993 - Exhaust Upgrades and Varioram or Not?
Discussion
Hello all,
Are there any problems with Varioram cars that non-Variorams don't have? Looking for a car and considering going for something a bit lower mileage than I was before which means varioram, it seems.
Also, I met a chap at Norhway on Saturday who had a lovely sounding C4S and he mentioned it had the muffler replaced with an item from Belgium... does anyone know where I can find said item? Apparently it's quite a common modification.
Yours,
Giles
Are there any problems with Varioram cars that non-Variorams don't have? Looking for a car and considering going for something a bit lower mileage than I was before which means varioram, it seems.
Also, I met a chap at Norhway on Saturday who had a lovely sounding C4S and he mentioned it had the muffler replaced with an item from Belgium... does anyone know where I can find said item? Apparently it's quite a common modification.
Yours,
Giles
He's probably talking about the RSR replacement back boxes from Gert Carnewal (www.carnewal.com) - they just OEM boxes with the interior cells removed. You get them on sale or return and if you like them, you send your own back to Gert - 400 Euros. Bargain.
Lurking Lawyer said:
He's probably talking about the RSR replacement back boxes from Gert Carnewal (www.carnewal.com) - they just OEM boxes with the interior cells removed. You get them on sale or return and if you like them, you send your own back to Gert - 400 Euros. Bargain.
Cheers chaps - you're a goldmine!
Can I run something else past you..?
993 Cab with top notch SH (£5k spent last year), 109k miles, £20k
or
993 Cab with top notch SH, 51k, £26k
Which strikes you as the better value?
Ooer, too many variables to compute without seeing the cars.
Some points that may help you separate the two:
Both cars will probably be in need of some suspension refurbishment if this has not been done already.
The lower mileage car sounds like a bit of a garage Queen. You may find it needs some money spent on it on things like brakes, suspension, clutch and some other bits and pieces. So you could easily pay more for it and then end up having to shell out even more money soon after.
Are the cars a similar specification? Air conditioning is nice to have as are hardback sport seats.
Forgot to add. Have an extended test drive in them. Some cars just feel "right" irrespective of age and mileage.
Good luck.
pp
Some points that may help you separate the two:
Both cars will probably be in need of some suspension refurbishment if this has not been done already.
The lower mileage car sounds like a bit of a garage Queen. You may find it needs some money spent on it on things like brakes, suspension, clutch and some other bits and pieces. So you could easily pay more for it and then end up having to shell out even more money soon after.
Are the cars a similar specification? Air conditioning is nice to have as are hardback sport seats.
Forgot to add. Have an extended test drive in them. Some cars just feel "right" irrespective of age and mileage.
Good luck.
pp
Edited by Pickled Piper on Sunday 18th February 22:20
Pickled Piper said:
Ooer, too many variables to compute without seeing the cars.
Some points that may help you separate the two:
Both cars will probably be in need of some suspension refurbishment if this has not been done already.
The lower mileage car sounds like a bit of a garage Queen. You may find it needs some money spent on it on things like brakes, suspension, clutch and some other bits and pieces. So you could easily pay more for it and then end up having to shell out even more money soon after.
Are the cars a similar specification? Air conditioning is nice to have as are hardback sport seats.
Forgot to add. Have an extended test drive in them. Some cars just feel "right" irrespective of age and mileage.
Good luck.
pp
Some points that may help you separate the two:
Both cars will probably be in need of some suspension refurbishment if this has not been done already.
The lower mileage car sounds like a bit of a garage Queen. You may find it needs some money spent on it on things like brakes, suspension, clutch and some other bits and pieces. So you could easily pay more for it and then end up having to shell out even more money soon after.
Are the cars a similar specification? Air conditioning is nice to have as are hardback sport seats.
Forgot to add. Have an extended test drive in them. Some cars just feel "right" irrespective of age and mileage.
Good luck.
pp
Edited by Pickled Piper on Sunday 18th February 22:20
Thanks for that - very helpful.
Both cars have the sports seats and are generally very similarly spec'ed (though the lower mileage is an R reg and thus a Varioram whilst the higher mileage is an M reg non-Varioram). Neither have air-con but they're cabriolets and I've never really used air-con anyway. Apparently weighs 20kg as well so that might off-set some of my personal bulk...
The high mileage car has had its brakes etc. done very recently and was previously owned by a fastidious 60-year old chap who did about 10k miles a year in it for 5 years.
Buying an old car is not easy.
Do you drive a 993? Shopping for one, it's been very strange to hear the salesmen describe them as supercars - a chipped Focus ST has more power!
Giles,
I have had my 993 for two years. It's a C4 Coupe with the RSR exhausts that you like the sound of.
You are right about the power output from modern cars. The 993 was extremely quick in it's day and still very quick today. Granted, a lot of modern cars have the ability to stay with it in a straight line. However, the combination of light weight, handling and braking ability still make them a very formidable A to B car. On top of that it just oozes character that nothing else can quite match. Anyway, I don't need to sell it to you, you've decided to buy one already.
There's some excellent technical information on here if you run a search. Also, there is an excellent buyers guide on the 993 section of the Porsche Club GB forum.
pp
I have had my 993 for two years. It's a C4 Coupe with the RSR exhausts that you like the sound of.
You are right about the power output from modern cars. The 993 was extremely quick in it's day and still very quick today. Granted, a lot of modern cars have the ability to stay with it in a straight line. However, the combination of light weight, handling and braking ability still make them a very formidable A to B car. On top of that it just oozes character that nothing else can quite match. Anyway, I don't need to sell it to you, you've decided to buy one already.
There's some excellent technical information on here if you run a search. Also, there is an excellent buyers guide on the 993 section of the Porsche Club GB forum.
pp
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