,212 posts

267 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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Yep, Viva Pinata worked for a bit, until the pull of Kevtris for my other half (Tetris clone) on her mobile retook a hold.


I'm trying to educate/enthuse her (Sciencebird) in Forza at the moment, despite the adddition now of the wheel and pedals this is not being the easy task I had hoped.

£199 - great deal - I paid £249 before Christmas for the same deal at Game - and I thought that was a good price then.

paulrandall

377 posts

238 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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I bought a 10m Cat5e cable from Toolstation for about £2.40

Works absolutely fine, and much cheaper than a wireless system, and 10m is pretty long