RE: A Petrolheads Guide to Carrier Bags

RE: A Petrolheads Guide to Carrier Bags

Wednesday 6th August 2003

A Petrolheads Guide to Carrier Bags

Simon Rockman has spent too much time at Bluewater...


How do you know just what the damage is when she has been shopping? You could ask - if you like sleeping on the sofa. Or you could wait for the next time you use the credit card and it’s declined.

You don’t really need to know exactly how bad things are, just the level of badness. And this can be gleaned from looking at the shopping bags in the porch. You already know that if the bag says “British Home Stores” it’s OK but if it says “Harvey Nichols” then it’s bad. But how do you judge between Monsoon, Oasis,  Kookai, Whistles and Zara?

If a friend announces that he’s just bought an Alfa Romeo 147 you instantly know all the inferences. He could have bought a Golf with the same money, but the Alfa has more style, it’s got four seats and goes almost as well as it looks. It’s why your girl goes to L K Bennet instead of The Gap.

Old Bags

So here is the essential guide to those shopping bags, translated into terms you can understand.

To get the ball rolling lets look at an example. Hennes also known as H&M. If you’ve seen the adverts you know they have very sexy models. And if you’ve seen your girl in Hennes underwear you know it looks good - but it isn’t expensive. It’s something that ‘girls in the know’ buy. It’s the Skoda Octavia RS of women’s shopping. Something where you have to ignore the label to see the quality.

We’ll start by categorising the Supermini shops. These concentrate more on fashion at a price rather than value. Shops that blokes know are easier to categorise. GAP is youngish and trendy. The Smart Car of the shopping world.

It’s sort of where Kookai wants to be, but Kookai is more ephemeral with a hint of cheeky and so is a good home for the Fiat Cinquento. None of the shopping bags in this category are going to break the bank, but some things will rapidly reach the charity shop. Monsoon is a mirror for the New Beetle. We all know that deep down it’s a Golf with a windscreen that’s difficult to see out of the edges and an over-played vase in the middle of the dashboard, but there is still something about it that means you ignore the extra cost and resale values.

And if you can’t afford a new car, and want something functional on a student budget you park your secondhand Astra outside Miss Selfridge.

Morgan

A step above in size but often better value, is the hot hatch class. Think Mango, think  Seat Leon. The same goes for Morgan  - the shop not the car – the cars are Burberry – Morgan is affordable and a bit cool - Seat Cupra. The new BMW MINI may have a blue and white propeller on it’s soul but like our Royal family it hides its Germanic roots and so fits the Village Fete ethos of Racing Green.

As we get older we tend to want something more substantial and the love of your life will stop walking past Cecil Gee and go inside. You’ll probably feel comfortable there too as it’s the BMW 330 of clothing stores. If you aspire to such things you’ll be in Diesel, a bit trendier abut trying desperately to be a BMW - Lexus 300.

A shop that has a better idea of what is its is the stark linen surroundings of Karen Millen. Somewhere I’ve always admired more for the shop fittings than  for what’s on the rails. But the emphasis is on being a bit BMW without the price and so gets married up with the fast-but-no-one-buys-them MG ZTT.

 There is a certain size of car which is particularly economic to make. Any smaller and the savings are not so great you can’t trim the cost. Any bigger and the punters start to demand more in toys and a badge. It’s why cars like the Peugot 605 and Ford Scorpio have been and gone. The mid-range is where the car manufacturers make most money and it’s the home of the mainstream dress shops. Think of La Senza as a Mercedes C320, Marks and Spencers as a Mondeo, Next as a VW Passat, Warehouse as a Ford Focus and with a bit more edge Zara isn’t just any Peugot but the 406 coupe. Oasis moves up in style and is akin to the revvy Honda S2000.

Then we get into the wallet stretching territory, the time when the till receipts get  hidden. You know that Laura Ashely is a pukka brand but you should be aware that it’s Volvo estate in price performance.  More predictable is Dickens and Jones, it’s an Audi A6 of a shop. A head purchase not a heart one.

French Connection. A simple marketing plan on top of medioca products - the RAV 4 of the clothes world, desperately hoping to get noticed.

4x4

 

Much more adult is  Ted Baker and the only similarity with French Connection is the drive to all four wheels. Ted Baker is establishment cool. Ted Baker is an old-school Range Rover with a bored out V8. It’s the image Timberland wants to generate but it can only manage a Jeep Cherokee equivalent. Helly Hansen is a brand that wants to be Range Rover big and impressive but is a bit too Tupperware to pull it off.

Crossing the line from store to designer we get Versace and Alexander McQueen. One Italian, one British both special and sexy. The Italian has to be a horsey car, a Ferrari 360 Modena and the Alexander McQueen a TVR, loud with great curves – a Tuscan. The more reserved Italian will wear Amani (proper Amani not Emporio) and this matches up to the reborn Maserati 4200GT. More practical is the sports car for the millionaire’s mistress, she will park the Mercedes SL500 outside Nicole Farhi or if she goes for the sharp Germanic lines of Jil Sander she’ll be a Porsche Boxster driver.  Much smarter and expensive is Joseph, purveyors of fine cashmere and even more English than the representative Bentley.

Hopefully this will make those shopping bags less threatening. That is until the missus cottons on and starts repacking the Versace skirts in H&M carriers. Just the excuse you need to buy that Ferrari...

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bugmeister

Original Poster:

812 posts

291 months

Wednesday 6th August 2003
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This is an invaluable aid that should be passed on to all the males of the species!!

CarZee

13,382 posts

274 months

Wednesday 6th August 2003
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lost me half way through the 2nd paragraph...

PetrolTed

34,443 posts

310 months

Wednesday 6th August 2003
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Perhaps if we did one for lettuce buyers about Sainsburys, Tescos...

CarZee

13,382 posts

274 months

Wednesday 6th August 2003
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umm.. touché??

dontlift

9,396 posts

265 months

Wednesday 6th August 2003
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there was me thinking "The Gap" was something you got warned about on the underground.

I have trainged "The Wife" to think that pound-stretcher is best and asda's george is a fashion guru

>> Edited by dontlift on Wednesday 6th August 12:36

AlexH

2,505 posts

291 months

Wednesday 6th August 2003
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Bloke who knows far too much about shopping said:
Think Mango, think Seat Leon.


A typo, surely?

PetrolTed

34,443 posts

310 months

Wednesday 6th August 2003
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Why, what should it be (uneducated in the ways of the high street).

raceboy

13,274 posts

287 months

Wednesday 6th August 2003
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Which well known PHer drives a Leon

>> Edited by raceboy on Wednesday 6th August 12:48

N17 TVR

2,937 posts

278 months

Wednesday 6th August 2003
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Ted - one can only assume it is a play on Mungo

clubsport

7,298 posts

265 months

Wednesday 6th August 2003
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very useful guide and perspective to our education.
I did not see Louis Vuitton mentioned ?
I don't know if their carriers have their own rules?
In the past having spent what I thought was sports car insurance money on a brown leather bag,is it so important to leave the shop with this bag inside one of their paper carriers????? please give me a clue.
Soft touch moi!?

ErnestM

11,621 posts

274 months

Wednesday 6th August 2003
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Spelled Armani wrong. Ask me how I know that, go on, ask me... (The answer is standing beside me in the piccie on my profile)

ErnestM

Paul V

4,489 posts

284 months

Wednesday 6th August 2003
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I have the problem that I’m dragged round Bluewater atleast once a week to witness the spending, why oh why did they open a huge shopping centre 5 minutes from my girlfriend’s house?

N17 TVR

2,937 posts

278 months

Wednesday 6th August 2003
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ErnestM said:
Spelled Armani wrong. Ask me how I know that, go on, ask me... (The answer is standing beside me in the piccie on my profile)

ErnestM


Ernest - you bought your wife at Armani

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

268 months

Wednesday 6th August 2003
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ErnestM said:
The answer is standing beside me in the piccie on my profile
Looks like a Lotus to me

ErnestM

11,621 posts

274 months

Wednesday 6th August 2003
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N17 TVR said:

ErnestM said:
Spelled Armani wrong. Ask me how I know that, go on, ask me... (The answer is standing beside me in the piccie on my profile)

ErnestM



Ernest - you bought your wife at Armani


Feels like it sometimes...

Conversation at the ErnestM household:
"But they're shoes, love. You didn't get, like, a house or something at that price?"

ErnestM

Big_M

5,602 posts

270 months

Wednesday 6th August 2003
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I really wanted to buy something from this shop we found in Switzerland so I could spend the next twelve months walking round with their carrier bag - but they were closed.

ErnestM

11,621 posts

274 months

Wednesday 6th August 2003
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Forgot one, by the way, the dreaded C H A N E L bag. That would be the Arnage/T of the Carrier Bags. If you see one of those white bags with black writing laying about, it's already too late, she has just taken out a second mortgage on the house

ErnestM

Gaffer

7,156 posts

284 months

Wednesday 6th August 2003
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Hermès Birkin - this handbag cost £11k. But as there is a waiting list of 9 months, if your famous and 2 years if your not and thats providing you can get onto the list in the first place, they are changing hands upwards of $80,000.

Claire

ErnestM

11,621 posts

274 months

Wednesday 6th August 2003
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Gaffer said:
Hermès Birkin - this handbag cost £11k. But as there is a waiting list of 9 months, if your famous and 2 years if your not and thats providing you can get onto the list in the first place, they are changing hands upwards of $80,000.

Claire


Shhhhhhh, not so loud... The wife is happy with the LV at the mo

ErnestM

Bob the Planner

4,695 posts

276 months

Thursday 7th August 2003
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Big_M said:
I really wanted to buy something from this shop we found in Switzerland so I could spend the next twelve months walking round with their carrier bag - but they were closed.