2.7RS's and 3.0 RSR websites.
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Russell Edmund Harris, out in Witney ..........expensive but prob genuine cars , most stuff u ll see elsewhere on websites will be dream prices , daft cars , meaning if they re any good they ll never be advertised and move by word of mouth ......try talking to Gregor Fisken or Taylor and Crawley , know their stuff also no freebees !
Theres a nice 2.8 rsr being sold privately only Eu 580 000 if u fancy immac car !
Theres a nice 2.8 rsr being sold privately only Eu 580 000 if u fancy immac car !
Edited by Agent Orange on Friday 27th April 08:28
If you want a really good 2.7RS you may need to look globally, but in the UK you should speak to the llikes of Edmund Harris, Josh Sadler (Autofarm), Mark Waring (Worldwide Classics), Gmund Cars.....
More recently, Maxted-Page have been building a good reputation www.maxted-page.com and they may have a nice rhd M472 coming in.
Never buy anything without having it thoroughly checked out - there is a lot of rubbish out there. Did you see the red French RST at Coys Eynsham Hall auction? It bid to £75k (below its reserve) but still needed at least £50k+ spending on it
Key factors are (in no particular order):
- Condition (restoration and parts costs are getting)
- History/Provenance
- Originality
The best cars sell in an instant. The rubbish cars hang around.
Try www.ddk-online.com for further advice.
Oh, and a really good RS is still an amazing car. Yesterday morning I drove across the Cotswolds in a 997 GT3 (a phenomenal car
)and then did the same trip in the afternoon in a 2.7RS Sport (lwt) and I was absolutely astonished by how good the RS was - and, by far, the more fun
More recently, Maxted-Page have been building a good reputation www.maxted-page.com and they may have a nice rhd M472 coming in.
Never buy anything without having it thoroughly checked out - there is a lot of rubbish out there. Did you see the red French RST at Coys Eynsham Hall auction? It bid to £75k (below its reserve) but still needed at least £50k+ spending on it
Key factors are (in no particular order):
- Condition (restoration and parts costs are getting
) - History/Provenance
- Originality
The best cars sell in an instant. The rubbish cars hang around.
Try www.ddk-online.com for further advice.
Oh, and a really good RS is still an amazing car. Yesterday morning I drove across the Cotswolds in a 997 GT3 (a phenomenal car
)and then did the same trip in the afternoon in a 2.7RS Sport (lwt) and I was absolutely astonished by how good the RS was - and, by far, the more fun 
The price of these cars is going crazy, am I right in assuming that a 2.7rs lightweight in Rhd would be over £150k, as for a 3.0 rsr god knows how much.
Anyhow what's the concensus on a 73e RS replica lightweight,, very very correct and proper Autofarm built indestinqishable from the real thing.
Anyhow what's the concensus on a 73e RS replica lightweight,, very very correct and proper Autofarm built indestinqishable from the real thing.
vipergreen said:
The price of these cars is going crazy, am I right in assuming that a 2.7rs lightweight in Rhd would be over £150k, as for a 3.0 rsr god knows how much.
Anyhow what's the concensus on a 73e RS replica lightweight,, very very correct and proper Autofarm built indestinqishable from the real thing.
Anyhow what's the concensus on a 73e RS replica lightweight,, very very correct and proper Autofarm built indestinqishable from the real thing.
Check the green one out for sale here www.thehairpincompany.co.uk/
I need that car and i'd only need to steal £50k, nobody would notice that surely?
Rhd cars are really only of interest in the uk, and the global market prefers lhd.
One of the reasons for the price rises of genuine RSs is the eligibility to enter some of the exclusive historic race events.
Most RS reps are worth c.£20k(ish)depending on the quality and originality, but Bonhams sold a 2.7RS rep for £45k last year (see inside front page of Porsche Post). This could also reflect the value of the sum of its parts, if genuine.
But IMO, for £45k, a genuine 'S' is a better investment than a replica 'RS'.
One of the reasons for the price rises of genuine RSs is the eligibility to enter some of the exclusive historic race events.
Most RS reps are worth c.£20k(ish)depending on the quality and originality, but Bonhams sold a 2.7RS rep for £45k last year (see inside front page of Porsche Post). This could also reflect the value of the sum of its parts, if genuine.
But IMO, for £45k, a genuine 'S' is a better investment than a replica 'RS'.
Geneve said:
Rhd cars are really only of interest in the uk, and the global market prefers lhd.
One of the reasons for the price rises of genuine RSs is the eligibility to enter some of the exclusive historic race events.
Most RS reps are worth c.£20k(ish)depending on the quality and originality, but Bonhams sold a 2.7RS rep for £45k last year (see inside front page of Porsche Post). This could also reflect the value of the sum of its parts, if genuine.
But IMO, for £45k, a genuine 'S' is a better investment than a replica 'RS'.
One of the reasons for the price rises of genuine RSs is the eligibility to enter some of the exclusive historic race events.
Most RS reps are worth c.£20k(ish)depending on the quality and originality, but Bonhams sold a 2.7RS rep for £45k last year (see inside front page of Porsche Post). This could also reflect the value of the sum of its parts, if genuine.
But IMO, for £45k, a genuine 'S' is a better investment than a replica 'RS'.
How about a genuine Carrera ('75ish)? I never hear these being mentioned, but I'm sort of curious that they have a 2.7 litre engine with pretty much the same output as a 2.7RS. Surely one of these could be bought, and whilst being kept largely original, given a few period updates to make an RS-esque 911?
loach said:
Geneve said:
Rhd cars are really only of interest in the uk, and the global market prefers lhd.
One of the reasons for the price rises of genuine RSs is the eligibility to enter some of the exclusive historic race events.
Most RS reps are worth c.£20k(ish)depending on the quality and originality, but Bonhams sold a 2.7RS rep for £45k last year (see inside front page of Porsche Post). This could also reflect the value of the sum of its parts, if genuine.
But IMO, for £45k, a genuine 'S' is a better investment than a replica 'RS'.
One of the reasons for the price rises of genuine RSs is the eligibility to enter some of the exclusive historic race events.
Most RS reps are worth c.£20k(ish)depending on the quality and originality, but Bonhams sold a 2.7RS rep for £45k last year (see inside front page of Porsche Post). This could also reflect the value of the sum of its parts, if genuine.
But IMO, for £45k, a genuine 'S' is a better investment than a replica 'RS'.
How about a genuine Carrera ('75ish)? I never hear these being mentioned, but I'm sort of curious that they have a 2.7 litre engine with pretty much the same output as a 2.7RS. Surely one of these could be bought, and whilst being kept largely original, given a few period updates to make an RS-esque 911?
The impact bumper 2.7 Carreras have a following and there was a comparative aricle in the April '911 World'. A good original 74/75 2.7 Carrera could be a good buy and offers a lot of the 'RS' experience - but it's not the real thing.
My favourite 'alternative' would be an '88/89 M637 911 'Club Sport'
Geneve said:
The impact bumper 2.7 Carreras have a following and there was a comparative aricle in the April '911 World'. A good original 74/75 2.7 Carrera could be a good buy and offers a lot of the 'RS' experience - but it's not the real thing.
My favourite 'alternative' would be an '88/89 M637 911 'Club Sport'
Trouble is that these are even harder to find than 2.7 Carreras.
ETA - Don't have the April 911 World yet. Worth buying?
Edited by loach on Friday 27th April 11:35
carreraboy said:
This guy has some fantastic Porsches for sale. - 965 Turbo S, 964 RS 3.8 CS, 993 GT2, absolutely awesome.
gdunc said:
vipergreen said:
The price of these cars is going crazy, am I right in assuming that a 2.7rs lightweight in Rhd would be over £150k, as for a 3.0 rsr god knows how much.
Anyhow what's the concensus on a 73e RS replica lightweight,, very very correct and proper Autofarm built indestinqishable from the real thing.
Anyhow what's the concensus on a 73e RS replica lightweight,, very very correct and proper Autofarm built indestinqishable from the real thing.
Check the green one out for sale here www.thehairpincompany.co.uk/
I need that car and i'd only need to steal £50k, nobody would notice that surely?
Hi Guys,
relatively new here, but anyway the green car was mine, regret moving it on really.
Yes it would cost towards 150k for a perfect rhd lightweight 471 car, worth it investment wise, but not worth it if you are prepared to be patient and build a GREAT rep. The vipergreen car was built by Neil Bainbridge gearbox and engine were matching from a genuine rs 472 car, the engine was rebuilt to 2.8 and the compression was raised slightly. Basically the car had everything done brakes, suspension, fr wings, lights, interior and paint - Hence price thehairpin. And honestly, to me drove better than the genuine touring I had owned previously far more raw, alive and engaging - so build a l/w rep, to me (imho) the thrill of ownership, was greater with rep than the genuine article, don t know quite why either, but you can NOLONGER smash and then repair correctly a genuine car without it being documented or banded about on forums killing its future value.
Re the autofarm option, just check its a early shell - great big servo in the boot of the later shells and vents in dash etc etc and obviously late reg plate. With my old green car I specifically went and paid more for something early and solid, and I got my return on my investment - not quite so much as hairpin have TWICE(ie car has sold again) but a return nonetheless.
Basically it comes down to budget, but if you build a GREAT rep, with a reputable oficianado no one will question its integrity and you always get your money back.
Cheers MJ
Edited by jammmy on Friday 27th April 16:29
Geneve said:
Yesterday morning I drove across the Cotswolds in a 997 GT3 (a phenomenal car )and then did the same trip in the afternoon in a 2.7RS Sport (lwt) and I was absolutely astonished by how good the RS was - and, by far, the more fun
)and then did the same trip in the afternoon in a 2.7RS Sport (lwt) and I was absolutely astonished by how good the RS was - and, by far, the more fun 
ah ha I know who you are.... Geneve...but your secret is safe with me 
or should it be Jammmy said:
gdunc said:
vipergreen said:
The price of these cars is going crazy, am I right in assuming that a 2.7rs lightweight in Rhd would be over £150k, as for a 3.0 rsr god knows how much.
Anyhow what's the concensus on a 73e RS replica lightweight,, very very correct and proper Autofarm built indestinqishable from the real thing.
Anyhow what's the concensus on a 73e RS replica lightweight,, very very correct and proper Autofarm built indestinqishable from the real thing.
Check the green one out for sale here www.thehairpincompany.co.uk/
I need that car and i'd only need to steal £50k, nobody would notice that surely?
Hi Guys,
relatively new here, but anyway the green car was mine, regret moving it on really.
Yes it would cost towards 150k for a perfect rhd lightweight 471 car, worth it investment wise, but not worth it if you are prepared to be patient and build a GREAT rep. The vipergreen car was built by Neil Bainbridge gearbox and engine were matching from a genuine rs 472 car, the engine was rebuilt to 2.8 and the compression was raised slightly. Basically the car had everything done brakes, suspension, fr wings, lights, interior and paint. And honestly, to me drove better than the genuine touring I had owned previously far more raw, alive and engaging - so build a l/w rep, to me (imho) the thrill of ownership, was greater with rep than the genuine article, don t know quite why either, but you can NOLONGER smash and then repair correctly a genuine car without it being documented or banded about on forums killing its future value.
Re the autofarm option, just check its a early shell - great big servo in the boot of the later shells and vents in dash etc etc and obviously late reg plate. With my old green car I specifically went and paid more for something early and solid, and I got my return on my investment - not quite so much as hairpin have TWICE(ie car has sold again) but a return nonetheless.
Cheers MJ
I very nearly bought it the 1st time round..
rubystone said:
Geneve said:
Yesterday morning I drove across the Cotswolds in a 997 GT3 (a phenomenal car )and then did the same trip in the afternoon in a 2.7RS Sport (lwt) and I was absolutely astonished by how good the RS was - and, by far, the more fun
)and then did the same trip in the afternoon in a 2.7RS Sport (lwt) and I was absolutely astonished by how good the RS was - and, by far, the more fun ah ha I know who you are.... Geneve...but your secret is safe with me or should it be 
now I really ought to do it in a Caterham, just for comparison.
freedman said:
Geneve said:
Most RS reps are worth c.£20k(ish)depending on the quality and originality,.
Worth maybe, but in the main they seem to sell for far in excess of that, there dont seem to be many for less than 35k as arule
I was referring to the myriad of RS replicas of varying quality, using earlier shells and few, if any, original parts. For £35k it would need to be built on a 72/73 shell and incorporate many of the right bits to a very good standard.
Have to say, though, that the Viper RS Rep at Hairpin looks exceptional
- mirrors, seats and lack of engine lid clips are the only giveaways. Geneve said:
freedman said:
Geneve said:
Most RS reps are worth c.£20k(ish)depending on the quality and originality,.
Worth maybe, but in the main they seem to sell for far in excess of that, there dont seem to be many for less than 35k as arule
I was referring to the myriad of RS replicas of varying quality, using earlier shells and few, if any, original parts. For £35k it would need to be built on a 72/73 shell and incorporate many of the right bits to a very good standard.
Have to say, though, that the Viper RS Rep at Hairpin looks exceptional
- mirrors, seats and lack of engine lid clips are the only giveaways. Geneve
I'm well into buying one of these at present and your knowledge of these cars clearly far outways mine, can you point me to some online pictures for comparison ?
My Porsche experience started at 964 so my knowledge of early stuff is lacking.
Is 45k to much for what I'm told and believe is a very good example 73 shell origionaly an E and race car ?
Your comment re an origional S is interesting what do you think of the one in classifieds with the 2.7 engine ?
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