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Just ended up having a Rull Respray. Car had lots of little annoying scratches (TVR paint chips far too easily) on several panels so was thinking of getting a respray done until found out a good one would be well over 2k! Based on that I would not have got it done - however when on a run out to Goodwood recently some knob reversed into the front (less than walking speed) while parked! in a garage consulting the map - didn't even look in the mirror. Very minor damage, minor bonnet and small crazing round number plate bar, but the front end would need a full respray. To cut along story short the nice man at the spray centre said that (on his insurance) they could do squeeze alot of the minor scratches on one side and back in on the quote as well as the front (ha I grovelled!), but not the whole car.
When I got it back the bits done were fantastic - but you could see the difference in paint on the 1/4 not stretched to on the quote - so I bit the bullet and asked them to do the rest a week or two later.
Should get it back friday - based on the 3/4 done a few weeks back it will be as good or better than anything the factory ever turned out.
If I sell it, any idea what kind of premium I could asked based on the above? (Have wanted a late Cerb for a while so would have been looking to sell soon anyway). But a good til as the car looks so good - before I get any more scratches.....
Cheers
Jon
When I got it back the bits done were fantastic - but you could see the difference in paint on the 1/4 not stretched to on the quote - so I bit the bullet and asked them to do the rest a week or two later.
Should get it back friday - based on the 3/4 done a few weeks back it will be as good or better than anything the factory ever turned out.
If I sell it, any idea what kind of premium I could asked based on the above? (Have wanted a late Cerb for a while so would have been looking to sell soon anyway). But a good til as the car looks so good - before I get any more scratches.....
Cheers
Jon
Why would a car 5 year old necassarily be immaculate,
this could only apply to a non-driven car. The pleasure I got from it was driving it - the odd scratch although annoying did not effect performance or reliablity (never missed a beat in 2 years more important to me), I see you point but it is hardly a realistic one.
this could only apply to a non-driven car. The pleasure I got from it was driving it - the odd scratch although annoying did not effect performance or reliablity (never missed a beat in 2 years more important to me), I see you point but it is hardly a realistic one.
I think it would depend on how knowledgeable your potential buyer is. People who don't know that fibreglass cars stone chip easily will be put off by the idea that it has been re-sprayed as it may indicate the car had been in an accident. Only of course your car has been in an accident. Which will put some people off never mind make them pay extra.
How is someone to know it didn't have a big shunt that has been repaired rather than the very low speed minor bump it actually had? Did you take some pre-repair photos to show potential punters?
You know that your car is a good 'un, but you may have a job convincing others.
Sorry this is probably not what you wnat to hear, but I think you need to be realistic - a lot of people don't like the idea of buying a car that has had bodywork repaired - however irrational that may be.
How is someone to know it didn't have a big shunt that has been repaired rather than the very low speed minor bump it actually had? Did you take some pre-repair photos to show potential punters?
You know that your car is a good 'un, but you may have a job convincing others.
Sorry this is probably not what you wnat to hear, but I think you need to be realistic - a lot of people don't like the idea of buying a car that has had bodywork repaired - however irrational that may be.
If the owner before last had had it respayed and not mentioned it, then how would anyone know? Can you ever guarantee that a TVR hasn't had some form of respray in it's past.
I fancy redoing mine as it needs a front end spray, so why not have the whole car done and make it look immaculate? Anyone who has the car properly inspected and then is still put off a perfectly good and reliable car because of some new paint is a bit silly if you ask me.
been waiting ages to use that
>> Edited by burriana500 on Wednesday 6th August 13:10
I fancy redoing mine as it needs a front end spray, so why not have the whole car done and make it look immaculate? Anyone who has the car properly inspected and then is still put off a perfectly good and reliable car because of some new paint is a bit silly if you ask me.
been waiting ages to use that
>> Edited by burriana500 on Wednesday 6th August 13:10
Yes I agree - but you and I are 'in the know', whilst many potential buyers are not.
My Griff had a full respray by the main dealer I bought it from. It looked stunning. But I still contacted the previous owner and asked him about its condition pre-respray, plus spoke to the dealer that had serviced it, and got it in writing from the selling dealer that the respray was due to stone chipping and light scratches. So I was happy.
When I sold the car I told people that it had a respray. This made one guy who was otherwise beside himself with enthusiasm for the car - suspicious - despite the fact that the car had never had even the slightest bump - and try as I might I could not convince him otherwise. I even gave him the phone number of the previous owner. And offered to send him the e mail I had from the dealer confirming why it had been sprayed. To no avail.
To be fair there were a couple of other factors. The car was looked after for me by Steve Howard (ex Thames Valley Racetech, now trading as Precision Racing Limited). The punter called TVRCC and asked who Precision Racing were and TVRCC said 'Precision who?'. I tried to get him to call TVRCC back and ask who Steve Howard was, or look on PH, or call the factory and ask about Steve, or call Dom at TVR Power who knows Steve AND my car having changed the camshaft - but the guy was spooked and that was that.
I'm afraid people will still be suspicious. Not all, but you will lose some potential buyers.
My Griff had a full respray by the main dealer I bought it from. It looked stunning. But I still contacted the previous owner and asked him about its condition pre-respray, plus spoke to the dealer that had serviced it, and got it in writing from the selling dealer that the respray was due to stone chipping and light scratches. So I was happy.
When I sold the car I told people that it had a respray. This made one guy who was otherwise beside himself with enthusiasm for the car - suspicious - despite the fact that the car had never had even the slightest bump - and try as I might I could not convince him otherwise. I even gave him the phone number of the previous owner. And offered to send him the e mail I had from the dealer confirming why it had been sprayed. To no avail.
To be fair there were a couple of other factors. The car was looked after for me by Steve Howard (ex Thames Valley Racetech, now trading as Precision Racing Limited). The punter called TVRCC and asked who Precision Racing were and TVRCC said 'Precision who?'. I tried to get him to call TVRCC back and ask who Steve Howard was, or look on PH, or call the factory and ask about Steve, or call Dom at TVR Power who knows Steve AND my car having changed the camshaft - but the guy was spooked and that was that.
I'm afraid people will still be suspicious. Not all, but you will lose some potential buyers.
Griff2be said:The outer shell on a tiv really is just decoration. People in the know, ie real enthusiasts, will appreciate that a good repair is as good as the original
I'm afraid people will still be suspicious. Not all, but you will lose some potential buyers.
But if people don't want to reasearch their purchases, insist on a FTVRSH rather than FSH, and are prepared to pay through the ose for it, it can only help keep the residuals up IMHO
Ben
Incorrigible said:
I'm afraid people will still be suspicious. Not all, but you will lose some potential buyers.
The outer shell on a tiv really is just decoration. People in the know, ie real enthusiasts, will appreciate that a good repair is as good as the original
But if people don't want to reasearch their purchases, insist on a FTVRSH rather than FSH, and are prepared to pay through the ose for it, it can only help keep the residuals up IMHO
Ben
Well it keeps residuals up for those cars with a FTVRSH....
I agree with you Ben - its just a lot of first time TVR buyers are not as informed as they might be....
A cosmetic respray should make no difference to a seriuos knowledgable buyer.. Most good dealers do a front end respray (if needed) as a matter of course, they do pick up the stone chips.
Even my old Griff 4.3, which I stuffed and did £9k damage to. When fully repaired/resprayed got the full asking trade in price when I upgraded to a 500 at Hawthorns.. Work had been done via SHG/Hawthorns.
B
Even my old Griff 4.3, which I stuffed and did £9k damage to. When fully repaired/resprayed got the full asking trade in price when I upgraded to a 500 at Hawthorns.. Work had been done via SHG/Hawthorns.
B
bjwoods said:
A cosmetic respray should make no difference to a seriuos knowledgable buyer.. Most good dealers do a front end respray (if needed) as a matter of course, they do pick up the stone chips.
Even my old Griff 4.3, which I stuffed and did £9k damage to. When fully repaired/resprayed got the full asking trade in price when I upgraded to a 500 at Hawthorns.. Work had been done via SHG/Hawthorns.
B
As an aside, is there a patter of small B feet yet?
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