Are standard dampers adjustable ?
Are standard dampers adjustable ?
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nigelw

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706 posts

230 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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Is a 3R fitted with bilsten dampers as standard ? does anyone know if they are adjustable (maybe by removing them and turning the boy or something ?)... I get a really "edgy" diagonal pitch in the car on bumpy roads at high speeds and wonder if they may not have been adjusted equally .

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

269 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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nigelw said:
Is a 3R fitted with bilsten dampers as standard ? does anyone know if they are adjustable (maybe by removing them and turning the boy or something ?)... I get a really "edgy" diagonal pitch in the car on bumpy roads at high speeds and wonder if they may not have been adjusted equally .
I 'think' that's the standard and they're not adjustable. Sounds like one may have gone or you've got something else wrong. Brakes ok?

nigelw

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706 posts

230 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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yeh , I'm on another thread about stringing and I'm thinking that I should set up all the stringing , toe etc on mine first as well ! , and if it's still doing it , remove the dampers and put em on a damper dyno . trouble is , I dont know how good the car should be so I dont know whether this "edgy" behaviour is normal or not ....

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

269 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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A 3R is usually very good on bumpy roads. Mine doesn't get thrown off line much at all (if that's what you mean by edgy).

nigelw

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230 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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yes , it seems to be more at the back than the front , there isnt a lot of travel so I wonder if it bounces off the bumpstops a bit or something ? I've heard so many rave reviews about the handling I think I should try to get to the bottom of it cos , at high speed I have to be really careful what I'm doing ...

Twerlie

1,682 posts

296 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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Very loose hub nut?

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

269 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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Twerlie said:
Very loose hub nut?
That's why I asked about the brakes....

nigelw

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230 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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sorry , forgot to clearly answer that ! ...yeh , the brakes are fine , but I'll check the rear nuts anyway (read about porsche ones ) but it's not whilst I'm braking is when you are cornering at high speed over slightly bumpy roads , the car feels "fidgety" at the rear as if you could lose the back end if you werent careful .

F.C.

3,901 posts

237 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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Mine was a bit like that, turned out left rear was six degrees out yikes I had Plans at Dunsfold do the geo for me.
I was so pleased with the result that I decided to have the uprights machined to give room for camber adjustment.
Well worth doing, IMO it transformed the car completely.
F.C.

ajg31

1,455 posts

236 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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F.C. did you not have scrubbing on the tyre with such a big runout?

nigelw

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706 posts

230 months

Thursday 16th August 2007
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Thanks everyone ! ...FC ...do they machine the uprights for more camber ? Is this a trackday mod to make the whole tyre work better or is it a good road mod as well ? ..... You have also confirmed my views that a full geo check is worthwhile ! smile Do you know if the dampers are adjustable ?

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

244 months

Thursday 16th August 2007
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If I drive quickly into some of the worse pits of the backroads to work I can get thrown all over the place.

nigelw

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Thursday 16th August 2007
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the problem I have is when doing (say ) 100 to 140 mph (on a private test track , obviously) on long sweeping , but slightly bumpy bends , it just feels like the back end could jump out of line ....

Mr Noble

6,538 posts

262 months

Thursday 16th August 2007
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nigelw said:
the problem I have is when doing (say ) 100 to 140 mph (on a private test track , obviously) on long sweeping , but slightly bumpy bends , it just feels like the back end could jump out of line ....
Its an idea to check all is tight and well including the hub nuts, wheel nuts, engine mounts, uprights, ball joints etc etc if you are going to be driving it in that style!

At those speeds on a track in a fast bend it should feel pretty solid.

On the roads (private of course) it will feel pretty scary even if you drive over a hedgehog sized bump! eek

nigelw

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706 posts

230 months

Thursday 16th August 2007
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ok , thanks everyone ! smile ....looks like I need to do a bit of work based on this advice and see if I can find anything amiss ! cheers ! ...if anyone can answer the damper question , that would be cool ! smile

alex s

2,105 posts

265 months

Thursday 16th August 2007
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nigelw said:
ok , thanks everyone ! smile ....looks like I need to do a bit of work based on this advice and see if I can find anything amiss ! cheers ! ...if anyone can answer the damper question , that would be cool ! smile
No they are not.
If you want to adjust damper settings, you need to get some nitrons or ohlins.

nigelw

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706 posts

230 months

Thursday 16th August 2007
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thanks ! smilesmile

nigelw

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706 posts

230 months

Saturday 25th August 2007
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Thanks for you help everybody , I've pulled the dampers off and there is a bit difference in damping diagoanlly across the car with soft damping on front left and right rear http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/imgs/8.gif
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/imgs/8.gif Does anyone know if you can get the standard Bilsteins re furbed or how much Ohlins are (and where to buy them ? Alex s ? ) . Thanks in advance

gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Monday 27th August 2007
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just to confuse things - early cars had koni double adjustable shocks fitted !


i guess if you can find the koni part number - you could get a set fitted