RE: Westfield XTR2 - full details
Tuesday 18th December 2001
Westfield XTR2 - more pics
Mid engined road racer - pictures, prices and spec revealed
Discussion
Glad to see they're not doing anything original.
First they rip off the seven quite nicely, then they rip off the new radical.
When they tried doing their own thang, the result was a mid-blue colour mid-engined monstrosity that Performance Car spent a whole column laughing at. It had Fiesta headlights and looked really, really sh1t.
Looks like it will undercut the Radical by a few pence, though. I may be interested! I want a windscreen though, like the 340R, as people laugh at you around town if you have a helmet on and I don't fancy stonechipping my forehead.
First they rip off the seven quite nicely, then they rip off the new radical.
When they tried doing their own thang, the result was a mid-blue colour mid-engined monstrosity that Performance Car spent a whole column laughing at. It had Fiesta headlights and looked really, really sh1t.
Looks like it will undercut the Radical by a few pence, though. I may be interested! I want a windscreen though, like the 340R, as people laugh at you around town if you have a helmet on and I don't fancy stonechipping my forehead.
oh my word!
incredible is all i can say, it looks good, its going to go well and for 12k, i know it would cost more for the upgrades but they can be purchased at a later date. Westfield have got it right this time and with some luck and good marketing i am sure we eill see these things all over sprints, hill climbs and race circuit at Britain and Europe.
It will be eligible for the same championships that the radical SR3 (there i said it!) is, apart from the radical series, confused yet!?, oh i want i want i want!
"If I'm not looking out of the rear window, I think I can save it"
incredible is all i can say, it looks good, its going to go well and for 12k, i know it would cost more for the upgrades but they can be purchased at a later date. Westfield have got it right this time and with some luck and good marketing i am sure we eill see these things all over sprints, hill climbs and race circuit at Britain and Europe.
It will be eligible for the same championships that the radical SR3 (there i said it!) is, apart from the radical series, confused yet!?, oh i want i want i want!
"If I'm not looking out of the rear window, I think I can save it"
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Not a bad attempt by Westfield, but have you seen the Genesis? Seen racing at Snetterton and Cadwell with the 750MC in class B. Going class A for 2002. WOW!
Hmm let me remember, 100kg overweight, V slow at both events, and took itself off at Snetterton, all on it's own.
Hmmm V Impressive
The Westfield XTR2 is being sold now. They have few pictures of the car on their web site. It's in the news section. The color scheme looks pretty sleek, even the body looks much more streamline than the previous pictures show here. Check it out, I think it would be in great competition with the Radical SR3.
(I'm lazy so I'll crosspost from Blatchat )
I went over to the factory to have a look at the car last week and was very impressed with it.
The build quality was excellent, in my opinion the curves are a lot more interesting than the bland front that is the SR3 and the whole package was stunning.
The car will need to beat the Radicals next year (if it doesn't, what's the point in it?) and if Westfield's claims on weight and power match the handling there is no reason why it shouldn't.
As for cost, well, pricing up an SR3 resulted in hitting the £35k mark very quickly, realistically you're looking at £40k for a complete car with enough useful bits to stop it blowing up. Plus, you _have_ to go factory built. The Westfield would come in at around £27k for a similar spec factory built, or, if you built it yourself, it would be sub-£20k. A sub-£20k, 190bhp, 420kg, road-legal, LeMans prototype-esque car cannot be dismissed easily by anyone but the brand blind.
As for all the anti-Westfield sentiment and calls of 'Radical copy' all I can say is 'bollocks'. The Radical was hardly original, the only orginal thing about it is that it was the first SuperSport-esque car to really push it's one make series hard enough to make it stick.
If the likes of Reynard or ProTune had released the XTR2 somehow I think the sentiments would be very different.
Graeme.
P.S. Mike - nice one, class!
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I went over to the factory to have a look at the car last week and was very impressed with it.
The build quality was excellent, in my opinion the curves are a lot more interesting than the bland front that is the SR3 and the whole package was stunning.
The car will need to beat the Radicals next year (if it doesn't, what's the point in it?) and if Westfield's claims on weight and power match the handling there is no reason why it shouldn't.
As for cost, well, pricing up an SR3 resulted in hitting the £35k mark very quickly, realistically you're looking at £40k for a complete car with enough useful bits to stop it blowing up. Plus, you _have_ to go factory built. The Westfield would come in at around £27k for a similar spec factory built, or, if you built it yourself, it would be sub-£20k. A sub-£20k, 190bhp, 420kg, road-legal, LeMans prototype-esque car cannot be dismissed easily by anyone but the brand blind.
As for all the anti-Westfield sentiment and calls of 'Radical copy' all I can say is 'bollocks'. The Radical was hardly original, the only orginal thing about it is that it was the first SuperSport-esque car to really push it's one make series hard enough to make it stick.
If the likes of Reynard or ProTune had released the XTR2 somehow I think the sentiments would be very different.
Graeme.
P.S. Mike - nice one, class!
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Yeah, I was always a Caterham man myself, but that's because of the quality of the Caterham kit over the westie one - I'm not a 'knee-jerk' brand snob.
As for this Westie, I'm very interested, as I did want an Ultima but concluded it would be a 40k exercise. However, the version in the pics can't possibly be road legal - those lights look very low.
Show me a finished car westfield, and I'll show you the money!
Domster
Edited by domster on Tuesday 18th December 15:20
As for this Westie, I'm very interested, as I did want an Ultima but concluded it would be a 40k exercise. However, the version in the pics can't possibly be road legal - those lights look very low.
Show me a finished car westfield, and I'll show you the money!
Domster
Edited by domster on Tuesday 18th December 15:20
I think there's a legal requirement to the height of lights. The indications were that you would have to run some type of lightpod on the car for the road-legal ones.
It would be sheer class to run one of those on the road though. Absolutely outrageous. You would have to constantly make sure everything was in order as the police would be stopping you every five yards
It would be sheer class to run one of those on the road though. Absolutely outrageous. You would have to constantly make sure everything was in order as the police would be stopping you every five yards
damn - and i'm not even done building the megabusa yet (getting there though). probably just as well that there'll be a waiting period, especially to get it on these shores. plus i have to finish the garage addition first...
definitely a must-have though. i like the body shape much better than SR3, too... would look great in westfield dark green.
definitely a must-have though. i like the body shape much better than SR3, too... would look great in westfield dark green.
That was my initial wonder. However, the chassis they're using in the XTR2 has realistically no relation to any existing Westfield chassis. It's completely new so I think you're limited to the existing bodywork add-ons for an SE (ie. the snow plough nose, side-pods and rear wing).
Graeme.
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Graeme.
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