Opinions Sought... Please!
Opinions Sought... Please!
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GTWayne

4,595 posts

246 months

Saturday 22nd March 2008
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MunkeeMan said:
1) What would be the effect of NOT having a duct moulded in?
2) Is the under bonnet air pressure significant enough to warrant the expense?
3) Would a simple meshed grill cut into the bonnet (like on the rear clip) more or less achieve the same effect as the duct?
4) Does the standard 350 SBC suffer from significant oil surge in 'spirited' road driving conditions?
5) Is the accusump option actually any good?
6) Is there a universally acknowledged 'better' wet sump pan than the original?
1) Not having a duct is not the end of the world as sthotfast will testify ( he does not have one on his Sport )
2) It is a positive addition but not essential for a road car and the benefit would only be noticed on the track IMO
3) No, the path from the grill mouth through the bonnet vent as found on the GTR/CanAm is ducted with the idea to reduce frontal resistance and push the front of the car down
4) It can do depending on the sump used but normal road use will not usually cause a problem
5) The Accusump, if fitted and working correctly, is a good half way house
6) Just use a sump with the largest capacity you can fit that is well baffled and has trap doors if possible


It has just occurred to me that you most certainly could do no worse than discuss your situation with Paul ( sthotfast ) and I am sure he will have the answers to many of your questions, good luck thumbup

Edited by GTWayne on Saturday 22 March 16:40

BogBeast

1,144 posts

292 months

Monday 24th March 2008
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I think the duct benefits cooling alot.. Can the duct not be glassed in? (I take it you are paining the front..)

BogBeast

1,144 posts

292 months

Monday 24th March 2008
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I believe the same resin is generally used (I think your nose cone is wet layup) and its just the mat material thats diffent.. Probably a question for whovever produced the molding..

shithotfast

1,134 posts

297 months

Monday 24th March 2008
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MunkeeMan said:
I'm putting together an unfinished Spyder - I have no previous Ultima / SBC experience, so please bear with me while I ask all the stupid questions that I have in my head!

At present I have a Carbon Fibre nose, but it does not have the central bonnet duct like all the other cars I've seen. I don't really want the expense of sending the nose off to a CF workshop to have the duct fitted, so I ask...

1) What would be the effect of NOT having a duct moulded in?
2) Is the under bonnet air pressure significant enough to warrant the expense?
3) Would a simple meshed grill cut into the bonnet (like on the rear clip) more or less achieve the same effect as the duct?

Also, I'm torn between fitting the traditional Spyder wing, or one simlar to that used on the Can-Am. Again, any opinions?
My experience is:

1) I dont have the duct - I think it looks cleaner IMO - but also - If you drive a spyder WITH the duct - in winter you get 120 deg hot air in your face! good news, but in the summer in traffic and the fans come on - you get 120 deg hot air in your face! not good news! (although not sure if Scotland has a summer (tee heee)

2) no. You should get greater down force as the front is so flat, and less drag.
3) put a ali barrier between the area with the battery and rack and the rad. The hot air then flows away to each frontwheel. I do not get any overheating issues.

Wing - got to be the spyder wing! Told you this before - You no rissen cookie boy!

GtrSimon

127 posts

249 months

Monday 24th March 2008
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on bonding to carbon I think if its made correctly it will be with epoxy resin where as fibre glass normally uses polyester resin.

shithotfast

1,134 posts

297 months

Tuesday 25th March 2008
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MunkeeMan said:
Thanks chaps... I will defo be going down the original wing route if I can 'do' the roll-hoops.

Was moving the wing the other day... it's a heavy bugger!
And as its a real wing it needs fully bonding to the rear bodywork - not something you want to come off at 160mph!
Mine is bonded and bolted and glass fibred

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Tuesday 25th March 2008
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MunkeeMan said:
PS - any opinions on the Viper engine? Or is that a dirty word round these parts?
Not an opinion as such more a question. Why?

It will not be as readily available as say an SBC.
Spares and performance improvements will not be as available or cheap.

So why would I want one?

Steve

GTRCLIVE

4,193 posts

312 months

Tuesday 25th March 2008
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MunkeeMan said:
PS - any opinions on the Viper engine? Or is that a dirty word round these parts?
Not dirty, but wieght is the enemy of all Ultimas...
So a viper motor would be lets say not worth the effort, and buy the way it wont fitt in the standard frame to dam long