The Herald of Free Enterprise/Flushing Range

The Herald of Free Enterprise/Flushing Range

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ganglandboss

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8,425 posts

218 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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On the thread asking whether the BA plane crash landed can be repaired, the Somebody mentioned that the Herald of Free Enterprise was raised and put back into service. This however was not the case but it was re-floated and renamed the 'Flushing Range' for a one way trip to India to be scrapped.



The first question is how do they raise a ship? This picture answers most of the question, plus I understand it was resting on a sand bank which prevented it sinking entirely. Has anything that size ever been raised from fully submerged?



Does anyone know how it got to India? Did they get it going again under it's own power or was it towed?

I wonder how it must have felt being one of the crew on that voyage knowing how many had died on-board?

D_T_W

2,502 posts

230 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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I would imagine they would fill sealed compartments with high pressure air, or use airbags in unsealable areas.

Raising ships isn't that hard to do, it's getting them suitable for use again is the hard part.

Several battleships sunk at Pearl Harbour for example were raised, refitted and put back into service within 2 years.

Fallen Angel

2,317 posts

224 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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I can't answer your questions but I did have to get the ferry back home just shortly after that event and went by it...... very very very fooooookin unnerving for me frown

angel

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

219 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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The Tricolour was a pretty spectacular wreck removal

Edit- remove hotlinking nasty.

Edited by Gaz. on Saturday 2nd July 18:13

ganglandboss

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Friday 8th February 2008
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thinfourth2 said:
The Tricolour was a pretty spectacular wreck removal
That one was chopped up though as opposed to being fully re-floated. Still interesting though. That must wave been one big cheese wire!

Edited by Gaz. on Saturday 2nd July 18:13

Snoggledog

8,625 posts

232 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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ing big bags dropped down to the wreck, strapped to the hull and slowly inflated. Or if it's an easy one to get at then cranes.

Edited by Snoggledog on Friday 8th February 10:48

dan1981

17,724 posts

214 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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have you never seen Ghostbusters?

Fume Troll

4,389 posts

227 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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The Mighty Servant 3 sank offshore West Africa, in shallow water, and was recovered. I think it was about 30,000 tons (probably when not filled with seawater!)

Cheers,

FT.

The jiffle king

7,199 posts

273 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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thinfourth2 said:
The Tricolour was a pretty spectacular wreck removal
We sailed right past this 3-4 years ago on our way from Ostend to Dover and the marking out of the danger zone. You knew the zone was there, but you had to be close to really see the zone, hence the danger to all craft. When we sailed past, within 10 minutes, the fog came in and we could see very little and relied on radar, so raising this craft was the right thing

T-J-K

Edited by Gaz. on Saturday 2nd July 18:14

spitfire-ian

3,974 posts

243 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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ganglandboss said:
Does anyone know how it got to India? Did they get it going again under it's own power or was it towed?
Towed at a guess

tank slapper

7,949 posts

298 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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The jiffle king said:
thinfourth2 said:
The Tricolour was a pretty spectacular wreck removal
We sailed right past this 3-4 years ago on our way from Ostend to Dover and the marking out of the danger zone. You knew the zone was there, but you had to be close to really see the zone, hence the danger to all craft. When we sailed past, within 10 minutes, the fog came in and we could see very little and relied on radar, so raising this craft was the right thing

T-J-K
The fact that it was surrounded by buoys, radar reflectors, had a guard vessel, and warnings broadcast every 3 hours by the coastguard about its location didn't prevent several ships from hitting it. Visibility or not, there isn't really an excuse these days (extremely adverse weather aside) given modern navigational equipment.

Edited by Gaz. on Saturday 2nd July 18:15

Luca Brazzi

3,982 posts

280 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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I've heard that the Riverdance that is stuck off Blackpool is to be cut up and scrapped.

DJFish

5,995 posts

278 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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The horrible thing about the Herald wreck was that once it was up, they had to clear the silt out and everyone it contained, not a very nice job at all!

This is my old ship, thankfully after I'd left the company.
Before:

And after:

I believe that once the divers had patched the hole it was purged of water and re-righted with a salvage crane.
It had to be completely stripped out, not sure about the engine, but all the accommodation and bridge gear would've had to be replaced, but it was recovered and put back into service.


village idiot

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282 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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although not ships, but yachts... in my time i have sold a number of yachts which have sunk... these include

a racing yacht which sunk in the irish sea - was salvaged, refitted and sold on

a cruising yacht which was holed entering a river and went down with the tide - also salvaged, refitted and sold on

a cruising yacht which had it's bow section blown off by a terrorist bomb - was salvaged, rebuilt and sold on

all sold on with full declaration of their histories and all fetched only marginally below their usual market value.


tank slapper

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298 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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village idiot said:
a cruising yacht which had it's bow section blown off by a terrorist bomb - was salvaged, rebuilt and sold on
This requires more details - how on earth did that happen? Presumably it was caught in the vicinity rather than being central to the event?

FourWheelDrift

90,909 posts

299 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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ganglandboss said:
The first question is how do they raise a ship? This picture answers most of the question, plus I understand it was resting on a sand bank which prevented it sinking entirely. Has anything that size ever been raised from fully submerged?
There have been some serious salvage operations that I know of, one was of course the Kursk, 142m long and 24,000 tonnes. Also another Russian sub was partially recovered from 16,000ft by the Glomar Explorer in 1974. I'm not sure how sumberged it was but possibly the biggest refloating was the Jahre Viking, now the Knock Nevis when it was bombed during the Iran/Iraq war.

Semi hemi

1,801 posts

213 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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Passengers for the latest addition to the Easycruise fleet were somewhat dissapointed by their vessel

ganglandboss

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Friday 8th February 2008
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Semi hemi said:


Passengers for the latest addition to the Easycruise fleet were somewhat dissapointed by their vessel
In despicable taste, but good one! hehe

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

256 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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Very sadly, a girl at my school died on 'The Herald'

scotal

8,751 posts

294 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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Why did they change its name?