New Body or New Lens - my dilemma
Discussion
Can't afford both so here goes.
Current body - EOS350D
Lenses - Sig 28-300mm
Can 28-135mm IS
Can 18-55mm kit
I enjoy taking pictures of my family and wildlife but I have the bug (badly
) for motorsport photography.
I have been offered a 2yr old (boxed, mint cond) EOS20D for £250 and also been offered his 6 month old (immac) Sigma 50-500mm for £300 (when he sources a replacement).
I know the 20D will be a massive upgrade to the 350D but I have used the 50-500 on a few occasions for motorsport and it's amazing (and at a fantastic price, I think)
I'm leaning toward the lens as I have a camera that does the job (ok) but don't really have a lens that's any good for Motorsport.
Waddaya reckon, help me out please?
Thanks,
Scott
Current body - EOS350D
Lenses - Sig 28-300mm
Can 28-135mm IS
Can 18-55mm kit
I enjoy taking pictures of my family and wildlife but I have the bug (badly
) for motorsport photography.I have been offered a 2yr old (boxed, mint cond) EOS20D for £250 and also been offered his 6 month old (immac) Sigma 50-500mm for £300 (when he sources a replacement).
I know the 20D will be a massive upgrade to the 350D but I have used the 50-500 on a few occasions for motorsport and it's amazing (and at a fantastic price, I think)
I'm leaning toward the lens as I have a camera that does the job (ok) but don't really have a lens that's any good for Motorsport.
Waddaya reckon, help me out please?
Thanks,
Scott
IMO the 20D isn't a massive upgrade on the 350D.
Slightly better low light focusing, slightly better viewfinder, 5fps and more ergonomic but I'm sure your used to the 350d anyhow now.
It wont take better pictures than the 350d, the end result wont be any different.
Where as with the 20D you still wont have the lens to get you the shots you want.
IMO go for the lens or a 40D.
IMo the 50-500 if your buying new wait, theres a 150-500 OS replacement out very very soon.
Slightly better low light focusing, slightly better viewfinder, 5fps and more ergonomic but I'm sure your used to the 350d anyhow now.
It wont take better pictures than the 350d, the end result wont be any different.
Where as with the 20D you still wont have the lens to get you the shots you want.
IMO go for the lens or a 40D.
IMo the 50-500 if your buying new wait, theres a 150-500 OS replacement out very very soon.
MonkeyHanger said:
When paired with the right lens the 20D is a more than capable motorsport camera, i managed quite well with one for 2 years.
Trouble is its a lens or a camera, so the 20d wont be paired with the right lens.I'd take a poorer camera with the right lens over a beter body with no lens.
RobDickinson said:
MonkeyHanger said:
When paired with the right lens the 20D is a more than capable motorsport camera, i managed quite well with one for 2 years.
Trouble is its a lens or a camera, so the 20d wont be paired with the right lens.I'd take a poorer camera with the right lens over a beter body with no lens.
The only time i fire off bursts is for rallies where you're lucky to see the same car twice in a day and even then it's only 2 or 3 shots.
If the OP can only afford either the 20D OR the 50-500, perhaps selling the 350D and 70-300 would raise enough extra cash to fund both?
Thanks,
I find asking questions on here interesting to say the least as everyone's opinion wil varie slightly, even if in agreement. And it's all appreciated.
I'm constantly looking to improve my equipment as I improve so I was interested to note that body improvement wouldn't be drastic by upgrading here. But, if I could fund both is £250 a good/fair price for this body?
I also appreciate the advice given about different lenses. Probably the wrong way of thinking but I am swayed towards the Bigma (over recommended lenses) because I have used it and know its capabilities. By the same token I am aware that this lens is not F2.8 or even prime and that that could improve my shots no end. What would rough costs be for the 70-200 F2.8 + TC and/or for the 100-300 F4?
Thanks again for the sound advice,
Scott
I find asking questions on here interesting to say the least as everyone's opinion wil varie slightly, even if in agreement. And it's all appreciated.
I'm constantly looking to improve my equipment as I improve so I was interested to note that body improvement wouldn't be drastic by upgrading here. But, if I could fund both is £250 a good/fair price for this body?
I also appreciate the advice given about different lenses. Probably the wrong way of thinking but I am swayed towards the Bigma (over recommended lenses) because I have used it and know its capabilities. By the same token I am aware that this lens is not F2.8 or even prime and that that could improve my shots no end. What would rough costs be for the 70-200 F2.8 + TC and/or for the 100-300 F4?
Thanks again for the sound advice,
Scott
You could pick up a 20D + battery grip for the same sort of money off e bay.. but you dont have the advantage of knowing the seller and the bodies history as you do with your mates..
Re a wider lens.. For wildlife and family yes it may well be an advantage to get a shallower depth of field.. but if I remember correctly when it comes to M/sport your a bit of a pan fan.. in which case its doubtful you'll be using it wide open...
Go back over some of your favorite shots and see what aperture you used..
Re a wider lens.. For wildlife and family yes it may well be an advantage to get a shallower depth of field.. but if I remember correctly when it comes to M/sport your a bit of a pan fan.. in which case its doubtful you'll be using it wide open...
Go back over some of your favorite shots and see what aperture you used..
Piers_K said:
but if I remember correctly when it comes to M/sport your a bit of a pan fan.. in which case its doubtful you'll be using it wide open...
Yes, you are right. I read (and used) a lot of advice about panning, so as not to get 'static' cars out on the circuit. The slow shutter speeds can be achieved by dialling in smaller(?) apertures (F4/F6 upwards) in Av mode so I find that the Bigma aperture range works well for me. How often would you be called to use F2.8 when panning M/sport?I'll check my shots; I think most were around F8-F11 for Silverstone as I had to zoom more to get closer but at Cadwell you're closer so probably didn't go that high (F4-F6.3). Both were dull/overcast/rainy days too so sunny days wouldn't be problematic.
F2.8 would help in other aspects of photography but I lack that kind of money at the mo.
Thanks,
Scott
kybo said:
Piers_K said:
but if I remember correctly when it comes to M/sport your a bit of a pan fan.. in which case its doubtful you'll be using it wide open...
Yes, you are right. I read (and used) a lot of advice about panning, so as not to get 'static' cars out on the circuit. The slow shutter speeds can be achieved by dialling in smaller(?) apertures (F4/F6 upwards) in Av mode so I find that the Bigma aperture range works well for me. How often would you be called to use F2.8 when panning M/sport?I'll check my shots; I think most were around F8-F11 for Silverstone as I had to zoom more to get closer but at Cadwell you're closer so probably didn't go that high (F4-F6.3). Both were dull/overcast/rainy days too so sunny days wouldn't be problematic.
F2.8 would help in other aspects of photography but I lack that kind of money at the mo.
Thanks,
Scott
Then simply use the ISO setting to control aperture. Around f8-f10 (ish) is the general rule of thumb. Obviously if you're doing pans then the aperture may be totally different.
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