Porsche Warranty

[audi321]

Just found out that the Porsche warranty is only transferable if you buy the car privately or through an OPC.

If you buy from an indie dealer and the car had a warranty from the previous owner, the warranty cannot be transferred!

Thought you all should be aware!!!

[Rawhide]

I bought my car through an indy. I 'extended' my warranty with no questions asked. However it was expiring in about 2 weeks.

I can't see why you could not contact the former owner and ask him to sign it across. Porsche would have no knowledge of an Indy being involved

Edited by Rawhide on Monday 23 April 12:23

[audi321]

Rawhide said:

I can't see why you could not contact the former owner and ask him to sign is across. Porsche would have no knowledge of an Indy being involved

I agree and that is why I posted this topic to let people know to do this, as the minute Porsche find out it's been through a indy they're not interested.

[Vesuvius 996]

Can I just sounds a word of caution here?

It's clear from the Terms of the warranty that it is voided when the car passes through an indy. So, buying a car from an indy and then "fiddling" the transfer in the way you've mentioned is all very well, but if you then claim and Porsche rumble you then they would be well within their rights to call foul.

Granted it seems unlikely they'd rumble you, but I wouldn't fancy getting an offence of dishonesty like Obtaining Pecuniary Advantage by Deception on my record if they did! Effectively it's insurance fraud!!

Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Monday 23 April 12:43

[silver993tt]

Just get the indy to get the warranty re-issued from Porsche. This is what happened when i bought my car. Indy sent car to Porsche for 111 point check and issuance of warranty. No problem from porsche's viewpoint. This was at Reading.

[Fidgits]

just buy privately


oh god! im starting to sound like kayc!

[sleep envy]

you are KayC!!!

AICM5P!!

[thegoose]

We sold a 53 reg Cayenne Turbo last year. I recommended the buyer buy an OPC warranty. We paid for the 111 check and then had the work done elsewhere that was required (Keyless Go door handle etc.) which cost us a few hundred quid more. It went back on 31st October 2006 just in time to pass and for the customer to get the warranty for the old price (£725). Porsche GB then wrote and told him the car already had an extended warranty until Feb 07 and refunded his money. He called them to clarify and was quite clear that he bought the car from an independent dealer. They were very definite that the car already had waranty cover and there was no need for him to pay. He didn't see a huge advantage however, as it meant he'd have to pay £895 in Feb so the monthly cost of 15 months cover wasn't a lot different to the 12 months @ £725.

So it seems they don't enforce this term of the cover. It seems unfair that it's there anyway. The only reason I could see is that a dealer is more likely to be a position to abuse the cover - i.e. swap parts bewteen two cars in stock in order to claim on whichever one has the warranty cover.

I was also annoyed that I didn't check that the car was covered as I spent an unnecessary amount of money getting it checked and paying for work that was covered.

We have a 360 Spider for sale at the moment with Ferrari warranty, but as it's on SOR from a friend it will probably be sold as a private sale from him thereby ensuring the warranty transfer terms are complied with, with us invoicing separately for a brokerage fee. Depending on what you're buying & where from this may be an option too.

[Vesuvius 996]

thegoose said:

We sold a 53 reg Cayenne Turbo last year. I recommended the buyer buy an OPC warranty. We paid for the 111 check and then had the work done elsewhere that was required (Keyless Go door handle etc.) which cost us a few hundred quid more. It went back on 31st October 2006 just in time to pass and for the customer to get the warranty for the old price (£725). Porsche GB then wrote and told him the car already had an extended warranty until Feb 07 and refunded his money. He called them to clarify and was quite clear that he bought the car from an independent dealer. They were very definite that the car already had waranty cover and there was no need for him to pay. He didn't see a huge advantage however, as it meant he'd have to pay £895 in Feb so the monthly cost of 15 months cover wasn't a lot different to the 12 months @ £725.

So it seems they don't enforce this term of the cover. It seems unfair that it's there anyway. The only reason I could see is that a dealer is more likely to be a position to abuse the cover - i.e. swap parts bewteen two cars in stock in order to claim on whichever one has the warranty cover.

I was also annoyed that I didn't check that the car was covered as I spent an unnecessary amount of money getting it checked and paying for work that was covered.

We have a 360 Spider for sale at the moment with Ferrari warranty, but as it's on SOR from a friend it will probably be sold as a private sale from him thereby ensuring the warranty transfer terms are complied with, with us invoicing separately for a brokerage fee. Depending on what you're buying & where from this may be an option too.

Sounds to me like a chimp on the phone at Porsche didn't know what the hell they were talking about.

Come claim time, I can imagine the sucking of teeth and the refusal of cover.

[4sure]

Why do you think all the indies state (sometimes),selling on behalf off etc.

[thegoose]

Vesuvius 996 said:

Sounds to me like a chimp on the phone at Porsche didn't know what the hell they were talking about.

Come claim time, I can imagine the sucking of teeth and the refusal of cover.

No, it had to go in for further problems with the Keyless Go stuff. The dealer gets it authorised and off they go. After all, why would they (the OPC) look for a way of not getting the job?

[dasherdiablo1]

In all seriousness, how would OPC ever know it had gone through an indy????

[Fidgits]

dasherdiablo1 said:

In all seriousness, how would OPC ever know it had gone through an indy????

the previous owner needs to sign and send off the form in the back of the warranty with the new owners details

[freedman]

Fidgits said:

dasherdiablo1 said:

In all seriousness, how would OPC ever know it had gone through an indy????

the previous owner needs to sign and send off the form in the back of the warranty with the new owners details

And when they sell it to an indy they wont fill anything in because they're not transferring the warranty

You only fill the form in if you're transferring the earranty not when you sell the car.

[Vesuvius 996]

freedman said:

Fidgits said:

dasherdiablo1 said:

In all seriousness, how would OPC ever know it had gone through an indy????

the previous owner needs to sign and send off the form in the back of the warranty with the new owners details

And when they sell it to an indy they wont fill anything in because they're not transferring the warranty

You only fill the form in if you're transferring the earranty not when you sell the car.

So you're effectively asking the last owner to commit fraud with you!!

LISTEN UP!

You probably wouldn't get rumbled, but if you claimed a £10k engine, and then you DID get rumbled, then you'd be in the shit, and so would the last owner.

I'll shut up, but I've seen too many respectable people do jail time for insurance fraud just because they thought that they'd never get found out.

Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Monday 23 April 19:47

[freedman]

Vesuvius 996 said:

freedman said:

Fidgits said:

dasherdiablo1 said:

In all seriousness, how would OPC ever know it had gone through an indy????

the previous owner needs to sign and send off the form in the back of the warranty with the new owners details

And when they sell it to an indy they wont fill anything in because they're not transferring the warranty

You only fill the form in if you're transferring the earranty not when you sell the car.

So you're effectively asking the last owner to commit fraud with you!!

LISTEN UP!

You probably wouldn't get rumbled, but if you claimed a £10k engine, and then you DID get rumbled, then you'd be in the shit, and so would the last owner.

I'll shut up, but I've seen too many respectable people do jail time for insurance fraud just because they thought that they'd never get found out.

Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Monday 23 April 19:47

Actyally you're not asking anyone to commit anything, the last owner signs the warranty transfer document as does the new owner, so theres a dealer effectively brokering the deal in between. Your problem is?

I still want to know how Porsche would ever have aclue where the car came from or do you tink they stert an internal investigation every time there is a claim? When you submitt the warranty transfer form Porsche write back to you confirming the details have all been changed and the car is now warrantied in your name.

You are attempting to create a problem where none exists

[Vesuvius 996]

freedman said:

Vesuvius 996 said:

freedman said:

Fidgits said:

dasherdiablo1 said:

In all seriousness, how would OPC ever know it had gone through an indy????

the previous owner needs to sign and send off the form in the back of the warranty with the new owners details

And when they sell it to an indy they wont fill anything in because they're not transferring the warranty

You only fill the form in if you're transferring the earranty not when you sell the car.

So you're effectively asking the last owner to commit fraud with you!!

LISTEN UP!

You probably wouldn't get rumbled, but if you claimed a £10k engine, and then you DID get rumbled, then you'd be in the shit, and so would the last owner.

I'll shut up, but I've seen too many respectable people do jail time for insurance fraud just because they thought that they'd never get found out.

Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Monday 23 April 19:47

Actyally you're not asking anyone to commit anything, the last owner signs the warranty transfer document as does the new owner, so theres a dealer effectively brokering the deal in between. Your problem is?

I still want to know how Porsche would ever have aclue where the car came from or do you tink they stert an internal investigation every time there is a claim? When you submitt the warranty transfer form Porsche write back to you confirming the details have all been changed and the car is now warrantied in your name.

You are attempting to create a problem where none exists

Fine, if that's your view. Good luck with it.

Personally I'll stick with seven years of training and thirteen years of practising law, and play by the rules, which are clearly set out.

Cheerio

Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Monday 23 April 21:06

[freedman]

Vesuvius 996 said:

freedman said:

Vesuvius 996 said:

freedman said:

Fidgits said:

dasherdiablo1 said:

In all seriousness, how would OPC ever know it had gone through an indy????

the previous owner needs to sign and send off the form in the back of the warranty with the new owners details

And when they sell it to an indy they wont fill anything in because they're not transferring the warranty

You only fill the form in if you're transferring the earranty not when you sell the car.

So you're effectively asking the last owner to commit fraud with you!!

LISTEN UP!

You probably wouldn't get rumbled, but if you claimed a £10k engine, and then you DID get rumbled, then you'd be in the shit, and so would the last owner.

I'll shut up, but I've seen too many respectable people do jail time for insurance fraud just because they thought that they'd never get found out.

Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Monday 23 April 19:47

Actyally you're not asking anyone to commit anything, the last owner signs the warranty transfer document as does the new owner, so theres a dealer effectively brokering the deal in between. Your problem is?

I still want to know how Porsche would ever have aclue where the car came from or do you tink they stert an internal investigation every time there is a claim? When you submitt the warranty transfer form Porsche write back to you confirming the details have all been changed and the car is now warrantied in your name.

You are attempting to create a problem where none exists

Fine, if that's your view. Good luck with it.

Personally I'll stick with seven years of training and thirteen years of practising law, and play by the rules, which are clearly set out.

Cheerio

Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Monday 23 April 21:06

I have no idea what your years of prcatising the law has to do with it, but I guess you do......

[Brett928S2]

freedman said:

Vesuvius 996 said:

freedman said:

Vesuvius 996 said:

freedman said:

Fidgits said:

dasherdiablo1 said:

In all seriousness, how would OPC ever know it had gone through an indy????

the previous owner needs to sign and send off the form in the back of the warranty with the new owners details

And when they sell it to an indy they wont fill anything in because they're not transferring the warranty

You only fill the form in if you're transferring the earranty not when you sell the car.

So you're effectively asking the last owner to commit fraud with you!!

LISTEN UP!

You probably wouldn't get rumbled, but if you claimed a £10k engine, and then you DID get rumbled, then you'd be in the shit, and so would the last owner.

I'll shut up, but I've seen too many respectable people do jail time for insurance fraud just because they thought that they'd never get found out.

Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Monday 23 April 19:47

Actyally you're not asking anyone to commit anything, the last owner signs the warranty transfer document as does the new owner, so theres a dealer effectively brokering the deal in between. Your problem is?

I still want to know how Porsche would ever have aclue where the car came from or do you tink they stert an internal investigation every time there is a claim? When you submitt the warranty transfer form Porsche write back to you confirming the details have all been changed and the car is now warrantied in your name.

You are attempting to create a problem where none exists

Fine, if that's your view. Good luck with it.

Personally I'll stick with seven years of training and thirteen years of practising law, and play by the rules, which are clearly set out.

Cheerio

Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Monday 23 April 21:06

I have no idea what your years of prcatising the law has to do with it, but I guess you do......

Hi

Hes saying ...what you are thinking of doing is ILLEGAL......I think

All the best Brett

[ukwill]

lets ask VonHosen. He is "THE LAW"