Saxo VTS Lifeline. Variations. Mk1 Mk2?!
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The main difference between a mk1 and mk2 is that they made it slower and gave it a new front, they also updated the interior to get rid of the nasty seats you get in the mk1, tbh mate you are going to struggle to find a saxo vts that hasnt been ragged after all it is a 'boy racer' icon lol
MK2 is slightly slower I believe as they added some weight to it.
Dunno much about lifespan and what to look for etc, but I had a mk1 vts and its a fly machine on a decent budget. Watch out for the insurance tho if you're a young'un - from memory I think it was group 14 or thereabouts, compared to vtr which was about group 7 or so.
vts mk1 is the one to go for IMO
Dunno much about lifespan and what to look for etc, but I had a mk1 vts and its a fly machine on a decent budget. Watch out for the insurance tho if you're a young'un - from memory I think it was group 14 or thereabouts, compared to vtr which was about group 7 or so.
vts mk1 is the one to go for IMO
shaunyvts said:
The main difference between a mk1 and mk2 is that they made it slower and gave it a new front, they also updated the interior to get rid of the nasty seats you get in the mk1, tbh mate you are going to struggle to find a saxo vts that hasnt been ragged after all it is a 'boy racer' icon lol
Not sure about that, 'cos of the insurance, the boy racer breed always got vtr's then spent £££ chavving them up in the hope to be a vts. vts insurance was often out of reach, so they got left alone. Well mostly.
Just get one from a mature seller whose looked after it.The difference is that they changed the position of the cat on the Mk2. its in the manifold instead of under the car.
You wouldn't notice any difference performance wise between a mk1/mk2 as its the same engine. the interior might have changed but not by much.
Parts are cheap and readily available as well so it won't be difficult to get bits. they are also quite easy to work on.
VTS's had 15" wheels so you can get larger brake discs and calipers under them (283mm).
But like has been mentioned, they will likley have been thrashed but if its been looked after then it shouldn't matter that much.
I recenlty sold my saxo (Mk1 VTR 29K) and it was loads of fun.
You wouldn't notice any difference performance wise between a mk1/mk2 as its the same engine. the interior might have changed but not by much.
Parts are cheap and readily available as well so it won't be difficult to get bits. they are also quite easy to work on.
VTS's had 15" wheels so you can get larger brake discs and calipers under them (283mm).
But like has been mentioned, they will likley have been thrashed but if its been looked after then it shouldn't matter that much.
I recenlty sold my saxo (Mk1 VTR 29K) and it was loads of fun.
banx22 said:
The difference is that they changed the position of the cat on the Mk2. its in the manifold instead of under the car.
You wouldn't notice any difference performance wise between a mk1/mk2 as its the same engine. the interior might have changed but not by much.
Parts are cheap and readily available as well so it won't be difficult to get bits. they are also quite easy to work on.
VTS's had 15" wheels so you can get larger brake discs and calipers under them (283mm).
But like has been mentioned, they will likley have been thrashed but if its been looked after then it shouldn't matter that much.
I recenlty sold my saxo (Mk1 VTR 29K) and it was loads of fun.
that's incorrect, the VTR cat and mani changed, the VTS didn'tYou wouldn't notice any difference performance wise between a mk1/mk2 as its the same engine. the interior might have changed but not by much.
Parts are cheap and readily available as well so it won't be difficult to get bits. they are also quite easy to work on.
VTS's had 15" wheels so you can get larger brake discs and calipers under them (283mm).
But like has been mentioned, they will likley have been thrashed but if its been looked after then it shouldn't matter that much.
I recenlty sold my saxo (Mk1 VTR 29K) and it was loads of fun.
There are a few changes that occured with the VTS over it's life. The face lift only adds weight in the bonnet area, about 5kgs, this helps with frontal crash protection, which isn't the VTS's forte (though 3 NCAP starts, you can get worse!) At the time of the facelift there were no real mechanical changes, though the annoying keypad imobiliser was ditched. The head got a small redesign and flows a little better, leading to early Mk2 cars on the W and X plate showing a slight power increase
Next up came the the swap between the 1 plug and 3 plug ECUs. the 3 plug is the same unit as used in the C2 today. The VTS also got some nice emisions reduction stuff, the EGR valve and two lambda sensors to keep the emissions down. It didn't work, it's in band F.
In all honesty, all models are nigh on the same power (within tollerences certainly) however the 3 plug ECU does occasionally decide to kill itself, for some unknown reason. Why? Unsure, It is rare though, and all parts are cheap (ECU is about £200 recon'd)
Late cars got EBD, which makes no difference, side airbags, which are god safety wise, but robs the buckets of support and that's about it.
In general, they're all the same and round a track would be near as damn it the same car and set the same sort of time.
I'm currently flogging my modified example, for 3k. It's probably a bit to track based for your needs but it's stood up to the daily grind well. Engines are mega strong (I only know of 2 bottom end failures, 1 running a Garrat T4 and aiming for 440bhp and another running silly nitrous)
Gearboxes fail if abused, though fine if not, the real issue is that they were originally designed for the Visa and thus not for 120lb of torque. Diff bearings go with track work but on the road should be perfectly fine.
Image is one of the reasons I'm selling (the main one is that I work in the city now, I don't need a daily car and I need a Porsche 968 before it's too late!)
You will find that people will expect you to drive like a retard and thus cut you up, swear and abuse you first. I had a diesel Megane for a week and the different way people respond to you is amazing!
There are still ones out there with one mature owner (citroens are popular with oldies and what 65 year old could say no to about 4k off a 12.5 grand car) so keep an eye out for one of them and enjoy it for what it is, a fab little hot hatch
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