Driving Force GT wheel & GT5 Prologue
Discussion
Hello,
I've been browsing for a bit looking at GT5 prologue, and I've decided I'm definitely buying it tomorrow (well, I decided that when I finished GT4, when I played the Japanese prologue demo and when I played Forza 2...) even if it is 'just' a demo with 'only' 75ish cars and full online play.
As I was searching, however, I noticed lots of talk about dynamic driving adjustments, which is basically adjusting the ABS, TCS, ASM, VCD and a few other 3-letter acronyms while you drive with a special button on a special wheel, this wheel being the $150 (so about £75) Logitech Driving Force GT which isn't out yet. Thing is, I already have a Driving Force Pro, and the two look pretty similar except for the DFGT having a red knob and a few extra buttons on it. It has no clutch pedal, the SMG 'gearbox' flappy paddles are still just buttons on the back and not actual paddles, and I guess the force feedback motor still screams at you, so I don't know if its worth it really. Does anyone know much more than that about it, and are any Driving Force Pro owners amongst you considering the 'upgrade'?
And would anyone be interested in buying a Driving Force Pro...? I might ebay it for DFGT funds. Still, I really wanted a clutch pedal...
I've been browsing for a bit looking at GT5 prologue, and I've decided I'm definitely buying it tomorrow (well, I decided that when I finished GT4, when I played the Japanese prologue demo and when I played Forza 2...) even if it is 'just' a demo with 'only' 75ish cars and full online play.
As I was searching, however, I noticed lots of talk about dynamic driving adjustments, which is basically adjusting the ABS, TCS, ASM, VCD and a few other 3-letter acronyms while you drive with a special button on a special wheel, this wheel being the $150 (so about £75) Logitech Driving Force GT which isn't out yet. Thing is, I already have a Driving Force Pro, and the two look pretty similar except for the DFGT having a red knob and a few extra buttons on it. It has no clutch pedal, the SMG 'gearbox' flappy paddles are still just buttons on the back and not actual paddles, and I guess the force feedback motor still screams at you, so I don't know if its worth it really. Does anyone know much more than that about it, and are any Driving Force Pro owners amongst you considering the 'upgrade'?
And would anyone be interested in buying a Driving Force Pro...? I might ebay it for DFGT funds. Still, I really wanted a clutch pedal...
I've got a Drving Force Pro and have no intention of upgrading, but if my wheel does bite the dust i'll think about getting a G25 instead.
Here is something I read on Beyond3D
Here is something I read on Beyond3D
GT5:Prologue thread in the Beyond3D forum said:
Looks like its the G25 for me then...
QUOTE FROM
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=727678
"Hi.
My name's Chris, and I work for Logitech. I'm the product manager for both the Driving Force GT and the G25, as well as the G-series keyboards and some other stuff. I'm the guy in the YouTube video explaining how the DFGT's new realtime adjustment dial feature works. Now that GDC is over and the wheel is actually announced, I'll try and answer some of the questions I've seen about it.
The Driving Force GT (DFGT) is a direct replacement for the Driving Force Pro. It is not intended to address the same customer as the G25.
The pedals base has the same external design, but the internals were modified slightly to improve reliability and precision. Much like the G25 pedals, the DFGT's are set up with two parts - the pedal arm turns a gear that is affixed over the potentiometer shaft rather than turning the pot directly. This means that excessive force (and the subsequent deformation of the plastic) on the pedals can no longer cause the potentiometer to move out of tolerance and produce erratic values. The performance of the DFGT's pedals should be significantly improved over the Driving Force Pro's.
The force feedback transmission is a double-reduction, single-motor system. The gear ratio has been modified such that it is much smoother and quieter than the DFP's. It also features a backlash-reduction main gear similar to the system used in the G25. It does not generate the same amount of torque that the G25 does, as it only has one motor, but it does deliver the same amount of torque as the DFP.
I'll pop in and answer further questions as I can during the week. It's been quite hectic leading up to the announcement, and I think it will only calm down a little now. Hopefully I can get some pics up of the internals as well.
Quote:
The wheel feels more like the G25 than the DFP. It's a bit "heavier" to steer than the G25, but is much easier than the DFP. The G25 is able to be turned faster than the DFGT, though.
There is currently 6-speed support in the GT5:Prologue US version we demoed at GDC. Obviously, as we do not write the game, I cannot say definitively what the future holds for shifter/clutch support. I do not expect things to change, however. "
QUOTE FROM
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=727678
"Hi.
My name's Chris, and I work for Logitech. I'm the product manager for both the Driving Force GT and the G25, as well as the G-series keyboards and some other stuff. I'm the guy in the YouTube video explaining how the DFGT's new realtime adjustment dial feature works. Now that GDC is over and the wheel is actually announced, I'll try and answer some of the questions I've seen about it.
The Driving Force GT (DFGT) is a direct replacement for the Driving Force Pro. It is not intended to address the same customer as the G25.
The pedals base has the same external design, but the internals were modified slightly to improve reliability and precision. Much like the G25 pedals, the DFGT's are set up with two parts - the pedal arm turns a gear that is affixed over the potentiometer shaft rather than turning the pot directly. This means that excessive force (and the subsequent deformation of the plastic) on the pedals can no longer cause the potentiometer to move out of tolerance and produce erratic values. The performance of the DFGT's pedals should be significantly improved over the Driving Force Pro's.
The force feedback transmission is a double-reduction, single-motor system. The gear ratio has been modified such that it is much smoother and quieter than the DFP's. It also features a backlash-reduction main gear similar to the system used in the G25. It does not generate the same amount of torque that the G25 does, as it only has one motor, but it does deliver the same amount of torque as the DFP.
I'll pop in and answer further questions as I can during the week. It's been quite hectic leading up to the announcement, and I think it will only calm down a little now. Hopefully I can get some pics up of the internals as well.
Quote:
The wheel feels more like the G25 than the DFP. It's a bit "heavier" to steer than the G25, but is much easier than the DFP. The G25 is able to be turned faster than the DFGT, though.
There is currently 6-speed support in the GT5:Prologue US version we demoed at GDC. Obviously, as we do not write the game, I cannot say definitively what the future holds for shifter/clutch support. I do not expect things to change, however. "
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