First track car
Discussion
Any thoughts on the best choice to start with as a vehicle that will primarily be used on the track by someone (me) with no previous track experience (except Ron Haslam bike days at Donnington)and no obvious sign of any natural ability. Assume
ought to be a porker
10 to 15 track days a year
will start with instruction
limited mechanical aptitude
strong sense of self preservation
within reason, budget probably available for the right car
ought to be a porker
10 to 15 track days a year
will start with instruction
limited mechanical aptitude
strong sense of self preservation
within reason, budget probably available for the right car
a porsche? unless you get a GT3 and have bags of dosh there are much better, lighter and well balanced cars out there.
fwd or rwd or 4wd? the 968 club sport is a very good track car and has good balance and grip over a 911.
a porker 911 is all wrong in the balance dept for track work unless you get an RS or GT3 which is track designed.
fwd or rwd or 4wd? the 968 club sport is a very good track car and has good balance and grip over a 911.
a porker 911 is all wrong in the balance dept for track work unless you get an RS or GT3 which is track designed.
Edited by DasChin on Thursday 9th November 07:45
Howzabouts an ex-racer 968CS or even a 924 Lodge Sports? Both are obviously not legal for the roads, however all the vehicles that I have seen up for sale do appear to come with trailers, mountains of spares and even some tyres!
PdS Bellevue in Newcastle have a converted 944 Turbo SE (250BHP standard) converted with roll cage and stiff suspension. Looks good!
PdS Bellevue in Newcastle have a converted 944 Turbo SE (250BHP standard) converted with roll cage and stiff suspension. Looks good!
Would agree that a 968CS is a great value trackday Porsche. Absolutely incredible balance. Would further agree the GT3 or RS suggestion, but then you are into a whole load more money, both up front and in running costs. I started with a 968 CS and now drive a GT3 they are both fantastic cars, it's just that the front engined car could do with another 100bhp.
DasChin said:
a porsche? unless you get a GT3 and have bags of dosh there are much better, lighter and well balanced cars out there.
there are plenty of other track focused porsches, even you mention 968 below.
there are faster, lighter, cheaper cars but there are VERY few cars that are as fast, that are as fun to drive fast or that can take the punishment like a porsche, that you can then drive home in. there's a reason half the cars at the average goldtrack day are 911's
DasChin said:
fwd or rwd or 4wd? the 968 club sport is a very good track car and has good balance and grip over a 911.
fwd porsche? hmmm. 968cs better balance and grip over 911? hmmm. different balance maybe
DasChin said:
a porker 911 is all wrong in the balance dept for track work unless you get an RS or GT3 which is track designed.
you seem a bit fixated by "balance". have you driven one? truth is there are loads of porsches that will be epic fun to get into trackdays with from a £2.5k 924, through 5k 944, 15k 968csmo30, 35k 964rs, 45k 993rs, 50k gt3, 60k gt3rs, 120k 993gt2 and loads of ex race cars in between for peanuts.
lowndes said:
Any thoughts on the best choice to start with as a vehicle that will primarily be used on the track by someone (me) with no previous track experience (except Ron Haslam bike days at Donnington)and no obvious sign of any natural ability. Assume
ought to be a porker
10 to 15 track days a year
will start with instruction
limited mechanical aptitude
strong sense of self preservation
within reason, budget probably available for the right car
ought to be a porker
10 to 15 track days a year
will start with instruction
limited mechanical aptitude
strong sense of self preservation
within reason, budget probably available for the right car
Look no further !
www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/100964.htm
Jamie
verysideways said:
No previous track experience, straight into a track prep'd 964? Rather you than me...
If you care to take a look at the cars currently and previously owned in Lowndes' profile, I think you'll agree that a well set-up, modestly powered, over braked, low-ish value, lightweight Porker with huge grip and full safety kit, ought not to be too far wide of the mark ????????
lowndes said:
Any thoughts on the best choice to start with as a vehicle that will primarily be used on the track by someone (me) with no previous track experience (except Ron Haslam bike days at Donnington)and no obvious sign of any natural ability. Assume
ought to be a porker
10 to 15 track days a year
will start with instruction
limited mechanical aptitude
strong sense of self preservation
within reason, budget probably available for the right car
ought to be a porker
10 to 15 track days a year
will start with instruction
limited mechanical aptitude
strong sense of self preservation
within reason, budget probably available for the right car
BMW M3GT. Stupid value for money.
Steve R
Jamie Summers said:
verysideways said:
No previous track experience, straight into a track prep'd 964? Rather you than me...
If you care to take a look at the cars currently and previously owned in Lowndes' profile, I think you'll agree that a well set-up, modestly powered, over braked, low-ish value, lightweight Porker with huge grip and full safety kit, ought not to be too far wide of the mark ????????
This one's better: www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/112101.htm I've driven this car on the road; its stupendous.
SS7
This is my car, i bought it for the exact same reason your looking to buy one. Its an amzing car but im just not using it. Its now at my parents as i have no room for it in London. I have only managed 2 track days since owning it so it really should go. I dont think im looking for crazy money either for a cs.
www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/111963.htm
www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/111963.htm
I bought a 944 Turbo for the a combination of road and (light) track use. Did my first track day in it at silverstone last week and thought that it was awesome - good performance and great balance; an ideal trackcar for starters with potential to upgrade the suspension and engine later (so I am told).
The 968cs is an ideal car to learn what tracking a car is all about. What's the sense in throwing a 40 + grand motor around a tack when your just starting ? 968 is perfect and I know a great one for sale. Don't worry, its not mine (anymore) but I did own this car for 2 years and it cost me nothing to run. I now own a 993. I did 2 track days at Silverstone and it was simply superb.
All I can say is that it's an honest car that I took care of.
www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/96107.htm
All I can say is that it's an honest car that I took care of.
www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/96107.htm
Thanks for the forum advice guys. It was good to get such genuine and constructive feedback. Thanks also to those in the market that I spoke to directly who were incredibly generous and free with their advice. You probably know who you are, if not sure check my current car profile.
In the end it came down to a late Mk I GT3 or 964RS and I have decided on the 964RS.
Reasons? Some of it is logical and some just gut feel.
Although both are designed for the job, the 964RS is perhaps a bit purer and carries less of the baggage of a modern car and a combination of 260bhp and 1230kg will be enough to keep me plenty interested for a while.
The limited numbers of RHD means it will probably be LHD but you could say that opens the market up. And I realise that I will have to pay a bit extra to get the right one but that's part of the fun, so the hunt is on...
In the end it came down to a late Mk I GT3 or 964RS and I have decided on the 964RS.
Reasons? Some of it is logical and some just gut feel.
Although both are designed for the job, the 964RS is perhaps a bit purer and carries less of the baggage of a modern car and a combination of 260bhp and 1230kg will be enough to keep me plenty interested for a while.
The limited numbers of RHD means it will probably be LHD but you could say that opens the market up. And I realise that I will have to pay a bit extra to get the right one but that's part of the fun, so the hunt is on...
If you do buy a 964RS please be careful, they are only forgiving in confident hands so I suggest that you book a few airfield days with an instructor.
If you do want a faster car that is forgiving, my partner Marc is selling our full sorted 420hp supercharged 968CS for around £25k and this is as fast as a GT3mk2.
If you do want a faster car that is forgiving, my partner Marc is selling our full sorted 420hp supercharged 968CS for around £25k and this is as fast as a GT3mk2.
lowndes said:
The limited numbers of RHD means it will probably be LHD but you could say that opens the market up.
Not a lot it doesn't...but good luck with the hunt though...brilliant car.
Definately speak to Paul McLean at GT Classics and soon your driveway may also look like this...
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