Is a C4s & Turbo a Gas Guzzling 4x4??
Discussion
supermono said:
But that would be really far reaching and hurt most motorists who have modest (read shite!) cars. He needs to be careful or else people might think it's nothing but a colossal tax take on the back of some shaky "science" behind global warming.
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what?
just a tax to pay for all the problems he's created in this country? surely not?
using a politically charged green issue to cover this fact? no way!
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but I thought 'gas guzzling' cars pay more because they are 'gas guzzling' and therefore pay more tax via the fuel they 'guzzle'?
Oh, well, looks like 6 months tax per year only now for the winter and keep the car on the continent for the summer using SORN.
Mind you, 95% of my mileage isn't in the UK so greedy fat pig Brown ain't getting much tax off me anyway
Oh, well, looks like 6 months tax per year only now for the winter and keep the car on the continent for the summer using SORN.
Mind you, 95% of my mileage isn't in the UK so greedy fat pig Brown ain't getting much tax off me anyway
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I know you cant swear on this forum but what a complete bastard!!!!!
Do they really think the Chelsea tractor brigade etc will give a rats. They all have more money than sense anyway so they wont notice an increase.
For us, relatively low mileage per year, owners of sports cars which are basically classic cars and a hobby, we get stuffed!!!!!
As someone said above, put road tax on the fuel. That way the more you use a gas guzzling car…the more you pay towards road works etc. Plus:-
The less miles per gallon your cars does - The more tax you pay.
The more miles you do per year - The more tax you pay
Surely fuel tax makes more sense than a single hit or that stupid idea on toll roads / tagging cars to see which roads you use and getting billed. It will just send people into the countryside / back road to avoid paying thus leaving the roads clearer for the rich!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! + more roadwork’s needed on the country / back road due to over use of old road surfaces
Again - Bastards!!!!!!
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Sorry - must stop using speach marks etc... writes a code instead of marks?
I know you cant swear on this forum but what a complete bastard!!!!!
Do they really think the Chelsea tractor brigade etc will give a rats. They all have more money than sense anyway so they wont notice an increase.
For us, relatively low mileage per year, owners of sports cars which are basically classic cars and a hobby, we get stuffed!!!!!
As someone said above, put road tax on the fuel. That way the more you use a gas guzzling car…the more you pay towards road works etc. Plus:-
The less miles per gallon your cars does - The more tax you pay.
The more miles you do per year - The more tax you pay
Surely fuel tax makes more sense than a single hit or that stupid idea on toll roads / tagging cars to see which roads you use and getting billed. It will just send people into the countryside / back road to avoid paying thus leaving the roads clearer for the rich!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! + more roadwork’s needed on the country / back road due to over use of old road surfaces
Again - Bastards!!!!!!
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Edited by chrisw_05 on Monday 19th March 12:28
Sorry - must stop using speach marks etc... writes a code instead of marks?
Edited by chrisw_05 on Monday 19th March 12:33
redgriff500 said:
Anyone know what exactly the defintion is ?
Is it only for the newer cars with published CO2 figures or does it cover older ones too ?
Classics exempt ?
Is it only for the newer cars with published CO2 figures or does it cover older ones too ?
Classics exempt ?
we wont know until wednesday.
Its likely to be based around the latest 'scale' of CO2 emissions - the group G cars. And knowing Brown, it will effect as many cars as it can, but i think anything pre-2002 should be okay with the 175 quid duty.
Fuel tax makes sense to greenies as it makes everyone think whether their journey is really necessary.
Car tax makes sense to greenies as it makes people think whether the car they are buying is really necessary.
How many people in this country buy a car that is in group G? How many of those care whether car tax is £200 or £400 or £800.
Push up fuel duty and the govt would have mass protests on their hands as everyone would be affected. Push up car tax on band G cars and only the rich elite will be affected AND the greenies will be kept happy.
Not a difficult decision for Brown is it?
Car tax makes sense to greenies as it makes people think whether the car they are buying is really necessary.
How many people in this country buy a car that is in group G? How many of those care whether car tax is £200 or £400 or £800.
Push up fuel duty and the govt would have mass protests on their hands as everyone would be affected. Push up car tax on band G cars and only the rich elite will be affected AND the greenies will be kept happy.
Not a difficult decision for Brown is it?
leosayer said:
Fuel tax makes sense to greenies as it makes everyone think whether their journey is really necessary.
Car tax makes sense to greenies as it makes people think whether the car they are buying is really necessary.
How many people in this country buy a car that is in group G? How many of those care whether car tax is £200 or £400 or £800.
Push up fuel duty and the govt would have mass protests on their hands as everyone would be affected. Push up car tax on band G cars and only the rich elite will be affected AND the greenies will be kept happy.
Not a difficult decision for Brown is it?
Car tax makes sense to greenies as it makes people think whether the car they are buying is really necessary.
How many people in this country buy a car that is in group G? How many of those care whether car tax is £200 or £400 or £800.
Push up fuel duty and the govt would have mass protests on their hands as everyone would be affected. Push up car tax on band G cars and only the rich elite will be affected AND the greenies will be kept happy.
Not a difficult decision for Brown is it?
you're right. It also keeps the out of tune bangers on the road that are in groups below G which spew out tons of toxic and noxious filth. Nice one Brown.
Still, next general election it's bye bye anti-environment, pro-tax labour
Edited by silver993tt on Monday 19th March 13:08
FOE (Friends of Earth) have been campaigning for £2000 tax on Band G cars (which includes cars like Jag XJ6 2.0 and Renault Espace).
www.foe.co.uk/campaigns/climate/press_for_change/car_tax/index.html
www.foe.co.uk/campaigns/climate/press_for_change/car_tax/index.html
Its quite right that a lot of cars that have anything bigger than a 2.0 litre petrol engine or a 2.5 diesel engine could fall into the emissions super tax. Some of these cars are hardly Chelsea Tractors or gas guzzlers.
But to the majority of people who own top marque type vehicles, it isn`t going to have an affect. He`s just digging his own grave by alienating performance car owners further... surely by now he has seen enough people leave the UK and take their hard earned with them? Now he wants to tax those who have stayed and bought expensive toys even more ... oh dear ...
Why not put Stamp Duty up to 5% as well ! .... oops ... he may be doing that also ... Why exactly is Britain GREAT again? 
But to the majority of people who own top marque type vehicles, it isn`t going to have an affect. He`s just digging his own grave by alienating performance car owners further... surely by now he has seen enough people leave the UK and take their hard earned with them? Now he wants to tax those who have stayed and bought expensive toys even more ... oh dear ...
Why not put Stamp Duty up to 5% as well ! .... oops ... he may be doing that also ... Why exactly is Britain GREAT again? Gassing Station | Porsche General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff