997 GT3 - Update/Snippets
Discussion
Dropped my new GT3 in to my OPC this week for a precautionary check over and oil change, and picked up a few bits of info.
The oil change isn't really necessary, but I thought it may as well be done after the first 1500 miles.
Everything else is running perfectly. They checked it over and found it all to be A1.
There are still no other tyre options. The new MPSCs are £302 (inc vat) each for the fronts and £379 (inc vat) each for the rears
They are now readily available, but I'm pretty sure Porsche will be controlling supply (and therefore prices). I do think everyone should be pushing for other 'approved' options, as this will help bring down prices. Fortunately, in 1500 miles of road use, the wear has been nominal. They'll no doubt wear faster in the dry.
I asked if the 'SPORT' switch could be swapped with the 'TC' switch for ease of access, but it can't. The panel and switches are part of a moulded block. It's a pain because the 'SPORT' swich is hidden behind the gear lever.
My car arrived with the standard 'Track' set up. There is now a 'Road' set up, which is slightly softer at the rear. As mine won't see a track for three months, I asked them to adjust it to 'Road' set up. Haven't driven it yet so can't comment. It was pretty good before.
I mentioned about the big exposed intakes and unprotected rads, and apparently Porsche Motorsports do supply mesh grilles for the Cup cars at £240 inc vat. However, these are not an approved Porsche part, so they are not sure if they will fit a road car. Check out photos of Cup cars - some look like a motorsport afterthought, others look nicely integrated. Worth considering though.
The Splitter is quite robust, but it does get scraped on the underside. I ordered a new one 'just in case', as they are only £60.
Otherwise, it's everything you could want in a 911 - brilliant on the road and brilliant on the track, yet as reliable and easy to live with as a VW Golf. Eat your heart out F.599 owners
The oil change isn't really necessary, but I thought it may as well be done after the first 1500 miles.
Everything else is running perfectly. They checked it over and found it all to be A1.
There are still no other tyre options. The new MPSCs are £302 (inc vat) each for the fronts and £379 (inc vat) each for the rears
They are now readily available, but I'm pretty sure Porsche will be controlling supply (and therefore prices). I do think everyone should be pushing for other 'approved' options, as this will help bring down prices. Fortunately, in 1500 miles of road use, the wear has been nominal. They'll no doubt wear faster in the dry. I asked if the 'SPORT' switch could be swapped with the 'TC' switch for ease of access, but it can't. The panel and switches are part of a moulded block. It's a pain because the 'SPORT' swich is hidden behind the gear lever.
My car arrived with the standard 'Track' set up. There is now a 'Road' set up, which is slightly softer at the rear. As mine won't see a track for three months, I asked them to adjust it to 'Road' set up. Haven't driven it yet so can't comment. It was pretty good before.
I mentioned about the big exposed intakes and unprotected rads, and apparently Porsche Motorsports do supply mesh grilles for the Cup cars at £240 inc vat. However, these are not an approved Porsche part, so they are not sure if they will fit a road car. Check out photos of Cup cars - some look like a motorsport afterthought, others look nicely integrated. Worth considering though.
The Splitter is quite robust, but it does get scraped on the underside. I ordered a new one 'just in case', as they are only £60.
Otherwise, it's everything you could want in a 911 - brilliant on the road and brilliant on the track, yet as reliable and easy to live with as a VW Golf. Eat your heart out F.599 owners
Interesting on the oil change point. I know Porsche machining of the engine is likely to be very good but you must still get small metal particles off a new engine. I think its a good idea to do an oil change at around 1000 miles on any new car.
As for the tyres that could get rather expensive. I also seriously doubt whether an average driver using the car for fast road use would notice much difference using Yokohama AO48's or Toyo R888's which will be significantly cheaper.
£60 quid for the splitter is a bargain. The bit of plastic on the front of my Exige is about £180!
As for the tyres that could get rather expensive. I also seriously doubt whether an average driver using the car for fast road use would notice much difference using Yokohama AO48's or Toyo R888's which will be significantly cheaper.
£60 quid for the splitter is a bargain. The bit of plastic on the front of my Exige is about £180!
Thanks for the update and additional info, good to hear everything is A1 after 1500 miles.
Will be interested to hear if you notice much difference with the new 'road' set up.
I guess with the wider tyres and less tread, there is actually more rubber to wear on these tyres compared to normal ones ?? Of course the compound also comes into the equation.
Cheers
Will be interested to hear if you notice much difference with the new 'road' set up.
I guess with the wider tyres and less tread, there is actually more rubber to wear on these tyres compared to normal ones ?? Of course the compound also comes into the equation.
Cheers
glenn mcmenamin said:
Thanks for the info Geneve,
I thought the car would come with a 'road' set up in the 1st place ??? and that
you would have to get a 'track' set up done, only by a specialist ????
G.
I thought the car would come with a 'road' set up in the 1st place ??? and that
you would have to get a 'track' set up done, only by a specialist ????
G.
When I collected the car, my OPC (who are excellent) said that there was only one default set up and it was described as 'Track'. A couple of other owners have described it as 'Race'. However, they now tell me that they have been advised that there is a 'Road' setting, which is a touch more compliant at the rear. It doesn't affect ride heights.
For anyone intending serious track use, it might be best to familiarise yourself with the car in the 'Track/Race' set up, then get JZM or Parr to advise on other options.
Geneve said:
glenn mcmenamin said:
Thanks for the info Geneve,
I thought the car would come with a 'road' set up in the 1st place ??? and that
you would have to get a 'track' set up done, only by a specialist ????
G.
I thought the car would come with a 'road' set up in the 1st place ??? and that
you would have to get a 'track' set up done, only by a specialist ????
G.
When I collected the car, my OPC (who are excellent) said that there was only one default set up and it was described as 'Track'. A couple of other owners have described it as 'Race'. However, they now tell me that they have been advised that there is a 'Road' setting, which is a touch more compliant at the rear. It doesn't affect ride heights.
For anyone intending serious track use, it might be best to familiarise yourself with the car in the 'Track/Race' set up, then get JZM or Parr to advise on other options.
I am getting quite anctious about the setting for my RS when i get it in a few weeks....
I hear that the RS has a slightly more agressive set up than the GT3, but i want a full track
set up asap.
Thing is, nobdy has any settings to compare against yet, so i have the feeling i am going to
be a bit of a Guinepig
G.
I would not ask an OPC for a track set up. They have no track experience at all. As already has been posted, I'd take the car to Parr or JZM and get it done properly. I don't know how much - if any development has been done on the chasis of the 997. I think that I'm due to do some for Parr early next year but i'm not sure when yet. 996RS track set ups will probably be a good defult but if you really want to do it properly, you need to throw away the active dampers and start again.
Steve R
Steve R
Davey S2 said:
Interesting on the oil change point. I know Porsche machining of the engine is likely to be very good but you must still get small metal particles off a new engine. I think its a good idea to do an oil change at around 1000 miles on any new car.
As for the tyres that could get rather expensive. I also seriously doubt whether an average driver using the car for fast road use would notice much difference using Yokohama AO48's or Toyo R888's which will be significantly cheaper.
£60 quid for the splitter is a bargain. The bit of plastic on the front of my Exige is about £180!
As for the tyres that could get rather expensive. I also seriously doubt whether an average driver using the car for fast road use would notice much difference using Yokohama AO48's or Toyo R888's which will be significantly cheaper.
£60 quid for the splitter is a bargain. The bit of plastic on the front of my Exige is about £180!
All the engines at Porsche are bench run for the equivalent of several hundred miles before they are installed into the cars. They are run to red line to ensure they deliver the advertised power. The oil used is changed before delivery to the customer so effectively you get a run-in engine without any 'small metal partcles' from machining being present.
steve rance said:
I would not ask an OPC for a track set up. They have no track experience at all. As already has been posted, I'd take the car to Parr or JZM and get it done properly. I don't know how much - if any development has been done on the chasis of the 997. I think that I'm due to do some for Parr early next year but i'm not sure when yet. 996RS track set ups will probably be a good defult but if you really want to do it properly, you need to throw away the active dampers and start again.
Steve R
Steve R
Surely if you bin the main innovation on the new car, you may as well save 35k and have the previous model!
Thanks for the info on the suspension set up Mike/Geneve, i will interested to see if it feels different to the standard factory set-up, what made you change it?
If it is better for road I may be able to request it from factory like that, so would appreciate your feedback.
Cheers
Grant
If it is better for road I may be able to request it from factory like that, so would appreciate your feedback.
Cheers
Grant
DanH said:
steve rance said:
I would not ask an OPC for a track set up. They have no track experience at all. As already has been posted, I'd take the car to Parr or JZM and get it done properly. I don't know how much - if any development has been done on the chasis of the 997. I think that I'm due to do some for Parr early next year but i'm not sure when yet. 996RS track set ups will probably be a good defult but if you really want to do it properly, you need to throw away the active dampers and start again.
Steve R
Steve R
Surely if you bin the main innovation on the new car, you may as well save 35k and have the previous model!
You keep telling yourself that Dan.
I'll have my first drive of the 997 GT3 on Monday hopefully, I'll let you guys know how it goes.
glenn mcmenamin said:
I am getting quite anctious about the setting for my RS when i get it in a few weeks....
Glenn - Do you have any information about exhaust noise on the 997 GT3 RS? I have one on order, but it won't be ready for collection until March. I've heard that it is likely to exceed the noise limits at every UK circuit except possibly Silverstone - although my OPC has suggested that it will produce 102db at 6300 revs static test at 0.5mtr and therefore be OK. Do you plan to use yours at UK track days and if so would you fancy taking it to somewhere like Goodwood for a noise check?
Just seen this thread about a brand new 997GT3RS in Dubai - you can see from the pics it is running Pirelli's.
www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=997&Number=298278&page=0&fpart=all
Looks like there may be a choice sooner than we thought. Cup tyres are are bloody scary for me in this weather
www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=997&Number=298278&page=0&fpart=all
Looks like there may be a choice sooner than we thought. Cup tyres are are bloody scary for me in this weather
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