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Picked up the motor today and may have problems already.I'm hoping to see what those in the know might think before I speak with the garage where I bought it.
The car is a 2 litre 156 Lusso 2001 reg.
1. When starting it's 'chuggy', really low revs and konks out after a few seconds. I think it's done it a few times when I've been parking up at home too but hasn't done it while stopped in traffic. If I quickly blip the throttle and get the revs up a bit it's O.K. A choke/overfuelling/idle speed issue?
2. The nearside rear sidelight or brakelight remains on,quite dimly though, with all the lights switched off, indicators cancelled, and the car is locked. Is it a parking light? I just disconnected it as it could be draining the battery.
3. When driving at 30mph+ the temp gauge reads below 90 but in standing traffic today it went over 100 on the gauge. Should I be scared?!
I really love this car but it's been bought as I need a smart car for my work and didn't have a massive budget.
Cheers, any help or suggestions would be most appreciated.
The car is a 2 litre 156 Lusso 2001 reg.
1. When starting it's 'chuggy', really low revs and konks out after a few seconds. I think it's done it a few times when I've been parking up at home too but hasn't done it while stopped in traffic. If I quickly blip the throttle and get the revs up a bit it's O.K. A choke/overfuelling/idle speed issue?
2. The nearside rear sidelight or brakelight remains on,quite dimly though, with all the lights switched off, indicators cancelled, and the car is locked. Is it a parking light? I just disconnected it as it could be draining the battery.
3. When driving at 30mph+ the temp gauge reads below 90 but in standing traffic today it went over 100 on the gauge. Should I be scared?!
I really love this car but it's been bought as I need a smart car for my work and didn't have a massive budget.
Cheers, any help or suggestions would be most appreciated.
KANEIT said:
2. The nearside rear sidelight or brakelight remains on,quite dimly though, with all the lights switched off, indicators cancelled, and the car is locked. Is it a parking light? I just disconnected it as it could be draining the battery.
Allegedly this is a fault with the rev counter, and you need a new one to fix it.Found that out while searching for similar problem with a 147.
AdrianR
(still don't know what the cause is on the 147 though - see separate question)
There is a parking light feature activated by the ignition key. If you push the little button on the steering lock and turn the key right back you activate the parking lights. I did this when I first got mine as I thought it was needed to remove the key.
Had the same tickover problem on my previous 156 (99 2.0 T-Spark) when cold, dealer fixed at a service and it never re-appeared. Too long ago to remember the fix I am afraid. Suggest you get a specialist or dealer to look at it.
Hope you enjoy the car as much as we are.
Had the same tickover problem on my previous 156 (99 2.0 T-Spark) when cold, dealer fixed at a service and it never re-appeared. Too long ago to remember the fix I am afraid. Suggest you get a specialist or dealer to look at it.
Hope you enjoy the car as much as we are.
All well known problems...
1) MAF is faulty, needs replacing. Simple job, at top of engine bay with two hose clips, but part is about £100.
2) Slight glow from rear light is a revcounter fault. A diode on the 'bulb warning' circuit has blown causing the circuit in the rev counter to report a fault. Change the revcounter (10 Minute job behind the steering wheel with 4 screws) but about £100.
3) Cooling system should run at constant 90C but most fail with the thermostat open to give 70C at speed (which is too cold). Dealers often fob off owners about this failure. Change the thermostat and you get a constant 90C...except if the low speed fan circuit has failed, then it gets to 105C before the high speed circuit kicks in. It has one fan which is swithced (on the earth side) by the engine ECU which monitors cooling temperature and A/C pressure. It switches in the low speed circuit first. This is identical to the high speed except it's routed through a large resistor mounted on the back of the radiator. It feels the heat of the radiator and increases the current to the fan to vary the speed almost up to the same as the high speed circuit. Problem is it corrodes. Easy to change (sits at about 11 o'clock on the edge of the fan casing) and costs about £25.
1) MAF is faulty, needs replacing. Simple job, at top of engine bay with two hose clips, but part is about £100.
2) Slight glow from rear light is a revcounter fault. A diode on the 'bulb warning' circuit has blown causing the circuit in the rev counter to report a fault. Change the revcounter (10 Minute job behind the steering wheel with 4 screws) but about £100.
3) Cooling system should run at constant 90C but most fail with the thermostat open to give 70C at speed (which is too cold). Dealers often fob off owners about this failure. Change the thermostat and you get a constant 90C...except if the low speed fan circuit has failed, then it gets to 105C before the high speed circuit kicks in. It has one fan which is swithced (on the earth side) by the engine ECU which monitors cooling temperature and A/C pressure. It switches in the low speed circuit first. This is identical to the high speed except it's routed through a large resistor mounted on the back of the radiator. It feels the heat of the radiator and increases the current to the fan to vary the speed almost up to the same as the high speed circuit. Problem is it corrodes. Easy to change (sits at about 11 o'clock on the edge of the fan casing) and costs about £25.
OldEngineer said:
All well known problems...
1) MAF is faulty, needs replacing. Simple job, at top of engine bay with two hose clips, but part is about £100.
2) Slight glow from rear light is a revcounter fault. A diode on the 'bulb warning' circuit has blown causing the circuit in the rev counter to report a fault. Change the revcounter (10 Minute job behind the steering wheel with 4 screws) but about £100.
3) Cooling system should run ...
What a great reply. Nice one.1) MAF is faulty, needs replacing. Simple job, at top of engine bay with two hose clips, but part is about £100.
2) Slight glow from rear light is a revcounter fault. A diode on the 'bulb warning' circuit has blown causing the circuit in the rev counter to report a fault. Change the revcounter (10 Minute job behind the steering wheel with 4 screws) but about £100.
3) Cooling system should run ...
Cheers guys for the help. I love the car and am well pleased with it on the whole.
The little monkey overheated a few weeks back after my original post. The garage mended the fan as it wasn't coming on. I think the low speed fan setting must not be working still as it often goes to 105 when standing and drops back down to 90 (cheers Oldengineer). I'll check that resistor.
The rev counter thing sounds bloomin wierd!
I thought it could be a MAF or the throttle potentiometer so I will see if they can be cleaned.
A trip to Simpson Brothers breakers might be on the cards!
The little monkey overheated a few weeks back after my original post. The garage mended the fan as it wasn't coming on. I think the low speed fan setting must not be working still as it often goes to 105 when standing and drops back down to 90 (cheers Oldengineer). I'll check that resistor.
The rev counter thing sounds bloomin wierd!
I thought it could be a MAF or the throttle potentiometer so I will see if they can be cleaned.
A trip to Simpson Brothers breakers might be on the cards!
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