Petrol fumes...

Petrol fumes...

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montegogt

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421 posts

274 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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When I fill right up, I notice petrol fumes when I corner or hit a rough bit of road. Is it the tank breather? Is there a tank breather? Where is the tank breather? Or am I looking at a bigger problem?

shpub

8,507 posts

283 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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For a start which car?

Yes there is. Usually routed behind the carpet in the boot and exits out of the boot floor. I had to fit a one way valve in mine now so that air can get in but fuel doesn't. Could also be a non sealing petrol cap or you have a fuel pipe leak somewhere.

Steve
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>> Edited by shpub on Tuesday 8th April 09:56

digga951

488 posts

286 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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My 350i used to have the same problem and it turned out to be a non-sealing fuel cap. The round piece of rubber in the cap was absent so I made one out of some spare rubber I had and now all is fine. Will also fail the MOT if this isn't present.

jvaughan

6,025 posts

294 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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digga951 said: My 350i used to have the same problem and it turned out to be a non-sealing fuel cap. The round piece of rubber in the cap was absent so I made one out of some spare rubber I had and now all is fine. Will also fail the MOT if this isn't present.





is it an MOT failure ? No one has ever inspected the inside of my fuel cap!

jmorgan

36,010 posts

295 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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Yep a fail if knackered. Have a look here. Handy little site. I assume its up to date legal etc?
www.ukmot.com/manual/6-7.htm

montegogt

Original Poster:

421 posts

274 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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Steve, it's an '87 350i. I have checked the filler cap seal. There is no leakage from there, so I think the breather sounds like the culprit.
What sort of non-return valve did you use? What was it off?

Lee

montegogt

Original Poster:

421 posts

274 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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Think some of you are going to the wrong MoT test station...

shpub

8,507 posts

283 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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montegogt said: Steve, it's an '87 350i. I have checked the filler cap seal. There is no leakage from there, so I think the breather sounds like the culprit.
What sort of non-return valve did you use? What was it off?

Lee



Demon Tweeks motor sport one. About £50 IIRC. An alternative that is cheaper is to get some longer tubing and create some loops in it. It may even be that the pipe is split or leaking.

sevans

1,165 posts

278 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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There are a couple of joints between the filler and the tanks which may also be causing the problem. If you fill the tanks right up it's possible for fuel to sit in these joints. May be worth looking at these before you start fitting non-return valves etc.
Regards

jvaughan

6,025 posts

294 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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montegogt said: Think some of you are going to the wrong MoT test station...


I was thinking that ....

danny hoffman

1,617 posts

273 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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Is there supposed to be a rubber seal inside the petrol cap? Mine hasn't got one (looks like a metal sprung one) and yes I do get the odd dribble if I fill right up.

Danny

gemini

11,352 posts

275 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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danny hoffman said
yes I do get the odd dribble if I fill right up.



Uhm!

danny hoffman

1,617 posts

273 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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I can't wait until Ian reads this.....

montegogt

Original Poster:

421 posts

274 months

Wednesday 9th April 2003
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Thanks for all your hints. I will have a nose this weekend.
Oh I get a dribble too, but I thought that was down the the prostrate... I find that those things with wings save any embarassment... Or wearing dark coloured trousers... Too much info?

montegogt

Original Poster:

421 posts

274 months

Wednesday 9th April 2003
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Thanks for all your hints. I will have a nose this weekend.
Oh I get a dribble too, but I thought that was down the the prostrate... I find that those things with wings save any embarassment... Or wearing dark coloured trousers... Too much info?

bobble350

118 posts

265 months

Wednesday 9th April 2003
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I think they spit fuel on start up due to the(overcomplicated) design of the supply/ return plumbing. Correct me if I'm wrong but the return only goes to one tank and this can push fuel out of the overflow, especially if you're parked looking uphill.

shpub

8,507 posts

283 months

Wednesday 9th April 2003
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Can't see how as it returns the fuel to the tank without the overflow. The pump is also removing as mich fuel as comes back and even more when the engine is running.

bobble350

118 posts

265 months

Wednesday 9th April 2003
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Mine spit fuel out of the overflow on at least four occasions on start up when it was full.
Suppose it may have been vapour in the return line? (above the exhaust) can't explain the ins and outs, but it certainly used to dump about an egg cup full.

sevans

1,165 posts

278 months

Wednesday 9th April 2003
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Is there any reason for the breather pipe to cross from the filler on the O/S to drain out of the boot at the N/S bumber? It seems like a lot of extra pipe and routing when it could breath from the same side as the filler.

Paulmarshall

33 posts

274 months

Friday 18th April 2003
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On the subject of fuel caps. I want to replace mine with a locking cap. This will hopefully solve the missing seal problem. What caps would be suitable to fit. I understand it can be bad news to fit a wrong one.