Tempted by Cayennne S
Tempted by Cayennne S
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singh911

Original Poster:

957 posts

271 months

Monday 25th December 2006
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I've become very tempted by a Cayenne S to use as my daily car.

Outside the opc network, one can get a well specc'd (air susp, 20" alloys, satnav and full leather) example with around 30k miles for around £28k, maybe a bit less. Dark colour with black leather does it for me.

Seems a good price to buy in at, maybe still losing money but wondered what opinions are as to seeing a sub £20k Cayenne S anytime soon.

I wonder if owners could chip in here and let me know if they have/don't have any item of spec. that they would really recommend over/different from the above.

Also, aside from a proper inspection and warranty, is there anything in particular to look for?

Thanks

Ajit

kiko

269 posts

256 months

Tuesday 26th December 2006
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At the prices they are being sold, a dark coloured Cayenne fitted with the trick air susp. is the best piece of kit on the road.

sarbs

264 posts

266 months

Tuesday 26th December 2006
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Black with Black looks great, wife prefers titanium, hence our Cayenne for sale on pistonheads, already have a 2006 titanium replacement identified.

PcmII with upgrade essential (upgrade allows post code entry and dynamic traffic guidence.
Our car is non air suspension, not been a problem due to the limited miles it covers.
Fuel consumption is high but nobody expects a petrol porsche suv to be frugal!
A poorly spec'd car will be very hard to sell for a true price, expect traders to ofer low £20's for a 2-3 year old s that has covered 35k miles! 3.2 has better long term residuals.
Standard Cayenne 3.2's have good residuals as people like myself buy the wife one, not bothered about the added grunt of the S or turbo. S and turbo better cars but demand is lower.
As with all porkers service history and warranty should be sought.
Build quality far superior to the range sport, sold ours after 1 year when things were no longer feeling as new!
Our Cayenne is solid as a rock, will stick to them as family cars as long as the bank balance permits.
Porsche never miss a trick, they build a jeep for the top end boys to race sports coupes with and basic jeeps that people can be happy to see their families pop down to the shops in!

thestoic

25 posts

256 months

Tuesday 26th December 2006
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Just a thought, but I've recently chopped in an E39 M5 for a 4.6 X5. Very impressed. Way, way better drive than the KN S and more low end fun than the KN TT. Take one for a spin, you'll save yourself 5-10 grand and have the better motor...

singh911

Original Poster:

957 posts

271 months

Tuesday 26th December 2006
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I've driven a few X5s and they're good drivers. Only driven a Cayenne S briefly so not enough to form a view as to whats the better drive.

Not based on any logic i can identify but i don't like the image of the X5 but do like the image of the Cayenne! Maybe cos there's too many wide boys with X5s and big alloys around where we are.

Cheers

Ajit

martind

2,138 posts

257 months

Tuesday 26th December 2006
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Don't forget that the facelift/improved CN is due end of FEB. , so secondhand prices for the 'old' models will drop a bit faster . Might be better to wait till middle of March for the best deals once they start to filter through.

lex luther

103 posts

240 months

Tuesday 26th December 2006
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I recently 'Retired' my 996 C2 for the weekends and as much as I wanted to stay with a Porsche for the daily driver I've went with the 3.0 diesel X5 - the only problem is for how much they cost there are too many on the road to feel special - my 911 must only be worth half of what the X5 is, yet gets all the attention. Its fast enought, decent to drive, got all the kit and will hold its value better than a cayenne. Its what the mkII Cayenne should be looking to beat.

paracetamol

4,267 posts

274 months

Wednesday 27th December 2006
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DONT DO IT-Go and drive an E55 AMG estate or a 530d sport estate-they are infinitely better (and not pig ugly!)

hoges11

1,011 posts

258 months

Wednesday 27th December 2006
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or the Lexus RX400h, quick comfy cheap to run and never goes wrong, and its not an X5 (know what you mean about wide boys)

david911RSR

1,446 posts

240 months

Wednesday 27th December 2006
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Be very careful with Colour and spec. Black, Silver and Titainium are the only colours that attract any interest when you want to sell. Tip,Sat/Nav and 19 or 20" rims are a must. Heated seats and interior ali pack really help as do Xenons, Multi function steering wheel and Bose/CD. If I had a Cayenne again, I would also opt for the air suspension as the standard suspension is rubbish if you are looking for a decent ride.

Cayenne S is the one to go ( will out perform an X5 4.6S all day) for as the standard model is under powered and has simialr MPG to the S. TT is very quick but second hand market is even narrower.

With a Standard Cayenne make sure it has the Air conditioning upgrade!

Depreciation is a Killer. I sold my Cayenne S last Feb. It was a Black 03/03 car with 10k worth of options and 27K miles. I was offered £27.5k - £29K trade. I understand the car is worth £24k today at best.

Most dealers I talk to are finding the Cayenne market very difficult and stock moves very slowly. Therefore, make sure you negotiate hard and be prepared for further depreciation when the new model arrives.

david911RSR

1,446 posts

240 months

Wednesday 27th December 2006
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One final point - MPG is 16 round town, 20 - 22 on a long motorway run

singh911

Original Poster:

957 posts

271 months

Thursday 28th December 2006
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16mpg in town is okay - no worse than my Jag XJ8 which will be going (let it be said that its one of the best built cars i've ever had, 2001 car, have put 80k miles on it in 4 years and its now got 120k on it). Much better built than our E320, feels like the old mercs did in the 80s. Jag have really got their big cars right on the button.

Anyway, about Cayenne values. The S at say £25/26k private buy is a great 2nd had buy. When mk2 comes out, it may shave a bit more off but how far can they fall?

Maybe worth similar to what a premium exec saloon (5 series or E class) is worth at 3 yrs old (late teens, early 20s)

Cheers

Ajit.

hoges11

1,011 posts

258 months

Thursday 28th December 2006
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MPG on the lexus is 25 around town (the electric kicks in) and a few better on long runs

singh911

Original Poster:

957 posts

271 months

Thursday 28th December 2006
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The lexus hybrid is great but you can't get one for £28k

Ajit.

hoges11

1,011 posts

258 months

Thursday 28th December 2006
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singh911 said:
The lexus hybrid is great but you can't get one for £28k

Ajit.


Too true we just had to pay £38k for ours but having checked out the Cayenne Volvo and X5 it made the most sense, Cayennes do look great value though

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 28th December 2006
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singh911 said:
The lexus hybrid is great but you can't get one for £28k

Ajit.


and reliability of all those electrics is going to be a MAJOR issue once out of waranty

hoges11

1,011 posts

258 months

Thursday 28th December 2006
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francisb said:
singh911 said:
The lexus hybrid is great but you can't get one for £28k

Ajit.


and reliability of all those electrics is going to be a MAJOR issue once out of waranty


laughLexus is japanese for reliability, had my last for 5 years 50K never spent a penny outside of servicing

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 28th December 2006
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hoges11 said:

laughLexus is japanese for reliability, had my last for 5 years 50K never spent a penny outside of servicing


ignoring the fact that you didnt have a hybrid for 5 years, great for you but i didnt say they were unreliable. the replacement cost of those computers/electrics/motors is going to be huge, WHEN they start to fail residuals are going to freefall - that was my only observation. i dont care either way

hoges11

1,011 posts

258 months

Thursday 28th December 2006
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Cant imagine that the Cayenne or X5 are any less complex/computerised

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 28th December 2006
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hoges11 said:

Cant imagine that the Cayenne or X5 are any less complex/computerised


are you serious? do you understand how hybrid systems work ?