Alloy wheel seized onto hub.

[Flat in Fifth]

Wanting to get wheels off and clean up plus give application of copper anti sieze compound to mating surfaces before salt and grot siezes the alloy wheels onto the hubs.

Too late! Damn Damn Damn.

Done three no problem ~10 minutes a corner, but can I hell as like get the last one off the hub.

Have tried the usual tricks, like undoing the nuts a bit and using weight of vehicle to try and crack the bond.

Tried belting it from inside with rubber mallet while turning wheel, that usually gets it free in one hit.

Tried easing penetrating fluid down into the area where likely to be seized.

Any other suggestions other than taking it to dealer? Glad I'm doing this now and not in the dark with a puncture.

Curses self for being an idle sod and not fixing earlier in year.

FiF

[Ffirg 005]

Can you get a jaw puller onto it? If so wind up some tension on it and then try your rubber mallet, or a heavier hammer with a block of wood inbetween to get a sharper impact.

[steve_d]

Flat in Fifth said:

.....Have tried the usual tricks, like undoing the nuts a bit and using weight of vehicle to try and crack the bond.

Did that include taking it for a ride round the block.
If unhappy with that, then a local car park where you can throw left and right circles to free it. The nuts can be tightened again for the journey home.

I would be happier with this method than using pullers and mallets as the stresses being applied are no different from road use until it actually comes free. You will know when it frees and can stop immediately.

Steve

[lotisi]

When you do get it off don't use copper slip as copper and aluminium don't mix, the copper will eat the ally.

[Flat in Fifth]

OK fixed now thanks for the above answers.

The take it round the block was the money answer, didn't even get to the end of the road.

Even rocking it in fwd and reverse with handbrake full on didn't get anywhere.

Thanks for tip about copper slip, never thought about that.

[combemarshal]

Nice prompt reply from me!
Jack up the car, remove the nut, put say left lock on, wedge something between the tyre/wheel and the chasis, then turn the wheel the other way, even easier with PAS!

[lotisi]

Wurth do a nice product which is basically alluminium slip withh a higher melting point than copper slip and the obvious advantage of having no copper in it.

[Flat in Fifth]

lotisi said:

Wurth do a nice product which is basically alluminium slip withh a higher melting point than copper slip and the obvious advantage of having no copper in it.

Is this what you mean which is what I actually ended up using once brain in gear.

[lotisi]

It's not what I had in mind but I'm sure that'll be fine. I have looked on the net for the product I mentioned but can't see it anywhere and the Wurth website is dire.

[Mr2Mike]

I have seen dozens of alloys that have had copper slip applied with no visible signs of corrosion. In fact I just sold my poor old MR2 Turbo that has been sitting outside for best part of 18 months. I took the wheels off to clean up the discs and free of the calipers and the mounting flange of the alloys that mate with the hubs was in pristine condition thanks to the copper slip I applied when I got the car some 5 years ago. Wiping the grease off revealed a perfectly shiny non-pitted alloy surface,

[lotisi]

I guess 99% of the time you wouldn't have a problem especially as that area gets hot and dries out. However, it doesn't make it good practise though.

[mave]

Hmm, I'd rather have copperslip between steel and aluminium, than steel next to aluminium