I have been thinking ......

[bea]

Decidedly bored to death with my C4s cab ( who wouldn't be ) - I have two possible plans.
1. New 997 s in black with sand ( my favourite colours for a 911 but hated by you lot it seems !)
2. More radical, 993 turbo and late 60's early 70's 911/912 to restore for weekends.
First thing I was going to ask was lead times from porsche for the new 997 from initial order and secondly does anyone know any restoration places or has anyone ever restored one, how much of a nightmare is it ? - I am a GIRL and no nothing about these things !

Thanks,

Bea

[bea]

Okay .. maybe scratch " bored " and insert " time for a change "

[Geneve]

Keep life simple - either a GT3 or a 997.

A 'classic' 911 might be a romantic notion, but from experience, don't go down the restoration route unless you've got lots of money and lots of patience. The novelty quickly wears off. If you want an early car, far better to buy the very best, fully sorted, example you can find, that has driven someone else to bankrupcy and despair.

[anonymous-user]

bea said:

Decidedly bored to death with my C4s cab ( who wouldn't be ) - I have two possible plans.
1. New 997 s in black with sand ( my favourite colours...

who wouldnt be bored? i dont know, someone who had just taken it out for a sunday morning blast on a sunny december morning?

black with sand? uh whatever. now im bored to death

Edited by francisb on Monday 11th December 10:36

[hoges11]

Hi Bea,

go with the turbo and classic (356) both will be fun and switching from one to the other refreshes each's appeal so boredom is avoided. I'd even suggest the Turbo II (965)rather than 4 and you get both in one.

Not sure about restorers up your way I would say Autofarm further south or Paul Stephens, I know Wild Oliver posts on here regularly and he has a northern based MG and porsche restoration business or Give Baz at Hartech a call for suggestions.

Have fun

[thorny]

Of the two I'd go for the 997 S although if it's excitement you're after you'd be better off going down the 996 Turbo, GT3 or GT3 RS route...

Colour wise - I think it's a girl thing, my girlfriend loves that combo too!

[bea]

Thanks thorny and Hoges11 for your comments ... it would be an interesting combination and would make a change.
I would love a classic porsche and have a vision of a sunny afternoon blast but this is tempered with thoughts of sitting on the hard shoulder in the rain waiting for a recovery vehicle - not a good look.
As for the 997, it could be the time for a brand new car and spec it to exactly how I want ... absolutely black with savannah/sand ( I hate black interiors ... its like driving around in a coffin ) and keep it for a 4/5 years maybe instead of keep chopping and changing every 12 months and not be too concerned as to the resale value as it's what I want to drive and in the long run this has got to make more financial sense.
I have asked a few porsche guys to look out for a classic for me - will keep you posted if I take the plunge !
Thanks,

Bea

[hoges11]

The thing with Porkers is that you dont keep them for 4 or 5 years because you fancy another one much sooner than that. For that reason dont buy new (way too much depreciation) buying very old makes soo much more sense. If you dont want to be stuck on the hardshoulder then anything from 1985 ish onwards should be just fine and anything earlier would be ok if well looked after. personally if I were to buy another it would be a 930 turbo, classic classy and fast.

[997gt3]

Bea - if you want sand in your car then pop down to your local beach with your bucket and spade

Seriously though, you really dont want the new GT3 - dreadful cars and a waste of money....

says me who has one on order but is trying to make them as exclusive as possible to keep values up

[peppersgonecrazy]

i'd look at the 993 turbo. the 997 is too new to judge, you will lose money big time, whereas you could get both cars for the same money as a new 997.

I would seriously council against buying a 70's 911 for restoration unless you know a restorer who will give you a full broken down estimate in advance and will stick to it as you would expect from a legal contract, otherwise it will end up as a case of one thing after another and you maybe in the situation where the restorer is saying oh but i didnt notice this at the time and this will also have to be done.

if you can find one who will do that go for it..otherwise do yourself a favour and just buy the 993. if you really want a more classical porsche, I know a guy who is selling a 3.2 F reg which has only done 23000 miles and is like a new car (quite literally). he wants 25k or so which i think is good (ish)value for the the quality of the machine in question.

good luck and i hope that this was at least a bit helpful

[bea]

Hi Guys,

I have made up my mind and I have decided to go for the new 997s tip in Basalt with sand ( I know, I know ! ) and spec it exactly how I want. As far as depreciation goes I am going stick my head in the sand totally and offset it by the fact that for the first time in 17 years of 911 driving I will have a brand spanking new one as apposed to used. Keep it for a few years then trade again for 997 turbo.
I will have to ignore the usual urge to scratch the itch which will probably come after 12 months or I will be divorced.
As far as the 993 turbo / classic dilemma is concerned I think I would not use the classic as much as I thought and it would remain garaged a lot - I think I would find a manual 993 turbo hard work after getting used to the 996's.
Anyone looking for a low mileage 996 c4s cab in polar let me know .... one careful lady owner !

Edited by bea on Friday 15th December 19:59

Edited by bea on Friday 15th December 19:59

[clorenzen]

You are doing the right thing. Follow your heart. Good luck.

[gaity]

I think you're going down the right route. And FWIW I approve of your colour choice (very similar to my own 993 in black metallic with savannah - so much more style than a black or blue interior) and I'm not a girl!

Enjoy.

[stuttgartmetal]

gaity said:

with savannah

Enjoy.

Ballcock heres another one, at last

[ken993]

bea said:

Hi Guys,

As far as the 993 turbo / classic dilemma is concerned I think I would not use the classic as much as I thought and it would remain garaged a lot - I think I would find a manual 993 turbo hard work after getting used to the 996's.

The 993 Turbo is very easy to drive, the clutch is light although the steering is a little heavy, it's a much more interesting car to drive than the 996. It's a smooth car, until the turbos wake up, then it's exciting, especially if it's had a few tweaks.

I was going to get rid of my 993 when I got the 996 turbo, twelve months later the 996 is gone and the 993 is still in the garage, it will probably outlast the 997.

[p500pdk]

I've spent a lot of time watching some very amusing posts and laughed an awful lot... But the rubbish is beyond belief.. Modern Porsches are not built to the same quality as the older Porsches... Where is the better build quality...? The Cayman and Boxsters are not real Porsches... What utter drivel... I test drove the Cayman back to back with a 911 and I choose the 911 because of the intense whine in my left ear on the Cayman.. Otherwise what a sensational drive. I then took a step further an bought a 997 C2S Cab..... What body roll and other issues raised about cabs... I'm no racing driver but I can drive and the handling is fantastic and I prefer the looks.

I suddenly feel better for this whine buit i've become bored of listening to self absorbed ale drinking whingers that are trying to justify their decisions...

Every Porsche out of Stuttgart is a real Porsche!

[dazren]

bea said:

Anyone looking for a low mileage 996 c4s cab in polar let me know .... one careful lady owner !

Feel free to place an advert on the PH classifieds:

www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?s=554

[adam b]

bea said:

I have decided to go for the new 997s tip in Basalt with sand ( I know, I know ! ) and spec it exactly how I want.

good for you - I actually think the improved colour coordination of 987/997 make sand beige acceptable in a way savannah will never be. Speccing a tip is unforgivable though in my book

Edited by adam b on Sunday 17th December 00:43