Which are the best 4WD Alfa's?
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Is the 155 Q4 intended as a drivers car with a decent rear bias? I assumed it was a fairly utilitarian version intended for the Italian Alps.
edit: Jesus, just seen this "Alfa 155 Q4, 1993 uk model,96,000 miles,full engine rebuild, ajustable suspension done by auto delta of london,bilstein all round, only 14 of these cars made for uk market, and up to now there is only six left,so its very rare"
Maybe I won't be considering one as cheap transport afterall
edit: Jesus, just seen this "Alfa 155 Q4, 1993 uk model,96,000 miles,full engine rebuild, ajustable suspension done by auto delta of london,bilstein all round, only 14 of these cars made for uk market, and up to now there is only six left,so its very rare"
Maybe I won't be considering one as cheap transport afterall
Edited by Chris71 on Wednesday 14th November 16:38
Chris71 said:
Is the 155 Q4 intended as a drivers car with a decent rear bias? I assumed it was a fairly utilitarian version intended for the Italian Alps.
Well it shares its running gear (engine/gearbox/diffs) with Lancia Integrale Evo's with a few minor differences. Yes rear bias and @190bhp 219ibs/ft so more of a drivers car.Sounds like quite car. Am I right in thinking it's a turbocharged 4-pot?
I lived in the alps for a while and discovered 4WD version of all sorts of (normally FWD) saloons and hatchbacks. I was dissapointed to learn most were intended more as a practical tool for remote areas than for added driver enjoyment.
I lived in the alps for a while and discovered 4WD version of all sorts of (normally FWD) saloons and hatchbacks. I was dissapointed to learn most were intended more as a practical tool for remote areas than for added driver enjoyment.
Chris71 said:
edit: Jesus, just seen this "Alfa 155 Q4, 1993 uk model,96,000 miles,full engine rebuild, ajustable suspension done by auto delta of london,bilstein all round, only 14 of these cars made for uk market, and up to now there is only six left,so its very rare"
Maybe I won't be considering one as cheap transport afterall
Not stictly true, yes there were only ever 14 brought into the UK by Alfa, but plenty have been imported privately since.Maybe I won't be considering one as cheap transport afterall
I have at least 10 UK cars on the Q4 owners register in the UK on www.berlinasportivo.com . My own Q4 was a UK car, now in France, and I know of at least 2 in scrapyards and 1 cannibalised for racing.
Chris71 said:
Is the 155 Q4 intended as a drivers car with a decent rear bias? I assumed it was a fairly utilitarian version intended for the Italian Alps.
edit: Jesus, just seen this "Alfa 155 Q4, 1993 uk model,96,000 miles,full engine rebuild, ajustable suspension done by auto delta of london,bilstein all round, only 14 of these cars made for uk market, and up to now there is only six left,so its very rare"
Maybe I won't be considering one as cheap transport afterall
It is the "sporty" version of the 155 but also the heaviest, they really need chipping to get something like decent performance. Mines supposed to be running at around 225bhp thanks to the Squadra giving it an extra 35bhp iirc. But with a free flow exhaust, remember it's a turbocharged car, another 20+ can be released.edit: Jesus, just seen this "Alfa 155 Q4, 1993 uk model,96,000 miles,full engine rebuild, ajustable suspension done by auto delta of london,bilstein all round, only 14 of these cars made for uk market, and up to now there is only six left,so its very rare"
Maybe I won't be considering one as cheap transport afterall
They are "reasonably" cheap to buy but condition varies dramatically, mine was/is a fixer but loking quite good now (imho!).
Those figures are interesting, where did you find the comments? Agree with Penyrar, there are more in the UK and the figures I obtained stated 16 were imported by Alfa (mine being one of them). At least another two or three have come in since then.
Nice cars though...when they work properly!!!
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penryar said:
... with the 164 Q4 coming a close second on the strength of its gearbox.
What an odd reason to choose the 164! I have never seen one of these - they were never produced for the UK market. IIRC Alfa lost a fortune on this project and they sold nowhere neer enough to claw back the cost of developing the 4WD system. penryar said:
Not stictly true, yes there were only ever 14 brought into the UK by Alfa, but plenty have been imported privately since.
I have at least 10 UK cars on the Q4 owners register in the UK on www.berlinasportivo.com . My own Q4 was a UK car, now in France, and I know of at least 2 in scrapyards and 1 cannibalised for racing.
Weres the one in the scrap yard?I have at least 10 UK cars on the Q4 owners register in the UK on www.berlinasportivo.com . My own Q4 was a UK car, now in France, and I know of at least 2 in scrapyards and 1 cannibalised for racing.
Does it have the rear beam and diff in it still?
E500 TAT said:
penryar said:
Not stictly true, yes there were only ever 14 brought into the UK by Alfa, but plenty have been imported privately since.
I have at least 10 UK cars on the Q4 owners register in the UK on www.berlinasportivo.com . My own Q4 was a UK car, now in France, and I know of at least 2 in scrapyards and 1 cannibalised for racing.
Weres the one in the scrap yard?I have at least 10 UK cars on the Q4 owners register in the UK on www.berlinasportivo.com . My own Q4 was a UK car, now in France, and I know of at least 2 in scrapyards and 1 cannibalised for racing.
Does it have the rear beam and diff in it still?
OperationAlfa said:
rabw said:
Why did they never make a GTV with 4WD 
4WD GTV with Arese V6 @ 3.5-3.7L 300-350bhp would be a perfect car.
Way too massive a job to make with parts from 156 Q4?
Yes, presuming you mean the 155. There was no 156 Q4.4WD GTV with Arese V6 @ 3.5-3.7L 300-350bhp would be a perfect car.
Way too massive a job to make with parts from 156 Q4?
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