TVRS IN TODAYS AUTOCAR
TVRS IN TODAYS AUTOCAR
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TOV!E

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2,016 posts

264 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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On page 19 of todays AUTOCAR there hack Steve Cropley says " After a while i started exponding my own TVR theory, which is that the cars of the past 20 years- especially those with TVR ENGINES will one day be huge classics.
Reasons? Huge eye appleal,huge performance, fantastic engine sound and fast growing nostalgia for the days when cars were made the way creators wanted them to be. Specialists now know how to mend TVRS so they stay mended" ect, ect.

custardkid

2,514 posts

254 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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TOV!E said:
On page 19 of todays AUTOCAR there hack Steve Cropley says " After a while i started exponding my own TVR theory, which is that the cars of the past 20 years- especially those with TVR ENGINES will one day be huge classics.
Reasons? Huge eye appleal,huge performance, fantastic engine sound and fast growing nostalgia for the days when cars were made the way creators wanted them to be. Specialists now know how to mend TVRS so they stay mended" ect, ect.
clap

KillerJim

972 posts

233 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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Hopefully I`ll be able to sell my Sagaris back to Racing Green in 30 years and make some money - just like all the nice E type's they have for £80k biggrin

James

lazy

19,931 posts

296 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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TOV!E said:
On page 19 of todays AUTOCAR there hack Steve Cropley says " After a while i started exponding my own TVR theory, which is that the cars of the past 20 years- especially those with TVR ENGINES will one day be huge classics.
Reasons? Huge eye appleal,huge performance, fantastic engine sound and fast growing nostalgia for the days when cars were made the way creators wanted them to be. Specialists now know how to mend TVRS so they stay mended" ect, ect.
Quality. And sense. thumbup

V8 GRF

7,299 posts

240 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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TOV!E said:
On page 19 of todays AUTOCAR there hack Steve Cropley says " After a while i started exponding my own TVR theory, which is that the cars of the past 20 years- especially those with TVR ENGINES will one day be huge classics.
Reasons? Huge eye appleal,huge performance, fantastic engine sound and fast growing nostalgia for the days when cars were made the way creators wanted them to be. Specialists now know how to mend TVRS so they stay mended" ect, ect.
clap Good man I've alaways thought Steve Cropley talked a lot of sense, then again he's a straight talking Aussie. biggrin

zadumbreion

1,049 posts

250 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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TOV!E said:
On page 19 of todays AUTOCAR there hack Steve Cropley says " After a while i started exponding my own TVR theory, which is that the cars of the past 20 years- especially those with TVR ENGINES will one day be huge classics.
Reasons? Huge eye appleal,huge performance, fantastic engine sound and fast growing nostalgia for the days when cars were made the way creators wanted them to be. Specialists now know how to mend TVRS so they stay mended" ect, ect.
Funny - whilst driving home tonight, roof off, I thought - this is what sports cars used to be, and should be. I really enjoyed it. Definitely felt some sort of connection with the past.

Simpo Two

92,861 posts

295 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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I suspect history will earmark the Griffith (1990s version) as the classic/most famous/most important TVR.

Cerberowner

385 posts

243 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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Simpo Two said:
I suspect history will earmark the Griffith (1990s version) as the classic/most famous/most important TVR.
You would say that though wouldn't you smile

philcerb

102 posts

237 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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Some TVR's with good history and in good condition will appreciate in price in the long term as they will never build most models again (small numbers).
After 3 veiwings and 1 specialist inspection and 2 offers (not enough) i will be holding on to my Sagaris and waiting for the right offer.

Simpo Two

92,861 posts

295 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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Cerberowner said:
Simpo Two said:
I suspect history will earmark the Griffith (1990s version) as the classic/most famous/most important TVR.
You would say that though wouldn't you smile
I see your angle but no, if you take a step back and look at the history of TVR as a whole, and if the pundits of the future can only choose one model as *the* quintessential essence of TVR, then I think it will be the Griffith. Economically the Chimaera made them the most money, and the Cerbera is probably somewhere in between. I think history will show that TVR made a brave, but wrong, decision when they abandoned proven V8s in favour of their own design straight six. I think it's no coincidence that TVR failed not long afterwards (although the nail in the coffin was schoolboy management).

SEN 18

1,247 posts

242 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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Simpo Two said:
Cerberowner said:
Simpo Two said:
I suspect history will earmark the Griffith (1990s version) as the classic/most famous/most important TVR.
You would say that though wouldn't you smile
I see your angle but no, if you take a step back and look at the history of TVR as a whole, and if the pundits of the future can only choose one model as *the* quintessential essence of TVR, then I think it will be the Griffith. Economically the Chimaera made them the most money, and the Cerbera is probably somewhere in between. I think history will show that TVR made a brave, but wrong, decision when they abandoned proven V8s in favour of their own design straight six. I think it's no coincidence that TVR failed not long afterwards (although the nail in the coffin was schoolboy management).
Correct. What a plonker the wet behind the ears schoolboy turned out to be.

FUBAR

17,065 posts

268 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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Simpo Two said:
I suspect history will earmark the Cerbera as the fastest/biggest baddest/MOFO of a TVR.evil
EFA wink

cloggy

4,959 posts

239 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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Simpo Two said:
Cerberowner said:
Simpo Two said:
I suspect history will earmark the Griffith (1990s version) as the classic/most famous/most important TVR.
You would say that though wouldn't you smile
I see your angle but no, if you take a step back and look at the history of TVR as a whole, and if the pundits of the future can only choose one model as *the* quintessential essence of TVR, then I think it will be the Griffith. Economically the Chimaera made them the most money, and the Cerbera is probably somewhere in between. I think history will show that TVR made a brave, but wrong, decision when they abandoned proven V8s in favour of their own design straight six. I think it's no coincidence that TVR failed not long afterwards (although the nail in the coffin was schoolboy management).
But the Chimaera was designed to iron out those design faults of the Griffith remember.
An improved mark II.

TGJR

750 posts

258 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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Griffith put TVR on the map properly and is probably the prettiest TVR IMO so looks set for future classic status. Like all classics that hold money well, however, the car must be reasonably low mileage, as it left the factory and excellent history.

The Sag as the last and best TVR must also have a spot, especially with just 150 built. Basically any TVR in nice original condition with history will be a desirable classic in 20 years or so. Its relevant to price too. A lovely Chim could be bought now for £15k and under but Sag's still demand £30k and over.

ALL owners should consider themselves keepers of a piece of British sports car history.

Obiwonkeyblokey

5,400 posts

270 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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I agree that the Griff will probably become the most iconic TVR, however in terms of importance it would never have arrived if it wasnt for the S.

Derek Smith

49,892 posts

278 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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Obiwonkeyblokey said:
I agree that the Griff will probably become the most iconic TVR, however in terms of importance it would never have arrived if it wasnt for the S.
One could say the same thing about the M, except more so. It put TVR into a different league. Circa 2,500 in 8 years. The overall design was so timeless that it was brought back for the T350.

One should remember that the Griff started life as 'merely' (no offence meant, S-Club attendees) a rebodied SV8.

Buffoon

881 posts

234 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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FUBAR said:
Simpo Two said:
I suspect history will earmark the Cerbera as the fastest/biggest baddest/MOFO of a TVR.evil
EFA wink
Spot onbiglaugh

To put it into context, what would you rather own... James Galway's Flute or a Hendrix Guitar?hehe

profstoff

1,272 posts

257 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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Buffoon said:
James Galway's Flute or a Hendrix Guitar?hehe
Imagine all that spit in Galway's flute, so unhygienic. Mind you I guess the same could be said of Hendrix guitar.

The Cerbera might lay claim to the baddest, meanest, wickedest TVR but I don't think history will look upon it as the most iconic. Also, the Sagaris, although of historical significance as the last model produced, did not really catch the public's eye. Chims (and wedges?) were produced in too great a quantity to make it to desirable status.

That leaves Griffs, S's and the early ones. The latter are already considered Classics and good ones fetch a heady price. I kick myself for selling the Grantura when I did. The S was a budget model and, at least at the moment, does not seem to be rising in value.

Therefore, if you want to bag a bargain that will be a future innvestment, buy a Griff.

profstoff

1,272 posts

257 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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Buffoon said:
James Galway's Flute or a Hendrix Guitar?hehe
Imagine all that spit in Galway's flute, so unhygienic. Mind you I guess the same could be said of Hendrix guitar.

The Cerbera might lay claim to the baddest, meanest, wickedest TVR but I don't think history will look upon it as the most iconic. Also, the Sagaris, although of historical significance as the last model produced, did not really catch the public's eye. Chims (and wedges?) were produced in too great a quantity to make it to desirable status.

That leaves Griffs, S's and the early ones. The latter are already considered Classics and good ones fetch a heady price. I kick myself for selling the Grantura when I did. The S was a budget model and, at least at the moment, does not seem to be rising in value.

Therefore, if you want to bag a bargain that will be a future innvestment, buy a Griff.

trackcar

6,453 posts

256 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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Derek Smith said:
One could say the same thing about the M, except more so. It put TVR into a different league. Circa 2,500 in 8 years. The overall design was so timeless that it was brought back for the T350.
That one's lost on me .. how is the T350 in any way like the M series of cars?