Forced to pay more for parts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Forced to pay more for parts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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LOONER

Original Poster:

138 posts

244 months

Thursday 9th August 2007
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I hate to winge but due to Noble concentrating all of their efforts on the new car and the apparent loss of the incredibly efficient in house parts man Bill we have to now purchase parts through the dealer network.

Not one to mention names but of the two dealers in the South one has a parts department open for 2 hours a day and you end up leaving 2 messages over 2 days and they don't bother to call you back and the other one quoted me more than £80.00 more than Noble did on the same parts only two weeks ago!

I personally do not want to spend another £80 on top of the £300 I was already spending just to speak to some tt who thinks he's posh because he works in a car garage with a posh name.

Come on Noble start supplying us parts again if staff is an issue I own a recruitment company and I'm happy to give you someone for free!!!!!!!

Ash M400

3,836 posts

270 months

Thursday 9th August 2007
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What parts are you after?

LOONER

Original Poster:

138 posts

244 months

Thursday 9th August 2007
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Just a pair of front discs.

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

282 months

Thursday 9th August 2007
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This is dissapointing - such a change from 3-4 years ago. rolleyes

LOONER

Original Poster:

138 posts

244 months

Thursday 9th August 2007
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I have just had a call back from a dealer up north who only wants to make £40 more than Noble - it would seem that the dealers phone Noble for a price then pick a percentage to add on according to what way the wind is blowing and how affluent you sound on the phone !

snuffy

13,219 posts

313 months

Thursday 9th August 2007
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Chris Neal has a very good reputation for parts amonst Lotus owners and it's where my Nob is looked after as well. Paul ( Mcstein, I think ) is the name of the parts manager, not to be confused with the Service Manager, who is also called Paul.

obes

3,298 posts

273 months

Thursday 9th August 2007
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Maybe the factory should set the price....

If you want to sell our parts, you sell them for £x type of deal.

The dealers really need to be consistent, or they will end up competing with each other.

... or is that illegal ! ?

now I think about it, that sounds like a cartel !

Edited by obes on Thursday 9th August 17:20

Medusa

301 posts

256 months

Thursday 9th August 2007
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Hello Rob

I agree entirely, I made the same point on a post a few weeks back how things have changed dramatically just over the two years I have had my car, I bought my car second hand but with still 3 months factory warranty to run & then found the factory to be very helpful. As things are now this is not the best way to keep loyalty from people who bought Noble cars in the past, perhaps based on the old good service & customer care which now sadly seems to be non existent.

peterguk

2,622 posts

246 months

Thursday 9th August 2007
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I can't believe there is not a RRP system in place.

So we have to call each dealer for prices before electing where to buy parts??

How professional rolleyes

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

269 months

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

282 months

Thursday 9th August 2007
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//entrep. gene on//

Christ, let's form "club" (eg: £1,000 joining fee per member and £500 per annum thereafter)) and buy up all available Noble parts for exclusive supply to round one founding club members at cost + stocking (and non-members cost + a margin). If/when you leave the club you get your original stake back less op costs and parts purchased from round two of new membership funding...

...well, summit like that scratchchin

Owen, you've space in your garage, aint ye?!






alex s

2,105 posts

265 months

Thursday 9th August 2007
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AMG Merc said:
//entrep. gene on//

Christ, let's form "club" (eg: £1,000 joining fee per member and £500 per annum thereafter)) and buy up all available Noble parts for exclusive supply to round one founding club members at cost + stocking (and non-members cost + a margin). If/when you leave the club you get your original stake back less op costs and parts purchased from round two of new membership funding...

...well, summit like that scratchchin

Owen, you've space in your garage, aint ye?!
Great idea, but considering the owners club never happened..............

LOONER

Original Poster:

138 posts

244 months

Friday 10th August 2007
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Am I right in thinking that every car manufacture sets a price for their parts so if you buy from them directly they make the profit and in the instance of a dealer franchise they would sell to them at a trade price usually in the region of 20 - 25% then the franchised dealer makes their money on selling the part at the rrp. Much the same as most retail businesses operate. After speaking to Noble parts person from a dealer up north he told me that the price he was quoting was 5% less than Noble are quoting general public. I do understand that the dealer network won't be supplying parts for the love of it after all everyone has to earn money but someone should be setting an rrp or Noble should be either giving a discount to let the dealers make money or just employ another parts person the current situation is a joke. Anyway i'm off up north to order my parts !

Adrian W

15,493 posts

257 months

Friday 10th August 2007
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As soon as that letter was published you would have to be an idiot if you didnt think parts prices were going to increase, the dealers need to make a margin out of something and they are not selling new cars.

I may have found the biggest rip-off yet though :- Handrake shoes, £5.00 part, I expected a painfull £20.00...............nope £72.00 +vat each.

They are taking the piss and they will continue to, as "loyal customers" we will pay the prices because we have nowhere else to go.

D_G

1,939 posts

238 months

Friday 10th August 2007
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For reference, my handbrake shoes cost me £60 for a pair from the factory a few months back.

Edited by D_G on Friday 10th August 10:21

Adrian W

15,493 posts

257 months

Friday 10th August 2007
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Just checked the invoice from Kerridges again F5-4 Handbrake shoe £72.00 each P&P was ok at £2.00.

I think i'll call them.

Adrian W

15,493 posts

257 months

Friday 10th August 2007
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Spoke to them, Andy in the parts department Said "if you dont want them you can send them back" I think that just abouts sums things up!

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

244 months

Friday 10th August 2007
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Are there alternative parts/suppliers?
I thought most of the parts on the Noble are borrowed from other models.
If so, get them elsewhere and Kerridges et al.
Really annoys when people take the piss like that.

I'd also stop using them for servicing and giving them good reviews - maybe they'll start wondering why they're so quiet. Or maybe they don't make enough out of Noble owners to bother them either way.

obes

3,298 posts

273 months

Friday 10th August 2007
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ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
A great big I told you so from Phil. ! hehe

Seriously though, we can help ourselves with many parts by continuously updating into the FAQ Wiki. As each of us dig around and find parts we can log the supplier/part no/price.

There will always need to be things that need to come from the factory though, I'll contact them to see if there is an official line on pricing. If there is, then the dealers are being a naughty and need a knuckle rap from Noble...

alex s

2,105 posts

265 months

Friday 10th August 2007
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obes said:
ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
A great big I told you so from Phil. ! hehe

Seriously though, we can help ourselves with many parts by continuously updating into the FAQ Wiki. As each of us dig around and find parts we can log the supplier/part no/price.

There will always need to be things that need to come from the factory though, I'll contact them to see if there is an official line on pricing. If there is, then the dealers are being a naughty and need a knuckle rap from Noble...
Owen, do you think we can put parts that we have had made, but are still cheaper than the noble part...eg the uprated rad...dont want to get into trouble with PH.

This is where a "working" owners club would be very useful. Group buys, etc.
Also having a private forum to share parts cost etc, without the worry of the naming and shaming rules of PH.