How much do you reakon my car's worth?
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Without giving me a load of old crap answers answer me honestly Gents, how much do you reakon my car would sell for through Pistonheads Classified if I was to sell in Jan 07?
Here is the spec:
Porsche 996 Turbo
First Registered 22nd June 2001 – 54,480 Miles – used everyday.
– 3 owners including me.
Arctic Silver – (polished weekly)
Full Black leather – (in immaculate condition – treated every 3 months)
Crested Headrests
White Dials
Small Ali Pack – Handbrake, Turbo Gear Stick,
Colour Coded parts on dash – vents, main dash around aircon – see photos
Porsche Mats
Porsche CD Changer
Fitted with Tracker Retrieve on 17th Feb 2005
ECU remapped by REVO to around 470-500 BHP Est’ before purchase via Paragon – all double checked on computer with Paragon at purchase and all settings perfect – recently also checked by Porsche and no problems. Program running in parallel so can be put back to standard if required.
All other turbo standard extras.
Full Porsche Service History – Serviced on:
15/8/02 – Major
6/8/03 – Minor/Yearly – Status Report carried out.
17/2/05 – Major – with Spark Plug Change and Brake Fluid Change
26/10/05 – Minor –Status Report carried out
10/08/06 – Major with Spark Plug Change and Brake Fluid Change – Status report carried out – service carried out early
MOT Expires 7th Feb 2007
Additional work to date with receipts:
12th May 2005 – Drive Belt Changed
Brake Pads changed all round
Working carried out by RSR Engineering
14th Sept 2005 - Stone chips repaired and scratch repaired on roof.
26th Oct 2005 - 2 new side light bulbs and PU Vents + Bulkhead cleaned out.
30th March 2006 - New Tyres purchased all round – Pirelli Pzero N3’s.
28th April 2006 - New Tyre purchased due to puncture, purchased new trim part needed to keep it perfect.
10th April 2006 – New Windscreen Fitted due to stone chip/crack.
8th June 2006 - Four Wheel Alignment check and geometry adjusted
31st July 2006 - New MAF sensor fitted
10th August 2006 - New Clutch Fitted - £3124 bill paid to get car perfect.
Thanks for your help, this will help me decide if to keep or if to sell.
Cheers TG
Here is the spec:
Porsche 996 Turbo
First Registered 22nd June 2001 – 54,480 Miles – used everyday.
– 3 owners including me.
Arctic Silver – (polished weekly)
Full Black leather – (in immaculate condition – treated every 3 months)
Crested Headrests
White Dials
Small Ali Pack – Handbrake, Turbo Gear Stick,
Colour Coded parts on dash – vents, main dash around aircon – see photos
Porsche Mats
Porsche CD Changer
Fitted with Tracker Retrieve on 17th Feb 2005
ECU remapped by REVO to around 470-500 BHP Est’ before purchase via Paragon – all double checked on computer with Paragon at purchase and all settings perfect – recently also checked by Porsche and no problems. Program running in parallel so can be put back to standard if required.
All other turbo standard extras.
Full Porsche Service History – Serviced on:
15/8/02 – Major
6/8/03 – Minor/Yearly – Status Report carried out.
17/2/05 – Major – with Spark Plug Change and Brake Fluid Change
26/10/05 – Minor –Status Report carried out
10/08/06 – Major with Spark Plug Change and Brake Fluid Change – Status report carried out – service carried out early
MOT Expires 7th Feb 2007
Additional work to date with receipts:
12th May 2005 – Drive Belt Changed
Brake Pads changed all round
Working carried out by RSR Engineering
14th Sept 2005 - Stone chips repaired and scratch repaired on roof.
26th Oct 2005 - 2 new side light bulbs and PU Vents + Bulkhead cleaned out.
30th March 2006 - New Tyres purchased all round – Pirelli Pzero N3’s.
28th April 2006 - New Tyre purchased due to puncture, purchased new trim part needed to keep it perfect.
10th April 2006 – New Windscreen Fitted due to stone chip/crack.
8th June 2006 - Four Wheel Alignment check and geometry adjusted
31st July 2006 - New MAF sensor fitted
10th August 2006 - New Clutch Fitted - £3124 bill paid to get car perfect.
Thanks for your help, this will help me decide if to keep or if to sell.
Cheers TG
Personally as someone who would love a turbo in the future and someone who's had experience of modded cars in the past is that you'll get less for it as its had the engine upgrade that if it was standard. People will be put off by the fact that it will have been abused - I'm sure it hasn't, but they will think that the extra power will have put extra strain on all the other components (gearbox, transmission, driveshafts, brakes etc), let alone been driven more 'energetically' than a normal car. After all, if the previous owner (before you) had driven it normally, why would they want to increase the power beyond what is already a high figure.
You say it can be reset back to normal ... so, wouldn't it be better to do that before selling it ?
I'd say low 40's as it is, high 40's if it were normal.
You say it can be reset back to normal ... so, wouldn't it be better to do that before selling it ?
I'd say low 40's as it is, high 40's if it were normal.
I understand the point about modifications to cars and I do believe it's very difficult to re-claim the money when you come to sell. Perhaps an exception is factory fitted modifications when the car was built...such as the X packs. However I personally wouldn't be too put off by the power hike as I've read several times that the standard turbo engine is capable in un-modified form of anything upto around 600BHP.
I would have thought 42 to 43K and don't worry about the modification being put back to normal...I wouldn't bother putting it back to standard. If you're confident it's a good car then stick with it as it is. I'd be looking more at the service history and evidence of care for the car. The power hike wouldn't bother me too much. It's also true to say that there is another market in which the power hike would appeal to people.
I think you may have to get it MOT'd though....Feb 07 is a bit soon. Also not sure about the polished weekly bit...I'd get the impression that maybe it's been over treated in terms of polish or that you're trying to hard in your advert.
I would have thought 42 to 43K and don't worry about the modification being put back to normal...I wouldn't bother putting it back to standard. If you're confident it's a good car then stick with it as it is. I'd be looking more at the service history and evidence of care for the car. The power hike wouldn't bother me too much. It's also true to say that there is another market in which the power hike would appeal to people.
I think you may have to get it MOT'd though....Feb 07 is a bit soon. Also not sure about the polished weekly bit...I'd get the impression that maybe it's been over treated in terms of polish or that you're trying to hard in your advert.
Edited by truckpdt on Tuesday 19th December 13:07
Edited by truckpdt on Tuesday 19th December 13:08
truckpdt said:
I understand the point about modifications to cars and I do believe it's very difficult to re-claim the money when you come to sell. Perhaps an exception is factory fitted modifications when the car was built...such as the X packs. However I personally wouldn't be too put off by the power hike as I've read several times that the standard turbo engine is capable in un-modified form of anything upto around 600BHP.
I would have thought 42 to 43K and don't worry about the modification being put back to normal...I wouldn't bother putting it back to standard. If you're confident it's a good car then stick with it as it is. I'd be looking more at the service history and evidence of care for the car. The power hike wouldn't bother me too much. It's also true to say that there is another market in which the power hike would appeal to people.
I would have thought 42 to 43K and don't worry about the modification being put back to normal...I wouldn't bother putting it back to standard. If you're confident it's a good car then stick with it as it is. I'd be looking more at the service history and evidence of care for the car. The power hike wouldn't bother me too much. It's also true to say that there is another market in which the power hike would appeal to people.
I agree. I am looking for a 996 Turbo, but there is no way I am going to buy anything other than a standard car or X50 car with a Porsche warranty.
There is a very limited market for modded cars, IMHO.
You'd get more for it reverting it to normal and putting the OPC warranty on it, I reckon - wider market.
Vesuvius 996 said:
truckpdt said:
I understand the point about modifications to cars and I do believe it's very difficult to re-claim the money when you come to sell. Perhaps an exception is factory fitted modifications when the car was built...such as the X packs. However I personally wouldn't be too put off by the power hike as I've read several times that the standard turbo engine is capable in un-modified form of anything upto around 600BHP.
I would have thought 42 to 43K and don't worry about the modification being put back to normal...I wouldn't bother putting it back to standard. If you're confident it's a good car then stick with it as it is. I'd be looking more at the service history and evidence of care for the car. The power hike wouldn't bother me too much. It's also true to say that there is another market in which the power hike would appeal to people.
I would have thought 42 to 43K and don't worry about the modification being put back to normal...I wouldn't bother putting it back to standard. If you're confident it's a good car then stick with it as it is. I'd be looking more at the service history and evidence of care for the car. The power hike wouldn't bother me too much. It's also true to say that there is another market in which the power hike would appeal to people.
I agree. I am looking for a 996 Turbo, but there is no way I am going to buy anything other than a standard car or X50 car with a Porsche warranty.
There is a very limited market for modded cars, IMHO.
You'd get more for it reverting it to normal and putting the OPC warranty on it, I reckon - wider market.
And if you do that, I'd reckon low->mid 40s would be a fair price.
Nothways have a 01 996 Turbo with similar miles for £43995.
Hopefully I'll be looking around the mid 40s mark in the new year (waiting to see what bonus is like) so I've been keeping a close eye on 996 Turbo prices recently!
Si
rods said:
grant3 said:
OPC won't buy it because of the mods, I think £38k, 40k if your lucky trade!
They will,not knowingly though,OPC will get them switched back.
So after purchase lets say the engine went bang, the OPC then discover it was modified, you didn't tell them this (they ask on the paperwork you have to fill out)who do you think will be saddled with either the bill or a returned car?
grant3 said:
rods said:
grant3 said:
OPC won't buy it because of the mods, I think £38k, 40k if your lucky trade!
They will,not knowingly though,OPC will get them switched back.
So after purchase lets say the engine went bang, the OPC then discover it was modified, you didn't tell them this (they ask on the paperwork you have to fill out)who do you think will be saddled with either the bill or a returned car?
are you suggesting the OPC would pursue a private punter, having taken a car off them, if it went bang? i think that is unlikely to be a succesful pursuit
softinthehead said:
grant3 said:
rods said:
grant3 said:
OPC won't buy it because of the mods, I think £38k, 40k if your lucky trade!
They will,not knowingly though,OPC will get them switched back.
So after purchase lets say the engine went bang, the OPC then discover it was modified, you didn't tell them this (they ask on the paperwork you have to fill out)who do you think will be saddled with either the bill or a returned car?
are you suggesting the OPC would pursue a private punter, having taken a car off them, if it went bang? i think that is unlikely to be a succesful pursuit
When you sell them a car you have to verify in writing the mileage & history, of course they could come after you if you declared in writing that the car had not been modified & they subsequently found out it had been to the detriment of the internals, they could easily take legal action successfully!
Of course whether they actually would is another matter, but I am just pointing out that unless you sell a car "as seen" with no warrant to condition, use, damage or mileage then they would have legal come back should you have lied about aspects of the sale!
grant3 said:
rods said:
grant3 said:
OPC won't buy it because of the mods, I think £38k, 40k if your lucky trade!
They will,not knowingly though,OPC will get them switched back.
So after purchase lets say the engine went bang, the OPC then discover it was modified, you didn't tell them this (they ask on the paperwork you have to fill out)who do you think will be saddled with either the bill or a returned car?
You tell them that - obviously - it was modded before you bought it, and you had no knowledge of the modification, therefore were being honest on the form.
R.
exactly. which of the three previous owners modded the car? who can tell? If the OPC buys their own brand back and slaps a warranty on it (which presumably means its been inspected to their exacting standards) they would look purdy damn silly standing up in court and saying they hadnt noted it was modded, and then blaming the last punter whom they cant prove to be the culprit is the legal equivalent of emptying a lake with a sieve, i'm sure. IMH(nonlegal)O of course
If I were in your position I would call round a few Indies to see what they would offer. An OPC would not touch it due to Age, Milleage and Mods. Once you understand what the trade and retail prices are, call a few private ads to see if the cars have sold and if so what for. I would suspect your car is worth between £32 - £36k in the trade.
david911RSR said:
If I were in your position I would call round a few Indies to see what they would offer. An OPC would not touch it due to Age, Milleage and Mods. Once you understand what the trade and retail prices are, call a few private ads to see if the cars have sold and if so what for. I would suspect your car is worth between £32 - £36k in the trade.
That's gonna smart
Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Wednesday 20th December 16:57
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