Engine running - doors locked!

[AMG Merc]

So how did I do this recently (windows were up and keys were in ignition)?

[snuffy]

With another key fob remote - do I win £5 ?

[AMG Merc]

snuffy said:

With another key fob remote - do I win £5 ?

Nope and nope: spare keys were nowhere in sight!

[snuffy]

You were inside the car at the time ?

[sean_goodman]

snuffy said:

You were inside the car at the time ?

yep thats what i would say

[snuffy]

sean_goodman said:

snuffy said:

You were inside the car at the time ?

yep thats what i would say

My Clio locks the doors when you are moving above 3mph. So, engine running, doors locked I'd say.

[AMG Merc]

sean_goodman said:

snuffy said:

You were inside the car at the time ?

yep thats what i would say

Nope - outside. Could have been a serious problem if I wasn't on my drive at the time!

[AMG Merc]

snuffy said:

sean_goodman said:

snuffy said:

You were inside the car at the time ?

yep thats what i would say

My Clio locks the doors when you are moving above 3mph. So, engine running, doors locked I'd say.

Yes, engine running - doors locked but with me OUTSIDE (and I didn't climb through the window either!).

I suspect it is something to do with the remote set to lock the doors but is a little worrying. It used to happen in my TVR many years ago so I'd have to "break-in" via the roof to switch it off which was very easy.

[sean_goodman]

pack the remote away as a spare and start using the spare one as your every day remote.

wait see if it happens again

[gadgeroonie]

this happened to my mrs when she was out with our 2 week old baby boy

she got herself in a terrbile state and was so worried the little fella was too hot in the car in the sun

somebody smashed the rear qtr window but the door would still not open

it turns out the spare keys were in her handbag on the passenger seat !

eventaully i turned up and had to connect a fising rod to a magnet and then go fishing in her bag till the keys came out !!

basically the car locked itself !! - I suspect the spare keys got squashed and the remote went off locking the car

p.s - there is a special way to get into the car if you know how, not for public knowledge !

[roi354]

A standard feature of a thatcham approved cat 1 alarm is to lock the doors once the engine is running. Most of the time (for convenience) this option is switched off but for insurance purposes I believe its a requirement.

A friend managed to do exactly the same some years back with an escort cosworth while at work. He reached into the car and started the engine, shut the door and turned to talk to me. Before he could turn back and grab the door handle, the central locking activated. He's only a skinny chap and myself and another were able to pop open the rear 1/4 window, remove the small pin holding the window to the clamp with a pin punch and slide him through the gap!!!

As soon as the engine is stopped, the doors will open. That includes by stalling also IIRC. That might be one to remember with a noble as you are able to lift the clam and gain access to easily 'stallable' bits should the need arise.

[snuffy]

roi354 said:

A standard feature of a thatcham approved cat 1 alarm is to lock the doors once the engine is running. Most of the time (for convenience) this option is switched off but for insurance purposes I believe its a requirement.

That can't be true, otherwise if you get out of your car with the engine running and shut the door you'd be locked out. That would be a stupid and dangerous feature. Also, I've just looked up cat1 on the Thatcham web site and it makes no mention of that.

[MisterX]

snuffy said:

roi354 said:

A standard feature of a thatcham approved cat 1 alarm is to lock the doors once the engine is running. Most of the time (for convenience) this option is switched off but for insurance purposes I believe its a requirement.

That can't be true, otherwise if you get out of your car with the engine running and shut the door you'd be locked out. That would be a stupid and dangerous feature. Also, I've just looked up cat1 on the Thatcham web site and it makes no mention of that.

Perhaps, like the airbag sensor, there is something in the driver's seat on some cars to detect whether the car is occupied? Or maybe its meant to be when the car is in motion that the doors lock? I know whenever I am in the USA the hire cars automatically lock whenever you pull away.

[Adrian W]

snuffy said:

roi354 said:

A standard feature of a thatcham approved cat 1 alarm is to lock the doors once the engine is running. Most of the time (for convenience) this option is switched off but for insurance purposes I believe its a requirement.

That can't be true, otherwise if you get out of your car with the engine running and shut the door you'd be locked out. That would be a stupid and dangerous feature. Also, I've just looked up cat1 on the Thatcham web site and it makes no mention of that.

I've done a few approved alarms for companies and from memory Thatcham just calls for isolation of more than two points, i.e ignition and fuel pump, and all circuits to go failsafe if it goes wrong so it does'nt stop in the outside lane of a motorway.

[pbsaxman]

Adrian W said:

snuffy said:

roi354 said:

A standard feature of a thatcham approved cat 1 alarm is to lock the doors once the engine is running. Most of the time (for convenience) this option is switched off but for insurance purposes I believe its a requirement.

That can't be true, otherwise if you get out of your car with the engine running and shut the door you'd be locked out. That would be a stupid and dangerous feature. Also, I've just looked up cat1 on the Thatcham web site and it makes no mention of that.

I've done a few approved alarms for companies and from memory Thatcham just calls for isolation of more than two points, i.e ignition and fuel pump, and all circuits to go failsafe if it goes wrong so it does'nt stop in the outside lane of a motorway.

This is all very interesting. Many cars lock when you are moving Mercs, Jags etc but usually only re-lock if a door hasn't been opened after disarming the alarm. Mine has an anti-carjacking system which does lock the doors on start up but can be over ridden from inside the car so safe for the occupants. I suppose I could find myself in this position if I were to leave the engine running and get out and shut the door again, although I suspect the clever people who fitted it thought of that and it disarms that door once it is opened from the inside and if the door is open when the car starts that door doesn't lock. Clever little people!!!
I just re-read this and decided it's largely irrelevent to the original post. Never mind

[AMG Merc]

roi354 said:

As soon as the engine is stopped, the doors will open. That includes by stalling also IIRC. That might be one to remember with a noble as you are able to lift the clam and gain access to easily 'stallable' bits should the need arise.

A good point. An engine kill switch would sort it.

[MisterX]

roi354 said:

As soon as the engine is stopped, the doors will open. That includes by stalling also IIRC. That might be one to remember with a noble as you are able to lift the clam and gain access to easily 'stallable' bits should the need arise.

So, as you panic in your attempt to escape the carjackers you stall the engine and thus the doors can immediately be opened from outside? Great news.

[pbsaxman]

MisterX said:

roi354 said:

As soon as the engine is stopped, the doors will open. That includes by stalling also IIRC. That might be one to remember with a noble as you are able to lift the clam and gain access to easily 'stallable' bits should the need arise.

So, as you panic in your attempt to escape the carjackers you stall the engine and thus the doors can immediately be opened from outside? Great news.

Thats why you get a clever one fitted!! Mine doesn't open when the car stalls, only if I override it from inside the car!! Along with the directional tazer out of the wing mirror and the smart water out of the wipers, lets see them try

[gadgeroonie]

the Noble was made in South Africa

i wonder why they didn't fit this as standard ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDRme0HeXq4&mod...

[MisterX]

gadgeroonie said:

the Noble was made in South Africa

i wonder why they didn't fit this as standard ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDRme0HeXq4&mod...

Global warming?