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Have a 997 C4S for the day today - what an awesome car!
Really want one - however, I have to say that the magazines and TV programmes are very misleading.
Yes it is more practical than just about any other supercar but it's not actually practical, which is what the magazines suggest.
It's ride / handling compromise is awesome and you can use it for quick jaunt to the shops (which I guess is where the comments around everyday useability come from) but if you had serious mileage to do everyday at normal speeds, it would get on your nerves and you'd be worn out when you got home.
However, it is without doubt the most amazing piece of kit I've ever driven on the road, the brakes are awesome as std, (who needs the carbon ceramic thingamys). It's plenty fast enough, sounds unbelievable (with sports exhaust) - it has so much character. How could you not like it?
The problem for me now is that I want one and my son's baby seat won't allow him to sit in the back comfortably - if there's a decent (small) alternative to the huge Britax thing we have for him, then I think I can convince the Mrs, if not then it'll have to wait around 3 years - bummer!
Really want one - however, I have to say that the magazines and TV programmes are very misleading.
Yes it is more practical than just about any other supercar but it's not actually practical, which is what the magazines suggest.
It's ride / handling compromise is awesome and you can use it for quick jaunt to the shops (which I guess is where the comments around everyday useability come from) but if you had serious mileage to do everyday at normal speeds, it would get on your nerves and you'd be worn out when you got home.
However, it is without doubt the most amazing piece of kit I've ever driven on the road, the brakes are awesome as std, (who needs the carbon ceramic thingamys). It's plenty fast enough, sounds unbelievable (with sports exhaust) - it has so much character. How could you not like it?
The problem for me now is that I want one and my son's baby seat won't allow him to sit in the back comfortably - if there's a decent (small) alternative to the huge Britax thing we have for him, then I think I can convince the Mrs, if not then it'll have to wait around 3 years - bummer!
Edited by j-p on Friday 23 February 12:02
I test drove one the other day and could not see the point of the C4S over my C2S. No difference at all to me apart from it costing loads more and I hated the PASM. It really is either too floaty or too hard. Try a C2S.
No idea why you think a 997 could not be used every day? I have driven 1500 miles in one weekend in it and it was not even slightly hard work.
No idea why you think a 997 could not be used every day? I have driven 1500 miles in one weekend in it and it was not even slightly hard work.
PASM is standard on the 'S' models, BUT if the car is specc'd with the Sports Chassis when built new then PASM is automatically deleted - you get an lsd instead. In reality very few people spec the Sports Chassis so pretty much all the 'S' models you see will have PASM. Hope that helps.
j-p said:
Have a 997 C4S for the day today - what an awesome car!
Really want one - however, I have to say that the magazines and TV programmes are very misleading.
Yes it is more practical than just about any other supercar but it's not actually practical, which is what the magazines suggest.
It's ride / handling compromise is awesome and you can use it for quick jaunt to the shops (which I guess is where the comments around everyday useability come from) but if you had serious mileage to do everyday at normal speeds, it would get on your nerves and you'd be worn out when you got home.
However, it is without doubt the most amazing piece of kit I've ever driven on the road, the brakes are awesome as std, (who needs the carbon ceramic thingamys). It's plenty fast enough, sounds unbelievable (with sports exhaust) - it has so much character. How could you not like it?
The problem for me now is that I want one and my son's baby seat won't allow him to sit in the back comfortably - if there's a decent (small) alternative to the huge Britax thing we have for him, then I think I can convince the Mrs, is not then it'll have to wait around 3 years - bummer!
Really want one - however, I have to say that the magazines and TV programmes are very misleading.
Yes it is more practical than just about any other supercar but it's not actually practical, which is what the magazines suggest.
It's ride / handling compromise is awesome and you can use it for quick jaunt to the shops (which I guess is where the comments around everyday useability come from) but if you had serious mileage to do everyday at normal speeds, it would get on your nerves and you'd be worn out when you got home.
However, it is without doubt the most amazing piece of kit I've ever driven on the road, the brakes are awesome as std, (who needs the carbon ceramic thingamys). It's plenty fast enough, sounds unbelievable (with sports exhaust) - it has so much character. How could you not like it?
The problem for me now is that I want one and my son's baby seat won't allow him to sit in the back comfortably - if there's a decent (small) alternative to the huge Britax thing we have for him, then I think I can convince the Mrs, is not then it'll have to wait around 3 years - bummer!
Mamas & Papas Pro tech fits perfect in the back of a 911, I have one in mine.
Hard work compared to what?
I drove my 968 to Derby and back in one day and I have to say I was knackered in the evening. The drone of the DeCat and extra concentration was draining. However, I am used to a MG ZT-T which is quieter etc.
I used to use the CS everyday (and for business) and do a 500 mile round trip without a problem so you would soon get used to a 997.
I drove my 968 to Derby and back in one day and I have to say I was knackered in the evening. The drone of the DeCat and extra concentration was draining. However, I am used to a MG ZT-T which is quieter etc.
I used to use the CS everyday (and for business) and do a 500 mile round trip without a problem so you would soon get used to a 997.
Thunderfoot said:
j-p said:
Have a 997 C4S for the day today - what an awesome car!
Really want one - however, I have to say that the magazines and TV programmes are very misleading.
Yes it is more practical than just about any other supercar but it's not actually practical, which is what the magazines suggest.
It's ride / handling compromise is awesome and you can use it for quick jaunt to the shops (which I guess is where the comments around everyday useability come from) but if you had serious mileage to do everyday at normal speeds, it would get on your nerves and you'd be worn out when you got home.
However, it is without doubt the most amazing piece of kit I've ever driven on the road, the brakes are awesome as std, (who needs the carbon ceramic thingamys). It's plenty fast enough, sounds unbelievable (with sports exhaust) - it has so much character. How could you not like it?
The problem for me now is that I want one and my son's baby seat won't allow him to sit in the back comfortably - if there's a decent (small) alternative to the huge Britax thing we have for him, then I think I can convince the Mrs, is not then it'll have to wait around 3 years - bummer!
Really want one - however, I have to say that the magazines and TV programmes are very misleading.
Yes it is more practical than just about any other supercar but it's not actually practical, which is what the magazines suggest.
It's ride / handling compromise is awesome and you can use it for quick jaunt to the shops (which I guess is where the comments around everyday useability come from) but if you had serious mileage to do everyday at normal speeds, it would get on your nerves and you'd be worn out when you got home.
However, it is without doubt the most amazing piece of kit I've ever driven on the road, the brakes are awesome as std, (who needs the carbon ceramic thingamys). It's plenty fast enough, sounds unbelievable (with sports exhaust) - it has so much character. How could you not like it?
The problem for me now is that I want one and my son's baby seat won't allow him to sit in the back comfortably - if there's a decent (small) alternative to the huge Britax thing we have for him, then I think I can convince the Mrs, is not then it'll have to wait around 3 years - bummer!
Mamas & Papas Pro tech fits perfect in the back of a 911, I have one in mine.
You are a star! I'll take a look at the weekend - Thank you
jjr1 said:
I test drove one the other day and could not see the point of the C4S over my C2S. No difference at all to me apart from it costing loads more and I hated the PASM. It really is either too floaty or too hard. Try a C2S.
I think you are confusing the C4S v C2S with the PASM v LSD debate. I have a PASM equipped C4S and am perfectly happy with it - in normal mode I don't consider it 'floaty' - maybe in this respect the heavier 4WD front end works in its favour? The sport mode is too harsh for bumpy roads, but for twisty smooth tarmac, of which there is plenty around here, it works very well. Have yet to try it on a track, yet.
jjr1 said:
No idea why you think a 997 could not be used every day? I have driven 1500 miles in one weekend in it and it was not even slightly hard work.
Agree strongly - mine is used everyday
sidicks
Ok - here's practical for you..... I've done 1000 miles in 3 days in a 997 Targa 4S completely comfortably and regularly commute 150 miles a day...
However, slightly more impressive - a couple of weeks ago, i needed to move some stuff.... I thought to myself, 'Borrow a van from work...? Nahh... it'll be alright - after all I've got a 911 hatchback, what more could I need?'
So I moved, (in one go I hasten to add)
* a black and decker work bench
* a karcher jet washing thingy
* a plethora of power tools
* a small tool chest/topbox type thing
* a couple of saws
* a electric car polisher
And last but not least
* a MOUNTAIN BIKE...!!!!
Oh and a box of 20 bottles of Becks.... There was still space for plenty more stuff too.
And all without using the passenger seat/footwell.
Damn it was impressive.....
Pat cash said:
Ok - here's practical for you..... I've done 1000 miles in 3 days in a 997 Targa 4S completely comfortably and regularly commute 150 miles a day...
However, slightly more impressive - a couple of weeks ago, i needed to move some stuff.... I thought to myself, 'Borrow a van from work...? Nahh... it'll be alright - after all I've got a 911 hatchback, what more could I need?'
So I moved, (in one go I hasten to add)
* a black and decker work bench
* a karcher jet washing thingy
* a plethora of power tools
* a small tool chest/topbox type thing
* a couple of saws
* a electric car polisher
And last but not least
* a MOUNTAIN BIKE...!!!!
Oh and a box of 20 bottles of Becks.... There was still space for plenty more stuff too.
And all without using the passenger seat/footwell.
Damn it was impressive.....
You're a genius - i struggled with 3 other people! Anyway, bottom line is I want one and now have to convince the Mrs that it's perfectly suited to family life - so these threads will definitely help - thank you
j-p said:
Pat cash said:
Ok - here's practical for you..... I've done 1000 miles in 3 days in a 997 Targa 4S completely comfortably and regularly commute 150 miles a day...
However, slightly more impressive - a couple of weeks ago, i needed to move some stuff.... I thought to myself, 'Borrow a van from work...? Nahh... it'll be alright - after all I've got a 911 hatchback, what more could I need?'
So I moved, (in one go I hasten to add)
* a black and decker work bench
* a karcher jet washing thingy
* a plethora of power tools
* a small tool chest/topbox type thing
* a couple of saws
* a electric car polisher
And last but not least
* a MOUNTAIN BIKE...!!!!
Oh and a box of 20 bottles of Becks.... There was still space for plenty more stuff too.
And all without using the passenger seat/footwell.
Damn it was impressive.....
You're a genius - i struggled with 3 other people! Anyway, bottom line is I want one and now have to convince the Mrs that it's perfectly suited to family life - so these threads will definitely help - thank you
It was all down to the opening rear glass - makes life SO much easier...
Pat cash said:
j-p said:
Pat cash said:
Ok - here's practical for you..... I've done 1000 miles in 3 days in a 997 Targa 4S completely comfortably and regularly commute 150 miles a day...
However, slightly more impressive - a couple of weeks ago, i needed to move some stuff.... I thought to myself, 'Borrow a van from work...? Nahh... it'll be alright - after all I've got a 911 hatchback, what more could I need?'
So I moved, (in one go I hasten to add)
* a black and decker work bench
* a karcher jet washing thingy
* a plethora of power tools
* a small tool chest/topbox type thing
* a couple of saws
* a electric car polisher
And last but not least
* a MOUNTAIN BIKE...!!!!
Oh and a box of 20 bottles of Becks.... There was still space for plenty more stuff too.
And all without using the passenger seat/footwell.
Damn it was impressive.....
You're a genius - i struggled with 3 other people! Anyway, bottom line is I want one and now have to convince the Mrs that it's perfectly suited to family life - so these threads will definitely help - thank you
It was all down to the opening rear glass - makes life SO much easier...
They had a targa 4 in the showroom - black with the right options for about 75k - how are you finding yours?
j-p said:
Pat cash said:
j-p said:
Pat cash said:
Ok - here's practical for you..... I've done 1000 miles in 3 days in a 997 Targa 4S completely comfortably and regularly commute 150 miles a day...
However, slightly more impressive - a couple of weeks ago, i needed to move some stuff.... I thought to myself, 'Borrow a van from work...? Nahh... it'll be alright - after all I've got a 911 hatchback, what more could I need?'
So I moved, (in one go I hasten to add)
* a black and decker work bench
* a karcher jet washing thingy
* a plethora of power tools
* a small tool chest/topbox type thing
* a couple of saws
* a electric car polisher
And last but not least
* a MOUNTAIN BIKE...!!!!
Oh and a box of 20 bottles of Becks.... There was still space for plenty more stuff too.
And all without using the passenger seat/footwell.
Damn it was impressive.....
You're a genius - i struggled with 3 other people! Anyway, bottom line is I want one and now have to convince the Mrs that it's perfectly suited to family life - so these threads will definitely help - thank you
It was all down to the opening rear glass - makes life SO much easier...
They had a targa 4 in the showroom - black with the right options for about 75k - how are you finding yours?
Been fortunate enough to have driven a number of 996/997 variants and I know that Targa isn't particularly big in the UK, however I really like the lightness in the cabin - its a really nice place to be compared to a coupe. It really surprised me when I first drove a 996 targa - as wasn't expecting to like it. The 997 design with the chrome strips is different too (particularly on a black car)- gets lots of looks compared to a coupe. Drives really well - as one would expect.
And as I said, I love the opening rear glass - makes the rear luggage space much more useable.
Definitely don't discount it for being a targa - have a go - it might just surprise you!
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