RE: Tygan Speedster

Monday 3rd March 2008

Tygan Speedster

The Porsche Speedster is a fifties icon. But can you be rock and roll in a replica? Ollie Stallwood investigates...



James Dean. Is it really because of a fifties American film star that I am pulling into an industrial estate in Dorset on a cold February afternoon? After all it was Dean who managed, in his short time on this earth, to make a small German convertible one of the most desirable cars on the road, even 50 years after it was launched. While America was, and still is, obsessed with cars that are big in every sense, and American masculinity can be judged on the size of a V8, the Porsche Speedster was an unlikely choice for an uber-cool film star like Dean.


But Dean loved the curved, slightly effeminate, look of the Speedster, which had been born out of the desire for a sleeker version of the Porsche 356. Dean will forever be linked to the car, having briefly driven and raced one of the first ever pre-A Speedsters, but it was the faster 550 Spyder that finally immortalised him, following his fatal crash on September 30, 1955. However it was his carefree, rebellious style that was reflected in the stripped-out Speedster. It was a car made for jumping into and heading off down the California coastline, Marlboro clenched between your lips as you stuck two fingers up to however was behind you. Now, over half a century on, the Speedster remains iconic, and is a car loved by both men and women.

But original Speedsters are becoming increasingly rare, expensive (£80-£100,000) and many collectors would rather tuck them away in a garage instead of shove a surfboard in the back and head to the beach. It is for this reason Dorset-based Tygan produces Speedster replicas, cars that provide the dream but in a more practical package. Tygan is one of Britain’s newest sports car manufacturers and since its birth last February there has been in excess of £500,000 worth of investment in a new manufacturing facility in Beaminster, Dorset. Each car takes two weeks to hand-build from start to finish by 11 people and customers can specify anything from a heated windscreen to discs all round. So far Tygan has sold 26 cars since trading started last June and the company is on target to make 71 cars this year.

The light metallic blue car that I first clap eyes


on when I walk into the factory looks stunning. It is a beautiful shape and, like all Tygans I am told, has been made from a mould taken from an original Speedster. Interestingly, there are a couple of small leather rear seats fitted behind the main buckets – something the original never had – and I’m told a lot of customers specify them. The cars can be painted any colour you want (Mini Pepper White is said to look particularly nice) and it is testament to the new painting facility that the cars belie their GRP composite roots. Nearby there is a black Tygan Speedster – one of 20 that have been created exclusively for Porsche specialist Gmund Cars - which sits on replica five-spoke Fuchs alloys, has disc brakes all round, a sports exhaust and a 2.0 litre Volkswagen -based engine. These cars will sell for £35,995 each, which takes them into the league of some pretty tasty classics. In the corner is a mid-engined 550 Spyder replica that will have a choice between a 2.0l or 2.2l twin Weber carb VW-derived engine – Tygan hope to

have the first Spyders ready for summer.

Production of the Speedsters starts at a Beetle but the only part that is retained is the spine, which is needed to retain the old registration, and all other parts are new. From there Tygan builds up the chassis and fits the bodyshell and all other parts. The re-engineered Arnie Levics engines are four-cylinder air-cooled 1600s, 1800s, or 2 litres, have zero miles, and are made using all new parts. The basic entry cars have a swing arm suspension, while the ‘Sport’ and ‘Lifestyle’ have independent rear suspension.

Today I will be driving a silver 1800cc Tygan with twin Weber carbs. Being 6ft 2”, I could probably do with the lowered floor option, but leg and elbow room is fine. Having owned a Beetle there is a familiarity to the way the Tygan starts, but everything feels brand new. The gear lever clicks neatly into first and the shift action is short and incredibly precise – not something I would expect from an original.


Having 118bhp and an 1800cc engine, in a 850kg car, I am expecting sprightly performance – but this is no fire cracker. Instead you find yourself thrashing the low-revving flat four while snicking the gear leaver between third and fourth. The car doesn’t feel as blustery as I thought it would, despite the screen being about a foot high.

It soon becomes clear this car is more about an ‘experience’ than making fast progress across country. The experience itself is enjoyable and the car has the kind of honest feel that has long


since disappeared from modern cars. The steering is light and the Tygan doesn’t bounce around like I thought it might and rides reasonably well, although it is not the last word in composure. The Tygan does feel like it wants to be tail happy, although the amount of power on offer doesn’t quite manage it. The only problem with the Tygan is it does remind you of a VW Beetle, and considering its make-up this is understandable. I know the 356 and the Beetle’s roots are interwoven but there is no escaping the fact that this car is more VW than Porsche.


Tygan has just supplied the first left hand-drive car to Italy where it will be used as a run-around for its owner, which admittedly does have a certain appeal. But this brings me to the price, which starts at £22,000 for the base model, through the £28,500 fully loaded ‘Lifestyle’ model, to the £36,000 Gmund car. Flicking through Classic & Sports Car I found a 356A cabrio with an MOT for £37,000.

The Tygan is fun to drive, especially on a summer’s day I imagine, and what you get is classic looks but with added practicality and


reliability. Tygans will appeal to a certain type of person, but there will always be those who will want their classic to be exactly that – classic. But if it has to be a Speedster and you haven’t got £100,000, the Tygan does come with a two-year warranty and, ironically, is a British car. I just wonder whether James Dean would have gone for the heated windscreen…

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Discussion

Doshy

Original Poster:

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224 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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Nice article. Wouldn't it be a tad more interesting if they dropped an air cooled Porker engine in the back? Just a thought.

Phil.



dinkel

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Davi

17,153 posts

227 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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"it is testament to the new painting facility that the cars belie their GRP composite roots."

I really do wonder about the levels of intelligence on this site sometimes. Virtually every time GRP is mentioned you can almost see the spittle flying from the authors mouth as their disdain shines through.

Some of the most exotic cars built have been from composites, and without it motor racing would be in the dark ages.

briSk

14,291 posts

233 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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dinkel said:
nice. i hadn't heard of this firm. IRS too which has to go in it's favour. not clear on cost though - there's a pre-enjoyed 2006 canadian model for can$54,000. but it sayas something about an italian arm. and to be honest a dub engine's a dub engine so servicing would be fine...

Fetchez la vache

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221 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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If I recall, the last time an article cropped up to do with Tygan (and before it descended into a verbal war) there was talk of one or more non VW-based power plants.

Any updates on this?

smash

2,062 posts

235 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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Two articles on replica's in a week and it's very clear OliS is not a replica lover - at least Porsche replica's haven't been decreed a "crime against style" unlike any Ferrari ones, lol!

Twincam16

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265 months

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There's a bloke who commutes in a Chesil speedster in the office opposite ours. Stunning-looking car and as far as replicas go it's pretty authentic mechanically, but there is one question I have:

If you make it reliable enough to drive every day, does it lose its special appeal?

For me, if I had a car like that, I reckon I'd only use it for special occasions and holidays, no matter how reliable it was. Somehow using it every day reduces its duties to that of an average repmobile.

Fittster

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220 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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Isn't someone who posts on here part of the management team?

briSk

14,291 posts

233 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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Twincam16 said:
If you make it reliable enough to drive every day, does it lose its special appeal?

For me, if I had a car like that, I reckon I'd only use it for special occasions and holidays, no matter how reliable it was. Somehow using it every day reduces its duties to that of an average repmobile.
to a certain extent i agree.
maybe it's the sort of thing you'd want to wait for a lovely spring morning to take to work sort of thing.
there is a danger you'd just get frustrated by it's 'character' as opposed to loving it for its character..

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i want to know more on the tygan engine situation too.
personally i think they should go subaru NA four in 2.0 and 2.5 (at least as an option).

Fittster

20,120 posts

220 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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Is Mon Ami Mate still involved with these?

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

216 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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I am suprised that Porsche have not stepped in to stop then putting Porsche badges on the car.

hairy

323 posts

247 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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heard of a bloke running an turbo impreza motor in one of these, was described as "frightening"

dinkel

27,177 posts

265 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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odyssey2200 said:
I am suprised that Porsche have not stepped in to stop then putting Porsche badges on the car.
Why?

Moose.

5,342 posts

248 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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Lovely cars but I really think it's a shame they're not going to offer these as kits like Chesil did.

Neek

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214 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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My dad has a chesil speedster (chesil was taken over by Tygan) - It is running a 1.8l beetle engine.

The car is based on a beetle chassis and has a fibreglass body

a few pictures here:







George

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

216 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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dinkel said:
odyssey2200 said:
I am suprised that Porsche have not stepped in to stop then putting Porsche badges on the car.
Why?
Because its not a Porsche and big companies like Porsche get VERY protective of their brand and trade mark.

I seriously doubt that Prosche wouold have given permission to Tygan to use it.


DennisTheMenace

15,605 posts

275 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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I live in Beaminster and havent seen a single one of these driving about , also Atom are not far away and you hardly see them either

ricola

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Monday 3rd March 2008
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hairy said:
heard of a bloke running an turbo impreza motor in one of these, was described as "frightening"
That was me, along with Porsche running gear, it was also my daily car for 5 years...

I'm surprised Tygan have put Porsche badges on, Chesil never did...

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

216 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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Obviously Porsches legal dept is busy giving Ken a rough ride!hehe

Edited by odyssey2200 on Monday 3rd March 15:56

greggers

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Monday 3rd March 2008
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Davi said:
"it is testament to the new painting facility that the cars belie their GRP composite roots."

I really do wonder about the levels of intelligence on this site sometimes. Virtually every time GRP is mentioned you can almost see the spittle flying from the authors mouth as their disdain shines through.

Some of the most exotic cars built have been from composites, and without it motor racing would be in the dark ages.
Agreed, wouldn't do them any harm to proof read their articles either... Especially when they haven't issued an apology for not doing a 'Shed of the week' article last Friday.